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[zan]

HERE ARE THE GIRLS WITH THEIR DRAWING:



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Oh Now I see...That wasn't really a political statement and those girls are a bit older than you first made them out to be...How many colors are there in a rainbow again Contrived would be a good word..

so you basically saying that colours and a combination on how they are used is illegal in turkey?...and you want us to trust the turks...hang on....hahahahahahahahahahahaha...yeah...ok...i trust the turks with all the phobias and complexes... hahahaahahahahahaha

thats not what I said petrol head.....I said the whole thing was contrived to get a reaction and it did by some confused head teacher.....The old pistons on the Harley mis-firing eh!!!!!

[shahmaran]

Good question Jerry, however i am a TC myself and like i said, the world works in funny and very unfair ways, so its not fair to only blame Turkey for looking out for their own interests, everyone does it. I mean the stupid GCs support Kurds for their cause but are compleatly against TCs which is a similar cause, which proves my intiial point even more.

Plus have you actually seen the ridiculous size of the so called "Kurdistan" they are proposing? Its pretty much the same size as central bloody Europe, and it involves taking lands from 3-4 different countries, no wonder they cant take it...


Diri, i didn't know Turkey had "biological weapons" that's news to me!!

Also its funny that your 3000 year old traditional clothes actually include high heels, which in fact is a French tradition only dating back to the early 1500s, plus i was not being prejudist but simply observing the overwhelming amount of work they have put on their "traditional looks" which actually looks very pretentious in a very cheap way, rather then looking pure and traditional. I am saying this because i know exactly what the traditional clothes in Eastern Turkey look like and these are not it. But since this is not even Turkey or "Kurdistan" its no suprize that they have been influenced by European traditions, kind of makes you question the authenticity of your "3000 year old" culture doesnt it?

And as a final note, why would anyone make a video to promote the "beauty" of Kurdish women, or the women of any other race? Do they feel neglected or something?

Sorry to be so blunt but all these elements look like you are trying to market yourself through false advertising for some stupid reason, but either way if the Kurds do actually succeed in their quest (and if it means tearing Turkey apart then i really hope they dont) then i would give them full respect indeed for succeeding and they could probably open up our way over here in Cyprus too

[Jerry]

Good question Jerry, however i am a TC myself and like i said, the world works in funny and very unfair ways, so its not fair to only blame Turkey for looking out for their own interests, everyone does it. I mean the stupid GCs support Kurds for their cause but are compleatly against TCs which is a similar cause, which proves my intiial point even more.

Plus have you actually seen the ridiculous size of the so called "Kurdistan" they are proposing? Its pretty much the same size as central bloody Europe, and it involves taking lands from 3-4 different countries, no wonder they cant take it...


Diri, i didn't know Turkey had "biological weapons" that's news to me!!

Shah, they support the Kurds for one reason only - because both are against Turkey.

With regard toKurdistan I suggest you read up on The Treaty of Serves. It proposed the creation of Kurdistan following the break up of the Ottoman Empire.

Also its funny that your 3000 year old traditional clothes actually include high heels, which in fact is a French tradition only dating back to the early 1500s, plus i was not being prejudist but simply observing the overwhelming amount of work they have put on their "traditional looks" which actually looks very pretentious in a very cheap way, rather then looking pure and traditional. I am saying this because i know exactly what the traditional clothes in Eastern Turkey look like and these are not it. But since this is not even Turkey or "Kurdistan" its no suprize that they have been influenced by European traditions, kind of makes you question the authenticity of your "3000 year old" culture doesnt it?

And as a final note, why would anyone make a video to promote the "beauty" of Kurdish women, or the women of any other race? Do they feel neglected or something?

Sorry to be so blunt but all these elements look like you are trying to market yourself through false advertising for some stupid reason, but either way if the Kurds do actually succeed in their quest (and if it means tearing Turkey apart then i really hope they dont) then i would give them full respect indeed for succeeding and they could probably open up our way over here in Cyprus too

[shahmaran]

Shah, they support the Kurds for one reason only - because both are against Turkey.

So doesn't that prove my point even further? Turkey is not doing anything that the GCs are not doing regarding minorities and their fight to be independent, the only difference is that we have managed to claim our part and declare our independence partially, but the Kurds have not. The Kurds should also remember that it is their people who pretty much make up most of the immigrants from Turkey and it would also suit their people if the TCs achieve their cause, but if it was up to the GCs, they want them out of there along with the other settlers from Turkey.

On one hand they scream barbarians and murderers and thieves and on the other hand they support Kurdish terrorists!!

Oh the irony, the sick, twisted, hypocritical, sneaky and shameless politics of the Greeks, never cease to surprise me, EVER!

[phoenix]

Shahmaran seems to think we live by the law of the jungle and Turkey can rightfully behave this way without criticism.

