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Postby Natty » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:22 pm

What puzles me is when that man in documentary (I Apologise I can't remember who it was exactly) spoke about the need to protect the Turkish Cypriots when the British left. Okay In a political sense I can understand, but the way this remark was made it was as though it was felt that the moment the British were to leave all the Greek Cypriots of the Island would have pounced on the Turkish Cypriots massacring them en masse, when there had been no case of any intercommunal conflict at that point! It doesn't make much sense..
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Postby Murataga » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:22 pm

Nikitas wrote:VP et al

the question was simple- why attack civilians in peaceful neighborhoods. You are evading the questions and that shows that eiither you dont know why or you know and dont want to tell. You do not counter enosis by expelling hundreds of people from their homes as happened in 1958 in various Nicosia areas. Nor do you achieve it by stopping GC garbage collectors from picking up TC garbage. This is nonsense to say that it was done against enosis.

Enosis was the excuse, the tactics achieved something totally different. And did it with outright racist means.


The answer is even simpler. You lanched your offensive to annex this island and devastated any and all that stood in the way without concern to their position - GC/TC, civilian/military. You trigerred a response which lead to a bloody conflict. When do you plan to own up to this?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:23 pm

Jerry wrote:VP said:-Taksim was a direct reaction to Enosis,

Well VP what do you think Enosis was a reaction to? Do you think its just possible that it was seen as a defence against Turkish domination of Cyprus.


A dream to gift Cyprus to greece and wipe out the TCs population which was in the way.
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Postby Jerry » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:27 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:VP said:-Taksim was a direct reaction to Enosis,

Well VP what do you think Enosis was a reaction to? Do you think its just possible that it was seen as a defence against Turkish domination of Cyprus.


A dream to gift Cyprus to greece and wipe out the TCs population which
was in the way.


No logic in this response, I'll ignore it, can't you come up with something that makes sense. Read, digest and understand posts before you respond to them.
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Postby Natty » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:29 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:VP said:-Taksim was a direct reaction to Enosis,

Well VP what do you think Enosis was a reaction to? Do you think its just possible that it was seen as a defence against Turkish domination of Cyprus.


A dream to gift Cyprus to greece and wipe out the TCs population which was in the way.


That's where you're wrong VP, there was never any mention of Enosis coming hand in hand with the 'the extermination' of the Turkish Cypriot population…although I can see why many Turkish Cypriots feared that something along those lines would happen, you need only look back at the History of Greece and Turkey at that point to understand..
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:31 pm

Jerry wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:VP said:-Taksim was a direct reaction to Enosis,

Well VP what do you think Enosis was a reaction to? Do you think its just possible that it was seen as a defence against Turkish domination of Cyprus.


A dream to gift Cyprus to greece and wipe out the TCs population which
was in the way.


No logic in this response, I'll ignore it, can't you come up with something that makes sense. Read, digest and understand posts before you respond to them.


No logic according to you because you have one eye shut and do not want to understand that the GC dream to give Cyprus to Greece was what messed things up, they had the opportunity to build and nurture a united Cyprus and 1960 and what did they do? pursue hidden agendas to dominate and ocntrol the whole island still harbouring the original dream to unite with Greece and do away with a large portion of its people.
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:32 pm

Natty wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:VP said:-Taksim was a direct reaction to Enosis,

Well VP what do you think Enosis was a reaction to? Do you think its just possible that it was seen as a defence against Turkish domination of Cyprus.


A dream to gift Cyprus to greece and wipe out the TCs population which was in the way.


That's where you're wrong VP, there was never any mention of Enosis coming hand in hand with the 'the extermination' of the Turkish Cypriot population…although I can see why many Turkish Cypriots feared that something along those lines would happen, you need only look back at the History of Greece and Turkey at that point to understand..


It happened in Crete.......Population exchange and the loss of any rights finally the island.........
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Postby Natty » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:38 pm

zan wrote:
Natty wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:VP said:-Taksim was a direct reaction to Enosis,

Well VP what do you think Enosis was a reaction to? Do you think its just possible that it was seen as a defence against Turkish domination of Cyprus.


A dream to gift Cyprus to greece and wipe out the TCs population which was in the way.


That's where you're wrong VP, there was never any mention of Enosis coming hand in hand with the 'the extermination' of the Turkish Cypriot population…although I can see why many Turkish Cypriots feared that something along those lines would happen, you need only look back at the History of Greece and Turkey at that point to understand..


It happened in Crete.......Population exchange and the loss of any rights finally the island.........


That's why I can understand people's fears Zan. In my opinion the ‘enosis idea’ was not dealt with in a very good way, there was no attempt really to put peoples minds at rest, but it's not entirely fair to compare one Island to another, especially when the circumstances were different…
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:42 pm

Natty wrote:
zan wrote:
Natty wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:VP said:-Taksim was a direct reaction to Enosis,

Well VP what do you think Enosis was a reaction to? Do you think its just possible that it was seen as a defence against Turkish domination of Cyprus.


A dream to gift Cyprus to greece and wipe out the TCs population which was in the way.


That's where you're wrong VP, there was never any mention of Enosis coming hand in hand with the 'the extermination' of the Turkish Cypriot population…although I can see why many Turkish Cypriots feared that something along those lines would happen, you need only look back at the History of Greece and Turkey at that point to understand..


It happened in Crete.......Population exchange and the loss of any rights finally the island.........


That's why I can understand people's fears Zan. In my opinion the ‘enosis idea’ was not dealt with in a very good way, there was no attempt really to put peoples minds at rest, but it's not entirely fair to compare one Island to another, especially when the circumstances were different…


Can you imagine the stories coming out and the killings that went on....Then we see ENOSIS written everywhere and people being killed....
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