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Postby GreekForumer » Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:40 pm

shahmaran wrote:I love the all "we are the innocent persecuted Kurds who all we want to do is use our colors in stupid little drawings but mighty evil Turkey wont let us" attitude, what about the 40,000 dead people, is that how you justify it?


The Kurds killed all of these 40,000 ?

Turkey destroyed 3000 (?) Kurdish villages without killing a single Kurd ?

Hasn't Turkey killed 10s of thousands of Kurds since "The Great Backstabbing" of 1923 ?

Ocalan started PKK in 1970s, right ?

Dersim massacre was in late 1930s, right ?

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Postby shahmaran » Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:54 pm

Yes teacher getting instructions from the "high above" to ban them from school for 3 days, my god you really have hit the spot this time Phoenix, what is next?

Yes GF, and what did that Great Backstabbing actually invole, bad breaths and bad humour?

The 40,000 alone is just since the 80s.
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Postby GreekForumer » Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:55 pm

Diri,
are you a Kurd "born and bred" in Turkey or from elsewhere ?
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Postby GreekForumer » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:07 pm

shahmaran wrote:Yes GF, and what did that Great Backstabbing actually invole, bad breaths and bad humour?


Something more evil than 13 proposals to amend a Constitution.
It involved Cultural Genocide to be exact. The deliberate destruction of Kurdishness and the theft of "Sevres Kurdistan". Did the Turkish leaders tell the Kurds about these intentions BEFORE the Kurds gave their lives in the Independence war ?

Bad breaths, Bad humour ? :roll:


Diri wrote:Absolutely...

In fact, it was funny to see the person you intended the question for dodged it...

The Kurds were promised something FAR better than the Sèvres treaty - by Atatürk and co...

As ethnic maps will show, the political divisions of the Treaty of Sèvres were not in line with the ethnic ones... And that's in part why Kurds didn't accept the treaty, since it was encroaching on Kurdish lands - and not recognizing our territorial demands... So the Northern Kurds joined the Turks, who promised justice.

We, of course, fell for the trick... And there you go: the Treaty of Lousanne (in which we lost everything promised to us) - was ratified...

Ismet Inonu - Atatürk's right hand - a Kurd who'd sold out, spoke on behalf of the Kurds, representing us... Without our consent and support naturally - putting our hands and necks in chains, bringing us to our knees, to serve as slaves of the Turks till this day...

Many Turkish officials have since made a reference to this, saying things in the lines of: "Only Turks are the masters of this country - all others are slaves..."

http://cyprus-forum.com/post-216243.html#216243
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Postby T_C » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:09 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Bill wrote:What beautiful young ladies ~ :D

I wish I was 40 years younger :cry:

Bill


I suggest you keep your thoughts to yourself. If their brothers read your mind (I agree with you though) you are dead meat! :lol:


Uzakdan cekdiler bu resimi da o yuzden size oyle gelir....yakindan cekseidiler biyikdan goremeycekdiniz hicbirseyi.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:









:? Sorry I couldn't resist.... :lol:
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Postby GreekForumer » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:11 pm

shahmaran wrote:The 40,000 alone is just since the 80s.


OK, What was the death toll before Ocalan (80s) ?

And how many Kurds were killed when the Turkish army destroyed those 3000 Kurdish villages ?
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Postby shahmaran » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:17 pm

When i said Back Stabbing i meant on the Kurdish part, no thanks to the Armenians either i suppose, just like the Kurdish role in their killings, but yes blame it all on the Turks so much easier :roll:

I believe the main reason was because the Kurds sided with the Russians agianst the Turks, so what do you expect in a time when EVERYONE was litreally trying to take a chunk off from Turkey...
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:01 pm

T_C wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Bill wrote:What beautiful young ladies ~ :D

I wish I was 40 years younger :cry:

Bill


I suggest you keep your thoughts to yourself. If their brothers read your mind (I agree with you though) you are dead meat! :lol:


Uzakdan cekdiler bu resimi da o yuzden size oyle gelir....yakindan cekseidiler biyikdan goremeycekdiniz hicbirseyi.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:









:? Sorry I couldn't resist.... :lol:



Haklisin. Koyu derili insanlarda dudak ustu killar daha da belirli oluyor. Yegenlerim de oyle, fakat yegenlerim Kurt degil. :lol:

Sorry I couldnt resist either.

Selamlar


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Postby shahmaran » Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:20 pm

Hahaha and not to mention the ironed hair and the unnecessarily extreme make up, while trying to pull of some folk dance moves on high heels, they look more like a sad attempt of a show off with western wannabe outfits fusion with weird "traditional" clothes, in reality they are far from looking traditional, or maybe that is the actual Kurdish tradition who knows. Also is she waving an Italian flag in her hand?

Diri are you any of these fine young ladies in the photo by any chance?

Judging by the people in the back i am assuming this somewhere in Europe?

Is that too many questions? Im sorry :)
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Postby Jerry » Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:21 pm

Funny isn't it, the smaller ethnic groups in Turkey are rebels and terrorists but in Cyprus they are victims. The words "double standards" "hypocrisy" and "pot kettle and black" spring to mind.
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