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Postby observer » Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:30 pm

For Piratis.

The lie was "Halil, you started the war to take 1/3rd of our country".

Neither the TC people or the Turkish government started the events of 1974.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:36 pm

observer, Turkey started the war between Cyprus and Turkey by invading Cyprus and illegally occupying 1/3rd of our island.

Sure we had other events in 1974, but not a war between Cyprus and Turkey. May I also remind you that Turkey had many coups, and it is until today ruled by the army. Maybe that should be a reason for another country to invade and occupy Turkey?

Stop trying to find lame excuses please. The invasion and occupation of Cyprus are inexcusable and illegal, and the war that Turkey started by invading our country can end only with the end of their illegal occupation.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:23 pm

Piratis wrote:observer, Turkey started the war between Cyprus and Turkey by invading Cyprus and illegally occupying 1/3rd of our island.

Sure we had other events in 1974, but not a war between Cyprus and Turkey. May I also remind you that Turkey had many coups, and it is until today ruled by the army. Maybe that should be a reason for another country to invade and occupy Turkey?

Stop trying to find lame excuses please. The invasion and occupation of Cyprus are inexcusable and illegal, and the war that Turkey started by invading our country can end only with the end of their illegal occupation.


We the TCs invited Turkey here to save our lives from GCs demanding union with Greece and the dire position we were forced into over 11 years, no amount of negotiations were going to sort things out as the GCs had us just where they wanted us in the palm of their hands, isolated and desolate, unable to make ourselves heard to the outside world.
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Postby phoenix » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:31 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:observer, Turkey started the war between Cyprus and Turkey by invading Cyprus and illegally occupying 1/3rd of our island.

Sure we had other events in 1974, but not a war between Cyprus and Turkey. May I also remind you that Turkey had many coups, and it is until today ruled by the army. Maybe that should be a reason for another country to invade and occupy Turkey?

Stop trying to find lame excuses please. The invasion and occupation of Cyprus are inexcusable and illegal, and the war that Turkey started by invading our country can end only with the end of their illegal occupation.


We the TCs invited Turkey here to save our lives from GCs demanding union with Greece and the dire position we were forced into over 11 years, no amount of negotiations were going to sort things out as the GCs had us just where they wanted us in the palm of their hands, isolated and desolate, unable to make ourselves heard to the outside world.


So you are now saying Turkey's real enemy is Greece.

Where Turkey too frightened to attack Greece DIRECTLY then and picked on Cyprus because it is smaller?

. . . . proves my point!

Turkey are the Bullies of the World.

It's convenient for them the TCs were easily fooled. :roll:
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How about if....

Postby cymart » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:35 pm

The Greek-Cypriots accept the Annan Plan,but provided it is guranteed by the E.U. and U.N. and Turkey immediately starts withdrawing its army from the areas which will be ceded to the Greek-Cypriots with either the British Forces or the U.N. supervising things while the people now living there make arrangements to move etc.
Any objections and WHY????
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:39 pm

phoenix wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:observer, Turkey started the war between Cyprus and Turkey by invading Cyprus and illegally occupying 1/3rd of our island.

Sure we had other events in 1974, but not a war between Cyprus and Turkey. May I also remind you that Turkey had many coups, and it is until today ruled by the army. Maybe that should be a reason for another country to invade and occupy Turkey?

Stop trying to find lame excuses please. The invasion and occupation of Cyprus are inexcusable and illegal, and the war that Turkey started by invading our country can end only with the end of their illegal occupation.


We the TCs invited Turkey here to save our lives from GCs demanding union with Greece and the dire position we were forced into over 11 years, no amount of negotiations were going to sort things out as the GCs had us just where they wanted us in the palm of their hands, isolated and desolate, unable to make ourselves heard to the outside world.


So you are now saying Turkey's real enemy is Greece.

Where Turkey too frightened to attack Greece DIRECTLY then and picked on Cyprus because it is smaller?

. . . . proves my point!

Turkey are the Bullies of the World.

It's convenient for them the TCs were easily fooled. :roll:


Turkey will always be your boggie man you were raised that way so anything I say does not make a bit of difference, its something you have to live with not me.

Turkey came to our aid, thank god they did...the rest is history.
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Postby phoenix » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:46 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:observer, Turkey started the war between Cyprus and Turkey by invading Cyprus and illegally occupying 1/3rd of our island.

Sure we had other events in 1974, but not a war between Cyprus and Turkey. May I also remind you that Turkey had many coups, and it is until today ruled by the army. Maybe that should be a reason for another country to invade and occupy Turkey?

Stop trying to find lame excuses please. The invasion and occupation of Cyprus are inexcusable and illegal, and the war that Turkey started by invading our country can end only with the end of their illegal occupation.


