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[denizaksulu]

About the enosis discussion:

Union with Greece was the the desire of the great majority of the Cypriot people and it was their right. According to the resolutions about decolonization, " integration into an independent State" was one of the 3 legitimate options that the people being decolonized could democratically choose for their own territory.
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/decolonizat ... ration.htm
There was nothing criminal about that. Just the right of the Cypriot people that for so many centuries have suffered under foreign rulers and they finally wanted to be liberated like it happened with many other Greek islands and territories (many of which where under the Ottomans for much longer, and had much bigger Turkish minorities living in them)
Union with Greece did not involve human or other violations against Turkish Cypriots or anybody else.

In order to deny this right to Cypriots, Britain and Turkey used the TC minority on the island as an excuse by exploting their justified fears and their greediness.
Even if we assume that some fears that TCs had regarding enosis could be justified, nothing (apart from pure greediness) could justify the divisive and racist constitution for "independence" that was forced on Cypriots on the loss of GCs and for the benefit of TCs.

From the moment that Makarios had accepted to make a compromise and propose independence, Cypriots should have been at least allowed to have a normal democratic free state. They were not even allowed that, and the TC minority was installed as an organ of the foreign powers (by giving to them gifts on our loss) in order to maintain the divide and rule policy and the control of UK/Turkey over Cyprus.

Justified fears! To whom are you refering Piratis? If iits the TCs justified fears, then that says it all. If not Please, clarify.

Regards

[Piratis]

Bullshit!!!!

BULLSHİT

Your lack of arguments is well known.

Justified fears! To whom are you refering Piratis? If iits the TCs justified fears, then that says it all. If not Please, clarify.

I think I was clear Deniz.

The EOKA struggle was a perfectly just one. Cypriots after centuries of oppression by British, Turks and others wanted to finally be liberated like it happened with many other Greek territories and islands.

In their struggle EOKA targeted the colonialists. The conflict between GCs and TCs in fact started by the TCs during 57-58 (with the encouragement of the British), not the other way around.

However, because I understand why TCs didn't want enosis and the fears that they had could be justified (due to what happened in Crete), for this reason I do not blame them for their collaboration with the British and for playing the divide and rule game of the colonialists and starting the inter-communal conflict against us. I would only hope that you would also be the same understanding and see why GCs wanted liberation after centuries of oppression.

So, the justified fears of TCs justified their rejection of enosis. However from the moment that GCs accepted to compromise their right for union with Greece and proposed independence then we should have been allowed to have a true independence.

However once again the TCs collaborated with UK/Turkey and became their organ in Cyprus, out of pure greediness this time and not fears, in order to gain on the loss of GCs and therefore maintain the hostility between the two sides. For this the TCs can not be justified.

Neither can the demand of TCs (which started from the 50s and continues until today) for partition can be justified. Unlike enosis, which was the right of the Cypriot people and would not involve the violations of the human rights of any Cypriot, partition is a crime that involves the killing and ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of people from their lands.

Britain and Turkey have used (and are using) the TC minority by promising to them gains on the loss of Greek Cypriots. The TC greediness does not allow them to see the game played by Turkey and UK and as a result all Cypriots lose and UK/Turkey get what they want from Cyprus.

[BirKibrisli]

Nikitas...TMT was formed earlier than 1958.
It followed on from VOLKAN,the intellectual predecessor of TMT,which was banned by the British in November,1957.
The first official statement made by the TMT was on the 29th of November 1957. It ordered the Turkish Cypriots to obey the instructions of the new organisation to the letter. "WE don't want to believe there will be traitors in our mist,but if we find any it will be our duty to mercilessly crush them," was the chilling message...
But of course the planning and training had began as early as 1955 or 56.

(The Times,30 November,1957;Quoted by Prof. Dr.A.Suat Bilge -Le conflit de Chypre et Les Cypriotes Turcs-Etude documentaire,Ankara 1961,p 174)

[Get Real!]

Bullshit!!!!

Heed Piratis O’ suspicious one…

[halil]

Bullshit!!!!

BULLSHİT

Your lack of arguments is well known.

Your lack of arguments also well known . you are always dreaming and you stuck at past .
Sutiations are so different now . Generations are change . Last thing in our history was Annan Plan . No way you can get away from it .
Referandum means also self determanation . We can decide our own future not your ideas or your EOKA defending ideas .
No one listens any more EOKA or TMT stories .
Have a lookat last arguments at EU and UN secratery documants .
Who cares 63, 67 or 74 .
time is end of the 2007.

[Get Real!]

Your lack of arguments also well known . you are always dreaming and you stuck at past .

You should heed Piratis too O' broadcasting one...

[halil]

Your lack of arguments also well known . you are always dreaming and you stuck at past .

You should heed Piratis too O' broadcasting one...

we had this kind of bull shits since ..................... Even kids are laughing.

[zan]

Bullshit!!!!

Heed Piratis O’ suspicious one…

Suspicious of Piratis...That would infer that I trusted him in some way.....HahahahahahahaaaaThe guy has been the purveyor of half truths for so long that I can see what he writes without even reading it...

[Get Real!]

Hearken your souls O’ Greekish Cypriot brethren lest I may send a swarm of locusts to devour your crops and pester your families…