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[utu]

You folks are missing the point: Ban Ki Moon's statement means that the UN now regards the isolations imposed on the Turkish Cypriots as precisely that: isolations. Not so-called isolations as stated by the RoC. That has changed the political dynamic somewhat within the UN.

[Nikitas]

It all boils down to direct flights and not much more from what I can see.

The EU will expect the TCs to implement EU regulations in trade, things like phtyosanitary and veterinary certification etc which cannot be circumvented. So far the Talat government has refused implementation of the EU regulations.

[Bananiot]

What it boils down to is that the north is fast becoming the Taiwan of the Mediterranean. This is the greatest achievement of the Papadopoulos government. Thank god he will be no more after February. Perhaps we can salvage something after he goes.

[Kikapu]

I hate to rain on the "TRNC's" parade on the isolation being lifted, and if it were, what would change for the TC's in general. As BigOz stated very clearly few months ago, lifting of any isolation is nothing more than a symbolic gesture to the TC's. He said basically, that the "TRNC" lacked anything that the world really needs or worse, that the "TRNC can deliver, even if there were any needs. So let the Parade begin if you want, but what does it really mean.....just a symbolic gesture. BigOz also said very accurately, that the Recognition will not be coming anytime soon, and Ban Ki Moon made that very clear also, so for the TC's to forget about any Recognition. I don't even believe Direct Flights are even in the cards to be lifted. Sounds like some direct trade, as the case is right now with Turkey and the UK plus one or two other countries, mostly in Arab Countries, along with some sport and education based isolation's being lifted, if they are lifted at all.

OK, so why after 24 years this all has to come ahead in 2008. Well, this is the year when Turkey will need to swallow a Giant Pill in allowing access to the RoC Turkish air space and Ports. It is Turkey's last chance to make any forward movement towards the EU. Ban Ki Moon wants to give Turkey some "face saving" exit from humiliation by giving something to Turkey, which has been to lift the isolation. As I said before, Turkey does not want any Recognition to come to the "TRNC", because that will be the "death nail" for her EU aspirations. Turkey wants to be seen as a influential player in getting her way with the lifting of the isolation, so that the Turkish leaders do not look like idiots in front of the Mighty Turkish Military Generals. Of course, the RoC can also play "hardball" with the UN by telling them, that as a EU member, they will veto for the EU to approve giving Kosovo recognition with their Independence, which the UN and the EU wants to do, along with the USA. The EU does not want members voting NO on this resolution. So, perhaps there are a lot of back room deals are being cut, so that Ban Ki Moon will get what he wants from the RoC for Kosovo, which means giving the "TRNC" very limited and meaningless lifting of the isolation on couple of things concerning Direct Trade, but not Direct Flights, Turkey gets to save her "Face", that the RoC will get Turkish Ports and Air Space, so that Turkey's talks with the EU can proceed to the next stage.

It's all very clear to me...how about you.???

[boomerang]

very clear to me...thowing another bone for licking to the dog...

[zan]

What it boils down to is that the north is fast becoming the Taiwan of the Mediterranean. This is the greatest achievement of the Papadopoulos government. Thank god he will be no more after February. Perhaps we can salvage something after he goes.

Although it is probably upsetting you to think that it has gone this far Bananiot it is really eating the others up...Speculation like that of Kikapu is just sour grapes and he will see what we can do without the isolation and embargoes. If the "RoC" thought like him then they would not have protested so loudly every time there was a hint of it.

GO Taiwan.........

[Get Real!]

You folks are missing the point: Ban Ki Moon's statement means that the UN now regards the isolations imposed on the Turkish Cypriots as precisely that: isolations. Not so-called isolations as stated by the RoC. That has changed the political dynamic somewhat within the UN.

The UN passed COUNTLESS resolutions that Turkey saw and still sees fit to ignore and here you are having a premature ejaculation running down your pants over something that ignorant Ban Ki Moon MAY have SAID!

Since when does Turkey or the TC community respect what the UN says or does?

[zan]

You folks are missing the point: Ban Ki Moon's statement means that the UN now regards the isolations imposed on the Turkish Cypriots as precisely that: isolations. Not so-called isolations as stated by the RoC. That has changed the political dynamic somewhat within the UN.

The UN passed COUNTLESS resolutions that Turkey saw and still sees fit to ignore and here you are having a premature ejaculation running down your pants over something that ignorant Ban Ki Moon MAY have SAID!

Since when does Turkey or the TC community respect what the UN says or does?

You are in the EU so you will have to.......Didn't think of that did you....



The resolutions HAD to be paseed by the UN...They had no choice because of the well laid plans of Tpap when he wrote and directed the Akritas Plan. The call for intervention on the violence you guys started against the TCs and then convinced the world it was "Intercommunal Conflict" was the key factor on all resolutions passed. Tis ensured the resolutions and you may have just got away with it if you hadn't been so greedy. Now the Un and the EU are fed up with your lies and tricks and will find ways around it in spite of your corrupt leaders antics in the courts.

[boomerang]

You folks are missing the point: Ban Ki Moon's statement means that the UN now regards the isolations imposed on the Turkish Cypriots as precisely that: isolations. Not so-called isolations as stated by the RoC. That has changed the political dynamic somewhat within the UN.

The UN passed COUNTLESS resolutions that Turkey saw and still sees fit to ignore and here you are having a premature ejaculation running down your pants over something that ignorant Ban Ki Moon MAY have SAID!

Since when does Turkey or the TC community respect what the UN says or does?

When it suits them...and now they are gonna start saying another dickhead gave them promises, but the horrible gs, with all there mighty power stopped them...wait and see, it's around the corner...

This is more that evident by the article in Kibris as vip said and the one halil showed...as I said feeding the chooks...

ps...guarantee you this will come out....the UN said this and the UN said that

[Get Real!]

You folks are missing the point: Ban Ki Moon's statement means that the UN now regards the isolations imposed on the Turkish Cypriots as precisely that: isolations. Not so-called isolations as stated by the RoC. That has changed the political dynamic somewhat within the UN.

The UN passed COUNTLESS resolutions that Turkey saw and still sees fit to ignore and here you are having a premature ejaculation running down your pants over something that ignorant Ban Ki Moon MAY have SAID!

Since when does Turkey or the TC community respect what the UN says or does?

You are in the EU so you will have to.......Didn't think of that did you....



The resolutions HAD to be paseed by the UN...They had no choice because of the well laid plans of Tpap when he wrote and directed the Akritas Plan. The call for intervention on the violence you guys started against the TCs and then convinced the world it was "Intercommunal Conflict" was the key factor on all resolutions passed. Tis ensured the resolutions and you may have just got away with it if you hadn't been so greedy. Now the Un and the EU are fed up with your lies and tricks and will find ways around it in spite of your corrupt leaders antics in the courts.

What a garbage response!