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Postby bg_turk » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:22 pm

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Congratulations on your noble ancestry. You are much blessed Diri. :D

Your cause is now my cause! . . . . united by a common enemy. :!:


After these romantic exchanges, I'd think you guys will start making out.
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Postby bg_turk » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:33 pm

shahmaran wrote:But Diri, "traditional" means a custom that is carried from generation to generation, if this "custom" changes all the time then it ceases to be a "tradition", unless of course your tradition is to change all the time, in which case that does not mean anything since that's what we all (humans) do anyways, may i ask how old you are Diri if you don't mind?

And could i please see your sources on the incident of the Turks using biological weapons against the Kurds, thank you.


He is obviously making it up. Probably, he is referring to a famous quote by Churchil during World War 1.

As Secretary of State at the
War Office in 1919, Churchill
was approached by the RAF
Middle East Command for
permission to use chemical
weapons ’against recalcitrant
Arabs as experiment.’
Churchill authorized the experiment,
dismissing objections:
I do not understand this
squeamishness about the use of gas. I
am strongly in favour of using poisoned
gas against uncivilized tribes. It is not
necessary to use only the most deadly
gases; gases can be used which cause
great inconvenience and would spread
a lively terror and yet would leave no
serious permanent effects on most of
those affected.
Churchill added: ’we cannot in any
circumstances acquiesce in the non
utilization of any weapons which
are available to procure a speedy
termination of the disorder which
prevails on the frontier.’ Chemical
weapons were merely ’the application
of Western science to modern warfare.’
Churchill was in favour of using
air power and poison gas against
’uncivilized tribes’ and ’recalcitrant
Arabs’ i.e. Kurds and Afghans
[2].
Not surprisingly, in the 1990s, William
Waldegrave, who was in charge of
Prime Minister John Major’s ’open
government’ initiative, ordered the
removal from the Public Record Office
of ’files detailing how British troops had
used poison gas against Iraqi dissidents
including Kurds in 1919 [2].
In this way, a people who wished to
run their own affairs were oppressed
to the limit of genocide. Their King
was undermined by the mighty British
forces and an ’imported’ King from
totally different culture was forced
upon them.


Source:
http://www.hewlerglobe.net/pdf/issue_08/P15.pdf

Turkey never used biological weapons against Kurdish separatists neither on its own territory nor outside of it.

The only non-Western state to do so was Iraq. Saddam gassed hundreds of thousands of civilian Kurds to death in Halabja during the Iran-Iraq war under the pretext that they were siding with Iran.

However, he was never tried for that, and was actually executed for his lesser crimes against the Shia. The Americans and the British were probably too worried that such a high profile case would bring attention to their cooperation and armament of Saddam's regime during his war with Iran and genocidal campaign against the Kurds. An embarrassing revelation given their current ties with the Kurdish regime in the north.
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Postby Dîrî » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:16 pm

@bg_turk

I already gave you TWO sources - in BOOK form... Go read them if you're interested in the truth. Untill you have - please don't have a set mind...
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Postby T_C » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:26 pm

So you're a TC with no traditional clothes and no history and no nothing... So go bark somewhere else


Yes we do have traditional clothes and history thank you very much...plus I always thought barking up trees was a Kurdish thing!?!?! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:42 pm

T_C wrote:
So you're a TC with no traditional clothes and no history and no nothing... So go bark somewhere else


Yes we do have traditional clothes and history thank you very much...plus I always thought barking up trees was a Kurdish thing!?!?! :lol: :lol: :lol:


So what customs have you aquired the last 80 odd years, because before that there was no turkey or turkish people...They ottomans...And you disassiosiate your selves from them...your only excuse to the Armenian genocide...

Since we have established are an Ottoman from Ottoland please tell me some of theses customs... :lol:
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Postby bg_turk » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:13 am

Dîrî wrote:@bg_turk

I already gave you TWO sources - in BOOK form... Go read them if you're interested in the truth. Untill you have - please don't have a set mind...


When and where do your book sources allege the gassing of Kurds occurred? Which page are you quoting from?
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Postby Dîrî » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:18 am

bg_turk wrote:
Dîrî wrote:@bg_turk

I already gave you TWO sources - in BOOK form... Go read them if you're interested in the truth. Untill you have - please don't have a set mind...


When and where do your book sources allege the gassing of Kurds occurred? Which page are you quoting from?


Several places...
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:33 pm

:lol:

Kind of like the "traditional" clothes :lol:
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Postby Dîrî » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:19 pm

shahmaran wrote::lol:

Kind of like the "traditional" clothes :lol:


Are you realy that stupid, or do you just pretend to be?


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Postby shahmaran » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:14 am

Oh i just admire you thats all! ;)
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