]zan wrote:boomerang wrote:zan wrote:boomerang wrote:CopperLine wrote:Denizaksulu
You say thathowever in actual fact there is a wealth of material published on the history of the region. I could point to vast amounts of careful scholarly work which has used archival, archaeological, oral history, survey and statistical material and is pretty reliable. Of course interpretations of this material vary, sometimes widely.So little has been written about this period of Middle-Eastern history, getting reliable sources is a hard task.
Unfortunately most people either don't bother reading or don't have access to serious scholarly work and prefer to turn to popular and populist media such as Wikipedia. What really bothers me is the ease with which people turn to Wikipedia as if this was a definitive and reliable source. It isn't - it is the first resort of the lazy and opinionated in search of the lazy and opinionated.
Many Turkish scholars are working to uncover the nature of the Armenian genocide or the history of the Kurds and what prevents them doing so is not 'Turkey' or 'the Turks' - as Phoenix and other bigots would have us believe - it is fascists and nationalists (or in other words her/his political counterparts) who insist that attempting to uncover other histories is itself an unpatriotic treasonous ambition.Many Turkish scholars are working to uncover the nature of the Armenian genocide or the history of the Kurds and what prevents them doing so is not 'Turkey' or 'the Turks' - as Phoenix and other bigots would have us believe - it is fascists and nationalists (or in other words her/his political counterparts) who insist that attempting to uncover other histories is itself an unpatriotic treasonous ambition
What a lot of horseshit...The turkish states represents the backwards state of the nationalists for cying out loud...Your above claim in itself shows how blind you are...
One can only laugh at your statement coz the turks since the establishment of the republic have done nothing to establish any truths...On the contrary they done everything to squash anything to do with anything...How about 1955?...how about the treatment of the kurds not alone the genocide of the Armenians...have they said sorry yet?...have they corrected anything yet?...Tell me as kurd in Turkey when did you have the right to listen to the radio in kurdish?
I am begging to think you are a blinded fascist...
Boomers
You really are getting tiring now...All you do is snipe and make rude remarks and have no substance or proof in what you say...Copperline has offered you a lot of reading to do on the subject...How about you saying thank you and getting down to some reading so you can say something that means something
Thats pretty funny...He must have used some invisible ink and the links didn't show up...
Since you can see his proof, why not post them here Zan?
Please do not use the same invisible ink copperline is using, coz my spam filters will not allow them to be displayed...
Here is a link, about the fate of these scholars that copperline and you are talking about...Acclaimed novelist Elif Safak was acquitted last week after being taking to trial for "insulting Turkishness" when a fictional character described the Armenian genocide in her latest book.
Armenian-Turkish newspaper editor Hrant Dink wasn't so lucky. [b]He received a six-month suspended sentence for talking about the genocide, and faces two more trials for similar charges. [/b] ...He was convicted for talking about it, not alone studying it Zan and copperline...I can give you more of these scholars...And to shut him up and save the embaresment, he met his fate via a bullet...any chance Zan in telling us what the killer got as punishment?
It may look like a battle over freedom of speech. In fact, the defendants say the Armenian Genocide, and the law that bans "insulting Turkishness," have become a political football between Turkish ultranationalists and pre-European politicians.
Anti-Turkish European politicians have entered the fray by passing laws forbidding citizens to deny that a genocide of Armenians took place in 1915.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6196764
I guess the scholars copperline is talking about are from mars hey Zan...
PS...thank god for the internet...
Boomers....You are either drinking again or breathing too much Harley fumes.......I said the man offered and did not say he posted.....
Hey zan, let us examine the word offer...
to present for acceptance or rejection; proffer: He offered me a cigarette
I guess growing up in england and english being your main language i see either you are still having troubles with the language or one too many zaps...and you know what they say about zapping the braing don't you?
