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Postby EPSILON » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:25 pm

zan wrote:Embargoed have sent the letter below to Theresa Villiers MP. Please copy and send it to her endorsing what the letter says. The Embargoes must go.....


Theresa Villiers MP
163 High Street
Barnet
Hertfordshire
EN5 5SU
06 November 2007

Dear Mrs Villiers,

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Whatever letters be sent, whatever you do. You do not understand a basic thing.!!!!

No person or politician in EU or in any other International body can help you at the time your side is violating the principals rules of UN and particularly EU.No individual persons are deciding about policies about certain subjects unless same policies are complying with international and particularly with EU written rules and procedures.

Your leaders trying to convist you that because certain people or politicians in Europe saying something possitive about "TRNC " that means that their words will became reality and be applied in practice.On basis your regime is an unlawfull entity the certain politicians are ,sometimes giving you certain carrots two/three times a years, just to secure some business with mainland Turkey and the story is repeated next yer.

What you can not understand is that even powers like USA or UK can not find ways to make legal a regime created after an invasion like yours.

There is only one way for your regime to part of civilized world and particularly EU. To accept one person one vote in a united Cyprus otherwise you can start to thing the possibility to be part of a new union with Turky, Afhanistan, Turkmenistan etc and apply your rules.

In this side of the world the rules are different and if you wish to be part of it (this includes Turkey also) you have firstly to understand the rules and secondly to accept same/

Otherwise you can stay in your Islamantan union and leave us in our world
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Postby Piratis » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:31 pm

shahmaran wrote:
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Clutching at straws yet again, the clock is ticking and time will work in our favor


Keep dreaming. Our island will be liberated from foreign occupation. We had many like you in the long history of our island.

Well we dont share the same truth my friend, you dont seem to get it ever....


There is just one truth. You can't just invent some "truth" and manufacture history to excuse you stealing the land we have existed for 1000s of years.


Excuse me, you are the one who manipulates history in order to manufacture a "truth" that serves you alone (ie. unfounded crap like we are the indigenous people here), which is why you will never get what you want because your "truth" is far from being in line with the reality, we have been here for a long time and we are not going anywhere, we could have lived together but you tried to take our rights from us so we tried to take them back, and then we lost our rights AGAIN and now you are trying to take more. Your little scam to free this island from TCs in any means possible has almost worked but not quite. The "shift of power" you have been waiting will come eventually but might not be quite what you expected it to be because you are in denial and racist.


You came to our island to enslave and exploit us. All we have ever done was to revolt against your oppressive rule, and later the British rule, seeking nothing else than our freedom and self determination which you have denied to us. You have no right to control any part of our island or oppress our human and democratic rights.

You calling me racist is the biggest joke ever. You have performed ethnic cleansing against 100s of thousands of people so you could steal their land and create some pure Turkish state on it. Thats a level of racism only Hitler has reached before.

On the other hand I do not hate anybody due to his race. I only hate criminals and thieves.

When the time comes I would actually pay to see your face, i think it would be a remarkable sight :lol:


The day you are dreaming will never come. But if it did, then believe me you wouldn't want be anywhere near because Cypriots will revolt against those that will try to impose their will on us and our island.
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Postby EPSILON » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:36 pm

Piratis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Clutching at straws yet again, the clock is ticking and time will work in our favor


Keep dreaming. Our island will be liberated from foreign occupation. We had many like you in the long history of our island.

Well we dont share the same truth my friend, you dont seem to get it ever....


There is just one truth. You can't just invent some "truth" and manufacture history to excuse you stealing the land we have existed for 1000s of years.


Excuse me, you are the one who manipulates history in order to manufacture a "truth" that serves you alone (ie. unfounded crap like we are the indigenous people here), which is why you will never get what you want because your "truth" is far from being in line with the reality, we have been here for a long time and we are not going anywhere, we could have lived together but you tried to take our rights from us so we tried to take them back, and then we lost our rights AGAIN and now you are trying to take more. Your little scam to free this island from TCs in any means possible has almost worked but not quite. The "shift of power" you have been waiting will come eventually but might not be quite what you expected it to be because you are in denial and racist.


