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[Jerry]

And stuff like the 1955 pogrom in Constantinople.

[zan]

And stuff like the 1955 pogrom in Constantinople.

Absolutely and then ENOSIS all over the walls and on our mountains and you are surprised that we reacted against it

[humanist]

Zan you are becoming very boring wit the enosis crap your loosing credibility

[Jerry]

And stuff like the 1955 pogrom in Constantinople.

Absolutely and then ENOSIS all over the walls and on our mountains and you are surprised that we reacted against it

Ah, but what came before the pogrom?

[Jerry]

Zan you are becoming very boring wit the enosis crap your loosing credibility

I have to disagre H, he has never had credibility, just a good enough memory to spout the same tripe over and over again.

[zan]

Zan you are becoming very boring wit the enosis crap your loosing credibility

Would you like me to stop sir????


I bet you would. History my dear friend...History......My credibility is staked on it.......You keep going on about Turkey and ignore what we the TCs want and don't worry about my credibility. EOKA and ENOSIS was what effected my life and all you want to talk about is 1974.......Why am I not surprised.

Until you get it into your thick heads about why we are here today and how we should get out of it then little old boring me will be here....I can always get Kikapu to make up stories for you if you like.....


Did You hear what the finance minister of the "RoC" said today by the way.....Have you got any links to it...

[boomerang]

Zan you are becoming very boring wit the enosis crap your loosing credibility

Would you like me to stop sir????


I bet you would. History my dear friend...History......My credibility is staked on it.......You keep going on about Turkey and ignore what we the TCs want and don't worry about my credibility. EOKA and ENOSIS was what effected my life and all you want to talk about is 1974.......Why am I not surprised.

Until you get it into your thick heads about why we are here today and how we should get out of it then little old boring me will be here....I can always get Kikapu to make up stories for you if you like.....


Did You hear what the finance minister of the "RoC" said today by the way.....Have you got any links to it...

I think you are starting to lose those few precious marbles zan...

[Natty]

VP said:-Taksim was a direct reaction to Enosis,

Well VP what do you think Enosis was a reaction to? Do you think its just possible that it was seen as a defence against Turkish domination of Cyprus.

A dream to gift Cyprus to greece and wipe out the TCs population which was in the way.

That's where you're wrong VP, there was never any mention of Enosis coming hand in hand with the 'the extermination' of the Turkish Cypriot population…although I can see why many Turkish Cypriots feared that something along those lines would happen, you need only look back at the History of Greece and Turkey at that point to understand..

It happened in Crete.......Population exchange and the loss of any rights finally the island.........

That's why I can understand people's fears Zan. In my opinion the ‘enosis idea’ was not dealt with in a very good way, there was no attempt really to put peoples minds at rest, but it's not entirely fair to compare one Island to another, especially when the circumstances were different…

Can you imagine the stories coming out and the killings that went on....Then we see ENOSIS written everywhere and people being killed....

Zan when you say Killings, what do you mean? And are you talking about the period 1955-59? Because if you are I was always led to believe that the vast majority of Turkish Cypriots who were killed during this period were part of the TC auxiliary force that fought against EOKA with the British, so if that's true surely it was only natural that some members were killed? But again I can understand the Turkish Cypriot fears during that period, but can you understand why the vast majority of Greek Cypriots wanted Enosis? (And please don’t say to oppress and ‘exterminate’ the Turkish Cypriots). I remember reading the UN mediator report a while back and it spoke about Enosis and how, on an emotional level the Greek Cypriots were behind the idea 100%, but on practical level the mediator got the impression that people were less inclined towards the idea as there was a certain level of confusion about how things would play out. So if the Greek Cypriots, who had that emotional tug towards the idea were confused and slightly weary, then how must the Turkish Cypriots have felt, who did not have that emotional tug?

[zan]

Zan you are becoming very boring wit the enosis crap your loosing credibility

Would you like me to stop sir????


I bet you would. History my dear friend...History......My credibility is staked on it.......You keep going on about Turkey and ignore what we the TCs want and don't worry about my credibility. EOKA and ENOSIS was what effected my life and all you want to talk about is 1974.......Why am I not surprised.

Until you get it into your thick heads about why we are here today and how we should get out of it then little old boring me will be here....I can always get Kikapu to make up stories for you if you like.....


Did You hear what the finance minister of the "RoC" said today by the way.....Have you got any links to it...

I think you are starting to lose those few precious marbles zan...

Lose the argument start the insults hey Boomers...

[zan]

VP said:-Taksim was a direct reaction to Enosis,

Well VP what do you think Enosis was a reaction to? Do you think its just possible that it was seen as a defence against Turkish domination of Cyprus.

A dream to gift Cyprus to greece and wipe out the TCs population which was in the way.

That's where you're wrong VP, there was never any mention of Enosis coming hand in hand with the 'the extermination' of the Turkish Cypriot population…although I can see why many Turkish Cypriots feared that something along those lines would happen, you need only look back at the History of Greece and Turkey at that point to understand..

It happened in Crete.......Population exchange and the loss of any rights finally the island.........

That's why I can understand people's fears Zan. In my opinion the ‘enosis idea’ was not dealt with in a very good way, there was no attempt really to put peoples minds at rest, but it's not entirely fair to compare one Island to another, especially when the circumstances were different…

Can you imagine the stories coming out and the killings that went on....Then we see ENOSIS written everywhere and people being killed....

Zan when you say Killings, what do you mean? And are you talking about the period 1955-59? Because if you are I was always led to believe that the vast majority of Turkish Cypriots who were killed during this period were part of the TC auxiliary force that fought against EOKA with the British, so if that's true surely it was only natural that some members were killed? But again I can understand the Turkish Cypriot fears during that period, but can you understand why the vast majority of Greek Cypriots wanted Enosis? (And please don’t say to oppress and ‘exterminate’ the Turkish Cypriots). I remember reading the UN mediator report a while back and it spoke about Enosis and how, on an emotional level the Greek Cypriots were behind the idea 100%, but on practical level the mediator got the impression that people were less inclined towards the idea as there was a certain level of confusion about how things would play out. So if the Greek Cypriots, who had that emotional tug towards the idea were confused and slightly weary, then how must the Turkish Cypriots have felt, who did not have that emotional tug?

They wanted the TCs off the island Natty...How they went about that is in history but the island was not theirs to take and give to Greece.