I fully support the Kurds' land rights. But I don't think there are any worthy similarities between the struggle of the Kurds for Sovereignty and those of the Turk-TCs in Cyprus.

The Turk-TCs are leftovers from a recent invasion. They came from somewhere (no one seems certain where) but without a definite land base (so-called Ottoland) and are claiming territory which they have no historical or legal rights to.

Turkey is disproportionally big for the Turks and it just encourages them to reproduce to fill the available space. So I fully support any moves to reduce its size . . . since none of it belongs to the Turks anyway.

Also it spoils the Turk-TCs on Cyprus and makes them think they are warranted in asking for a disproportionally larger fragment of Cyprus than they would be due for their numbers. Besides, they are not due any part.

As far as the "traditional" dress of the dancing girls. There is no contradiction in modernising it. After all Turkish Belly Dancers are just as happy to dance to music from a CD as to a band etc. And they wear modern make-up (lots ) etc.

[denizaksulu]

What beautiful young ladies ~

I wish I was 40 years younger

Bill

I suggest you keep your thoughts to yourself. If their brothers read your mind (I agree with you though) you are dead meat!

Uzakdan cekdiler bu resimi da o yuzden size oyle gelir....yakindan cekseidiler biyikdan goremeycekdiniz hicbirseyi....

Sorry I couldn't resist....

Haklisin. Koyu derili insanlarda dudak ustu killar daha da belirli oluyor. Yegenlerim de oyle, fakat yegenlerim Kurt degil.

Sorry I couldnt resist either.

Selamlar

(only talking about bodily hair. Dont panic!)

You're calling Kurds for "Dark"??? Do you know what a REAL Turk looks like?

And I ain't talking about Turkey Turks - as we all know they are mostly of Greek, Kurdish, Armenian, Assyrian and Balkan/Caucasian genes...

'Dark' as in 'not Anglo-saxon pink'. Plz dont read something into my posts when I am sure you know what I mean.

Regards

[denizaksulu]

Shahmaran seems to think we live by the law of the jungle and Turkey can rightfully behave this way without criticism.

I fully support the Kurds' land rights. But I don't think there are any worthy similarities between the struggle of the Kurds for Sovereignty and those of the Turk-TCs in Cyprus.

The Turk-TCs are leftovers from a recent invasion. They came from somewhere (no one seems certain where) but without a definite land base (so-called Ottoland) and are claiming territory which they have no historical or legal rights to.

Turkey is disproportionally big for the Turks and it just encourages them to reproduce to fill the available space. So I fully support any moves to reduce its size . . . since none of it belongs to the Turks anyway.

Also it spoils the Turk-TCs on Cyprus and makes them think they are warranted in asking for a disproportionally larger fragment of Cyprus than they would be due for their numbers. Besides, they are not due any part.

As far as the "traditional" dress of the dancing girls. There is no contradiction in modernising it. After all Turkish Belly Dancers are just as happy to dance to music from a CD as to a band etc. And they wear modern make-up (lots ) etc.

Phoenix mou, I admire you for the support you give for the Kurds. Do you also support their terrorist activities?

[phoenix]

Shahmaran seems to think we live by the law of the jungle and Turkey can rightfully behave this way without criticism.

I fully support the Kurds' land rights. But I don't think there are any worthy similarities between the struggle of the Kurds for Sovereignty and those of the Turk-TCs in Cyprus.

The Turk-TCs are leftovers from a recent invasion. They came from somewhere (no one seems certain where) but without a definite land base (so-called Ottoland) and are claiming territory which they have no historical or legal rights to.

Turkey is disproportionally big for the Turks and it just encourages them to reproduce to fill the available space. So I fully support any moves to reduce its size . . . since none of it belongs to the Turks anyway.

Also it spoils the Turk-TCs on Cyprus and makes them think they are warranted in asking for a disproportionally larger fragment of Cyprus than they would be due for their numbers. Besides, they are not due any part.

As far as the "traditional" dress of the dancing girls. There is no contradiction in modernising it. After all Turkish Belly Dancers are just as happy to dance to music from a CD as to a band etc. And they wear modern make-up (lots ) etc.

Phoenix mou, I admire you for the support you give for the Kurds. Do you also support their terrorist activities?

I am not aware of any terrorists activities by them. They have a struggle for liberation . . . my parents did the same in WWII.

Turkey sprinkles her own labels on a number of things I and the rest of Mankind do not recognise.

[shahmaran]

Well everyone recognizes the PKK as a terrorist organization other then Phoenix so I'm just going to ignore everything else she has said and not bother with it, i do totally disagree with her but my food is burning so this is the best you will get at the moment nerd!

[phoenix]

Well everyone recognizes the PKK as a terrorist organization other then Phoenix so I'm just going to ignore everything else she has said and not bother with it, i do totally disagree with her but my food is burning so this is the best you will get at the moment nerd!

That's your most effective argument so far

Bonne appetit