You came to our island to enslave and exploit us. All we have ever done was to revolt against your oppressive rule, and later the British rule, seeking nothing else than our freedom and self determination which you have denied to us. You have no right to control any part of our island or oppress our human and democratic rights.

You calling me racist is the biggest joke ever. You have performed ethnic cleansing against 100s of thousands of people so you could steal their land and create some pure Turkish state on it. Thats a level of racism only Hitler has reached before.

On the other hand I do not hate anybody due to his race. I only hate criminals and thieves.

When the time comes I would actually pay to see your face, i think it would be a remarkable sight :lol:


The day you are dreaming will never come. But if it did, then believe me you wouldn't want be anywhere near because Cypriots will revolt against those that will try to impose their will on us and our island.


Go on Pirates, tell them that the time is near when their mainland Turkey will be the bazar of land Europeans to buy and then the Greks of Cyprus will be there-to be paid.!!!!
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Postby RAFAELLA » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:24 pm

Theresa Villiers:
“For many years I have been attending the Morphou Rally to show my support for its displaced residents. It is a source of sadness and concern to me that for 33 years, Morphou refugees have been prevented from returning to their village and their homes. I am sure that all the many parliamentarians and civic dignitaries who attended the rally share my determination to campaign harder than ever for a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus.”

“It was a great honour to have been asked to attend the rally yet again. There was a strong presence from my Conservative colleagues on Barnet Council. I know that the Morphou refugees were very pleased to see the leader, deputy leader, deputy mayor and London Assembly member for Barnet attend the event to commemorate the tragedy which saw them driven from their homes by the 1974 invasion.”

“Taking part in the rally, along a series of meetings and discussions during my visit to Cyprus, gave me the chance to remember all those who lost their homes in the invasion, not just the Morphides. It remains a huge concern to me that the Ankara government still refuses to let the refugees return, despite numerous UN resolutions and a decision in the European Court of Human Rights confirming the legal right of Cypriots to reclaim the properties stolen from them in 1974.
http://www.theresavilliers.co.uk/article/?id=297
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Postby EPSILON » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:28 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:Theresa Villiers:
“For many years I have been attending the Morphou Rally to show my support for its displaced residents. It is a source of sadness and concern to me that for 33 years, Morphou refugees have been prevented from returning to their village and their homes. I am sure that all the many parliamentarians and civic dignitaries who attended the rally share my determination to campaign harder than ever for a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus.”

“It was a great honour to have been asked to attend the rally yet again. There was a strong presence from my Conservative colleagues on Barnet Council. I know that the Morphou refugees were very pleased to see the leader, deputy leader, deputy mayor and London Assembly member for Barnet attend the event to commemorate the tragedy which saw them driven from their homes by the 1974 invasion.”

“Taking part in the rally, along a series of meetings and discussions during my visit to Cyprus, gave me the chance to remember all those who lost their homes in the invasion, not just the Morphides. It remains a huge concern to me that the Ankara government still refuses to let the refugees return, despite numerous UN resolutions and a decision in the European Court of Human Rights confirming the legal right of Cypriots to reclaim the properties stolen from them in 1974.
http://www.theresavilliers.co.uk/article/?id=297


Raffaella you still leaving in a romantic World- here we speak about military power and a war winner-Give your house, your memories as a gigt to these who can destroy your country in total- give them as a carrot - maybe the dock be feel not hungry for 1-20 years until we became ready!!!
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Postby EPSILON » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:36 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Theresa Villiers:
“For many years I have been attending the Morphou Rally to show my support for its displaced residents. It is a source of sadness and concern to me that for 33 years, Morphou refugees have been prevented from returning to their village and their homes. I am sure that all the many parliamentarians and civic dignitaries who attended the rally share my determination to campaign harder than ever for a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus.”

“It was a great honour to have been asked to attend the rally yet again. There was a strong presence from my Conservative colleagues on Barnet Council. I know that the Morphou refugees were very pleased to see the leader, deputy leader, deputy mayor and London Assembly member for Barnet attend the event to commemorate the tragedy which saw them driven from their homes by the 1974 invasion.”

