zan wrote:This ethnically cleansed and displaced Turkish Cypriot whose country is still under your embargoes bids you a good night!!!!
Goodnight wimp
phoenix wrote:zan wrote:phoenix wrote:Ok Zan, sobering video, fast forwaded.
Zan may I appeal to your rationality and get you to agree we BOTH had vile experiences no Human should have to endure?
How did it degenerate further, to dividing a whole country and ethnically cleansing 200, 000 people from their homes and meanwhile killing thousands?
Because 63 and then 67 wasn't enough for you so you tried again in 74. Three attempts by you to clean us off the island. The third was in 1974 when we finally stopped you....We the ethnically cleansed bit back one final time and we have had peace ever since.
Whhhaaaaaattt did the GCs do in '74????
Because my recollection was that the GCs were staving off an attempted coup whilst the TCs were being rounded up by the opportunistic Turks to colonise part of Cyprus for Turkey.
Bananiot wrote:The Akritas plan was not an alleged plan, GR. It was real and you should know this and not need Makarios Droushiotis or anyone else to tell you. In 1963 we went asking for troubles and the best we can do now is to accept and learn from our mistakes if ever we want to achieve something meaningful and right for our country which we all claim to care about.
DT. wrote:Bananiot wrote:The Akritas plan was not an alleged plan, GR. It was real and you should know this and not need Makarios Droushiotis or anyone else to tell you. In 1963 we went asking for troubles and the best we can do now is to accept and learn from our mistakes if ever we want to achieve something meaningful and right for our country which we all claim to care about.
accepting and learning from our mistakes is correct Bananiot...would you consider the ongoing mistakes/injustices created by the other side as accepted and learnt though?
zan wrote:DT. wrote:Bananiot wrote:The Akritas plan was not an alleged plan, GR. It was real and you should know this and not need Makarios Droushiotis or anyone else to tell you. In 1963 we went asking for troubles and the best we can do now is to accept and learn from our mistakes if ever we want to achieve something meaningful and right for our country which we all claim to care about.
accepting and learning from our mistakes is correct Bananiot...would you consider the ongoing mistakes/injustices created by the other side as accepted and learnt though?
What I don't accept is your carefully chosen words of "Ongoing" and Created in the way you use them....The problem was created by the Akritas Plan with intent...And the Isolations and Embargoes are the ones ongoing...
From the point of the overall comment....We voted YES to the Annan Plan...Moving forward was our aim...What happened to you guys...What are your aims.
DT. wrote:zan wrote:DT. wrote:Bananiot wrote:The Akritas plan was not an alleged plan, GR. It was real and you should know this and not need Makarios Droushiotis or anyone else to tell you. In 1963 we went asking for troubles and the best we can do now is to accept and learn from our mistakes if ever we want to achieve something meaningful and right for our country which we all claim to care about.
accepting and learning from our mistakes is correct Bananiot...would you consider the ongoing mistakes/injustices created by the other side as accepted and learnt though?
What I don't accept is your carefully chosen words of "Ongoing" and Created in the way you use them....The problem was created by the Akritas Plan with intent...And the Isolations and Embargoes are the ones ongoing...
From the point of the overall comment....We voted YES to the Annan Plan...Moving forward was our aim...What happened to you guys...What are your aims.
give me a plan that gives me everything i want and i'll vote yes like you did.
zan wrote:DT. wrote:zan wrote:DT. wrote:Bananiot wrote:The Akritas plan was not an alleged plan, GR. It was real and you should know this and not need Makarios Droushiotis or anyone else to tell you. In 1963 we went asking for troubles and the best we can do now is to accept and learn from our mistakes if ever we want to achieve something meaningful and right for our country which we all claim to care about.
accepting and learning from our mistakes is correct Bananiot...would you consider the ongoing mistakes/injustices created by the other side as accepted and learnt though?
What I don't accept is your carefully chosen words of "Ongoing" and Created in the way you use them....The problem was created by the Akritas Plan with intent...And the Isolations and Embargoes are the ones ongoing...
From the point of the overall comment....We voted YES to the Annan Plan...Moving forward was our aim...What happened to you guys...What are your aims.
give me a plan that gives me everything i want and i'll vote yes like you did.
Bullshit again...There was a strong following of Denktas that did not want the Annan Plan either and thought it gave too much away and saw the dangers of the plan for the TCs. The one man that was there and saw the plan develop. De Soto only saw intransigence from Tpap once Denktas was removed from the process. Turkey agreed to give up so much for it's EU accessions. Tpap wants all or nothing and thinks he can get all by other means. It will not work.
DT. wrote:zan wrote:DT. wrote:zan wrote:DT. wrote:Bananiot wrote:The Akritas plan was not an alleged plan, GR. It was real and you should know this and not need Makarios Droushiotis or anyone else to tell you. In 1963 we went asking for troubles and the best we can do now is to accept and learn from our mistakes if ever we want to achieve something meaningful and right for our country which we all claim to care about.
accepting and learning from our mistakes is correct Bananiot...would you consider the ongoing mistakes/injustices created by the other side as accepted and learnt though?
What I don't accept is your carefully chosen words of "Ongoing" and Created in the way you use them....The problem was created by the Akritas Plan with intent...And the Isolations and Embargoes are the ones ongoing...
From the point of the overall comment....We voted YES to the Annan Plan...Moving forward was our aim...What happened to you guys...What are your aims.
give me a plan that gives me everything i want and i'll vote yes like you did.
Bullshit again...There was a strong following of Denktas that did not want the Annan Plan either and thought it gave too much away and saw the dangers of the plan for the TCs. The one man that was there and saw the plan develop. De Soto only saw intransigence from Tpap once Denktas was removed from the process. Turkey agreed to give up so much for it's EU accessions. Tpap wants all or nothing and thinks he can get all by other means. It will not work.
WHat exactly where these points in which "you gave too much away?"
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