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United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan: A unique and historic chance to resolve the Cyprus problem has been missed.

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US State Department Spokesman Richard Boucher: We are disappointed that a majority of Greek Cypriots voted against the settlement plan. Failure of the referendum in the Greek Cypriot community is a setback to the hopes of those on the island who voted for the settlement and to the international community.

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European Commissioner for Enlargement Günter Verheugen: I feel cheated by the Greek Cypriot government... There is a shadow now over the accession of Cyprus. What we will seriously consider now is finding a way to end the economic isolation of the Turkish Cypriots.

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UN Special Envoy Álvaro de Soto: This evening I'm biting my tongue.

[Piratis]

Piratis wrote:

Halil, you started the war to take 1/3rd of our country. This war will end with you giving back what you stole, not with us signing it away to you. Get it? What you want is not "peace" what you want is our capitulation to what you enforced illegally on our country. It will never happen.

Opinion is one thing, but lies are another. Even Makarios said that 1974 was an invasion by the Greek government, and I never heard anyone call Makarios pro-Turkish

And what is the lie?

Did anybody excuse the coup? Not only it was not excused but those Greek Junta generals were jailed. Thats what should have happened to Ecevit and those other Turkish criminals.

So what exactly excuses the Turkish invasion and occupation of Cyprus? Absolutely nothing. Turkey started a war against us and this war will end with Turkey withdrawing from our island and allowing legality to return. Don't expect from us to sign any capitulation agreement.

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United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan: A unique and historic chance to resolve the Cyprus problem has been missed.

"... had he [Annan] been more closely involved in the details, [he] would not have wished his name to be historically associated with such departures from international law and human rights standards."
Claire Palley, Constitutional Law adviser to Cypriot governments since 1980, in 'An International Relations Debacle', 2005

[zan]

United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan: A unique and historic chance to resolve the Cyprus problem has been missed.

"... had he [Annan] been more closely involved in the details, [he] would not have wished his name to be historically associated with such departures from international law and human rights standards."
Claire Palley, Constitutional Law adviser to Cypriot governments since 1980, in 'An International Relations Debacle', 2005

Speech by

Claire Palley

I found Mr. Akinci’s open-mindedness about mechanisms to achieve transition to a future Cyprus settlement and to a new state of affairs constructive and hopeful. Although in July 1965 the Government of the Republic (in response to an expressed desire of the Turkish Cypriot House Members to return only to participate in debates on the Electoral Law) declined to contribute to restoration of the situation prior to December 1963. Acting President Clerides in 1974 offered full return to the 1960 Constitution. So repeatedly, in the late seventies and early eighties, did President Kyprianou. But, naturally, with Turkey’s Army sitting in northern Cyprus, Turkish Cypriots only wanted “independence”. Serious re-thinking now, on both sides, about making use of the 1960 Constitution (still operative except in its intercommunal aspects) could result in arrangements going further than he thinks and could lead rapidly to a settlement. Most elements of Mr. Akinci’s recent proposal (but what expert would not suggest some modifications!) could be used to constitute a vehicle for transition and negotiation of a new Constitution and to enabling a move to a new state of affairs. There could be a House of Representatives acting also as a constituent Assembly prior to referenda. All is possible provided that Cypriots think of reasons to do things, not of reasons not to do them, and do not engage in triumphalism and demands for eating words. I hope that the press, which has the ability to kill innovative proposals stone dead – does not insist on dotting and crossing all the i’s and t’s before even a word has been written. Although publicity and information is an important aspect of human rights and democratic procedures, it can do harm, bringing bitter winds, blowing out fluttering candles of hope, just lit. Mr. Akinci’s ideas demand exploration.

http://www.rcenter.intercol.edu/2005/ar ... eech04.htm

[joe]

Is anybody knows what Annan plan was providing for air and sea territory control?

The plan allowed Turkey to question signed legal agreements like the Cypriot continental shelf. Agreements like the one that has been made between Cyprus and Egypt.

Questioning ones continental shelf. Does that sound familiar to you in any way? The Aegean perhaps.....

Under the plan, the Montreux Treaty signed by Cyprus was nullified. The Brits were given the right to claim as well as define mineral rights and territorial waters near their bases in the South. A one sided plan. I said NO to it.

[Kikapu]

Article 3 Cypriot citizenship upon entry into force of the Foundation Agreement
1. Upon entry into force of the Foundation Agreement, the following persons shall be considered citizens of Cyprus:
a. Any person who held Cypriot citizenship in 1960 and his or her descendants;
b. Any person who enjoyed permanent residence in Cyprus for at least seven years before reaching the age of 18 and for at least one year during the last five years;
c. Any person who is married to a Cypriot citizen and has enjoyed permanent residence for at least two years in Cyprus; and
d. Minor children of the persons in the above categories who enjoy permanent residence in Cyprus.
2. In addition to the above, persons whose names figure on a list handed over to the Secretary-General of the United Nations by each party to the Comprehensive Settlement by 10 March 2003 shall be citizens of Cyprus. Each side’s list may number no more than 33,000 persons, inclusive of spouses and children, unless there are specific reasons preventing such spouses and children from being considered citizens of Cyprus. Applicants shall be included on the list based on the length of their residence in Cyprus.

Halil, does that not mean then, that every settler would have gained automatic Cypriot citizenship and become an EU member, and those who do not, will be rewarded with cash to go back to their country of origin.

Not a bad deal if you can get it I say, specially if you are in Cyprus as a settler from Turkey as well as other foreign Nationals.

[joe]

Article 3 Cypriot citizenship upon entry into force of the Foundation Agreement
1. Upon entry into force of the Foundation Agreement, the following persons shall be considered citizens of Cyprus:
a. Any person who held Cypriot citizenship in 1960 and his or her descendants;
b. Any person who enjoyed permanent residence in Cyprus for at least seven years before reaching the age of 18 and for at least one year during the last five years;
c. Any person who is married to a Cypriot citizen and has enjoyed permanent residence for at least two years in Cyprus; and
d. Minor children of the persons in the above categories who enjoy permanent residence in Cyprus.
2. In addition to the above, persons whose names figure on a list handed over to the Secretary-General of the United Nations by each party to the Comprehensive Settlement by 10 March 2003 shall be citizens of Cyprus. Each side’s list may number no more than 33,000 persons, inclusive of spouses and children, unless there are specific reasons preventing such spouses and children from being considered citizens of Cyprus. Applicants shall be included on the list based on the length of their residence in Cyprus.

Halil, does that not mean then, that every settler would have gained automatic Cypriot citizenship and become an EU member, and those who do not, will be rewarded with cash to go back to their country of origin.

Not a bad deal if you can get it I say, specially if you are in Cyprus as a settler from Turkey as well as other foreign Nationals.

Nearly all settlers would have been granted citizenship or something like a right to residence.

When you say rewarded with cash, that’s coming out of my pocket and every other Cypriots' pocket. In no way will i reward settlers that came to change the demography of our people. What about future Turkish immigration, hmm, what kind of limited role can the central government play? The plan made the central government so weak, it’s pathetic.

Your right. It's a great deal if your a settler.