“Taking part in the rally, along a series of meetings and discussions during my visit to Cyprus, gave me the chance to remember all those who lost their homes in the invasion, not just the Morphides. It remains a huge concern to me that the Ankara government still refuses to let the refugees return, despite numerous UN resolutions and a decision in the European Court of Human Rights confirming the legal right of Cypriots to reclaim the properties stolen from them in 1974.”


The Annan plan gave you exactly that you two bit scrubber.


The Annan plan was for stupids and Tcs voted for it
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:49 pm

Piratis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Clutching at straws yet again, the clock is ticking and time will work in our favor


Keep dreaming. Our island will be liberated from foreign occupation. We had many like you in the long history of our island.

Well we dont share the same truth my friend, you dont seem to get it ever....


There is just one truth. You can't just invent some "truth" and manufacture history to excuse you stealing the land we have existed for 1000s of years.


Excuse me, you are the one who manipulates history in order to manufacture a "truth" that serves you alone (ie. unfounded crap like we are the indigenous people here), which is why you will never get what you want because your "truth" is far from being in line with the reality, we have been here for a long time and we are not going anywhere, we could have lived together but you tried to take our rights from us so we tried to take them back, and then we lost our rights AGAIN and now you are trying to take more. Your little scam to free this island from TCs in any means possible has almost worked but not quite. The "shift of power" you have been waiting will come eventually but might not be quite what you expected it to be because you are in denial and racist.


You came to our island to enslave and exploit us. All we have ever done was to revolt against your oppressive rule, and later the British rule, seeking nothing else than our freedom and self determination which you have denied to us. You have no right to control any part of our island or oppress our human and democratic rights.

You calling me racist is the biggest joke ever. You have performed ethnic cleansing against 100s of thousands of people so you could steal their land and create some pure Turkish state on it. Thats a level of racism only Hitler has reached before.

On the other hand I do not hate anybody due to his race. I only hate criminals and thieves.

When the time comes I would actually pay to see your face, i think it would be a remarkable sight :lol:


The day you are dreaming will never come. But if it did, then believe me you wouldn't want be anywhere near because Cypriots will revolt against those that will try to impose their will on us and our island.


You are an absolute joke Piratis,
This is the way i see it; i was born here and THIS IS MY HOME MY ISLAND everything they can to deny me my freedom and i will do everything to take it back, even if it came to the ridiculous "shift of power" you keep wetting yourself about.

The difference between you and me is ), you are blaming me for what my ancestors did by constantly refering to me like i am some extension of the Ottoman Empire, but im blaming you for what you are doing right now as a person and what you did in the past (assuming you are old enough to have been around), and i assure you that i am just as Cypriot as you are and if that "day" does come i will be exactly where i am right now and you will have to kill me to change it because i would have no problem doing it to you if you EVER try to deny me and my people our lands ever again, now that you can for most count on and i am definately not alone by thinking like this.

Other then that im sure you can be a decent person and im hoping we can live in peace and that i suggest you start getting used to the idea that eventually we will be just as free as you are one way or another ON THIS ISLAND ;)
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Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:01 pm

The letter is a step in the right direction, but IMHO, it does not go far enough. I still believe that only the recognition of the TRNC as an independent state will end this problem. Of course, this view is not exactly a popular one on this forum, but the way I see it is this: recognition will mean that the Turkish forces will no longer be there, and that the T/C's will no longer feel threatened. THAT will start a long road that will eventually lead to reconciliation and reunification. After all, how long was Yemen divided into two seperate RECOGNIZED countries before they reconciled?
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Postby utu » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:06 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:The letter is a step in the right direction, but IMHO, it does not go far enough. I still believe that only the recognition of the TRNC as an independent state will end this problem. Of course, this view is not exactly a popular one on this forum, but the way I see it is this: recognition will mean that the Turkish forces will no longer be there, and that the T/C's will no longer feel threatened. THAT will start a long road that will eventually lead to reconciliation and reunification. After all, how long was Yemen divided into two seperate RECOGNIZED countries before they reconciled?


What you are saying is that taking steps back is the best way to go forward? It's an interesting notion, but I think it best to point out that the very real possibility of Turkey annexing TRNC (like Hatay) in the wake of such recognition would make this idea of yours a non-starter. Cyprus' communities need to reconcile, but the 'Yemen solution' is - IMHO - not the way to go.
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