We the TCs invited Turkey here to save our lives from GCs demanding union with Greece and the dire position we were forced into over 11 years, no amount of negotiations were going to sort things out as the GCs had us just where they wanted us in the palm of their hands, isolated and desolate, unable to make ourselves heard to the outside world.


So you are now saying Turkey's real enemy is Greece.

Where Turkey too frightened to attack Greece DIRECTLY then and picked on Cyprus because it is smaller?

. . . . proves my point!

Turkey are the Bullies of the World.

It's convenient for them the TCs were easily fooled. :roll:


Turkey will always be your boggie man you were raised that way so anything I say does not make a bit of difference, its something you have to live with not me.

Turkey came to our aid, thank god they did...the rest is history.


You are blind VP. Turkey were TOO afraid to fight Greece on her OWN territory and they fooled you into letting them invade Cyprus. Turkey is abusing the TCs and they are loving it. :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:02 pm

phoenix wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:observer, Turkey started the war between Cyprus and Turkey by invading Cyprus and illegally occupying 1/3rd of our island.

Sure we had other events in 1974, but not a war between Cyprus and Turkey. May I also remind you that Turkey had many coups, and it is until today ruled by the army. Maybe that should be a reason for another country to invade and occupy Turkey?

Stop trying to find lame excuses please. The invasion and occupation of Cyprus are inexcusable and illegal, and the war that Turkey started by invading our country can end only with the end of their illegal occupation.


We the TCs invited Turkey here to save our lives from GCs demanding union with Greece and the dire position we were forced into over 11 years, no amount of negotiations were going to sort things out as the GCs had us just where they wanted us in the palm of their hands, isolated and desolate, unable to make ourselves heard to the outside world.


So you are now saying Turkey's real enemy is Greece.

Where Turkey too frightened to attack Greece DIRECTLY then and picked on Cyprus because it is smaller?

. . . . proves my point!

Turkey are the Bullies of the World.

It's convenient for them the TCs were easily fooled. :roll:


Turkey will always be your boggie man you were raised that way so anything I say does not make a bit of difference, its something you have to live with not me.

Turkey came to our aid, thank god they did...the rest is history.


You are blind VP. Turkey were TOO afraid to fight Greece on her OWN territory and they fooled you into letting them invade Cyprus. Turkey is abusing the TCs and they are loving it. :roll:


Thank god Turkey acted when she did, we owe her our lives. Maybe you should concentrate more on why the GC did not support the ideology we are all Cypriots with equal rights when they had the chance.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:09 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:observer, Turkey started the war between Cyprus and Turkey by invading Cyprus and illegally occupying 1/3rd of our island.

Sure we had other events in 1974, but not a war between Cyprus and Turkey. May I also remind you that Turkey had many coups, and it is until today ruled by the army. Maybe that should be a reason for another country to invade and occupy Turkey?

Stop trying to find lame excuses please. The invasion and occupation of Cyprus are inexcusable and illegal, and the war that Turkey started by invading our country can end only with the end of their illegal occupation.


We the TCs invited Turkey here to save our lives from GCs demanding union with Greece and the dire position we were forced into over 11 years, no amount of negotiations were going to sort things out as the GCs had us just where they wanted us in the palm of their hands, isolated and desolate, unable to make ourselves heard to the outside world.


Thats the same excuse that Hitler gave to invade Czechoslovakia, to supposedly protect the German minority there.
As they say, great fascists think alike, right VP?

The truth is that in 1974, 1) GCs were not demanding enosis with Greece, it was a coup that went against our elected President, and 2) the TCs were not killed as you claim. I have challenged you several times to show me evidence that TCs were harmed by GCs in 1974 before the Turkish invasion had started but you have never been able to back up your erroneous claims. Any TCs that were killed in 1974 were only killed during the war that Turkey (and the TCs who invited them, as you said) started against Cyprus on the 20th of July of 1974, and where many thousands of Greek Cypriots where killed as opposed to a couple of 100s of TCs.

So spare us from your lies and propaganda. The Turkish occupation has always been illegal and inexcusable and no Hitler like excuses can change this.
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Re: How about if....

Postby Piratis » Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:14 pm

cymart wrote:The Greek-Cypriots accept the Annan Plan,but provided it is guranteed by the E.U. and U.N. and Turkey immediately starts withdrawing its army from the areas which will be ceded to the Greek-Cypriots with either the British Forces or the U.N. supervising things while the people now living there make arrangements to move etc.
Any objections and WHY????


Didn't I explain you why about a billion times? Short answer: Annan plan was a partition plan that would officially divide our island and make us second category people via its undemocratic and racist parameters against us.

Make a search in the forum and you will find tons of detailed info.
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