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Why do you think no one answers your post? cause its full of shit made up figures plucked out of your arse therefore no one has taken you seriously Elephant man aka Msss Kikapolosusis.

Why do yo make things up as you go along? you have a very vivid imagination and you are full of bullshit...you always predict doom and gloom for TCs if they separate, well hello its been 33 years since that division took place and even under isolation we are here and thats really makes you sick cause yo know you will be long gone and the TRNC will still be in place, as long as there are morons like you we can feel proud that we live in the TRNc where people like you will never live or even pay a visit....viva la TRNC.

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latest polls are:
According to a recent poll conducted by the self-declared Turkish Republic of North Cyprus, 60 per cent of Turkish Cypriots now favour a two-state solution that would see their population permanently separated from their Greek counterparts on the south of the island along the infamous Green Line border that carves the island in two.


http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article3218049.ece

It all depends who actually voted. In actuality, I'm surprised that the number were not higher, much higher in fact, considering settlers who were "converted" to become Turkish Cypriots stands to lose the most except for a 2 Independent State solution, where they get to keep GC properties for free. So let us be generous and remove 25% of the "settlers factor" and you have about 35% True Turkish Cypriots who had voted in this poll. In 2004 Referendum, the "TRNC" voted 65% on the AP, which many GC's saw it as a Partition Plan at the expense of the RoC, which the TC's had everything to gain and very little to lose. So in actuality, the percentages has gone down from 65% in 2004 to 60% now, and if you remove the 25% "settlers factor", it is down to even lower numbers, which is 35%. The real differential numbers from 2004 to 2007 are 30% less True TC's wanting partition or 2 Independent state solution than they did in 2004. Could it be, that majority of the TC's fear being ruled by Ankara, once they achieve an Independent State .???

I think this new poll is actually works against the "TRNC" and the Partitionist wanting a Partition or a 2 Independent State Solution. The reported was also very much reporting what he was fed by the "TRNC" and not having his own information. I mean, how many partitionist really agree with this

"Turkish Cypriots have started to say if they don't want a solution with us, if they don't want to live with us why should we continue to ask to live together, what is the point? A growing number of Turkish Cypriot's are thinking this every day. The walls between the two peoples are growing taller every day."

Since when did the 200,000 GC refugees been offered to come and live in their properties in the "TRNC" in order to make the above claim.

You still have not countered these numbers Miss Piggy. What's the matter, are you afraid that the Partition is not what the True TC want or what.???

I interact with TCs on a daily for the past 15 years, Ill let others decide which of us really knows what TCs want. How often have you interacted with TCs in their own environment? People are not stupid they can see right through your scarcastic and demeaning posts.

Fine, then just counter my figures. It should be easy for you to do so, since you know our people better than me. Don't forget something. What they may tell you in your face, may not be what they do when they vote. They are not stupid to leave themselves open to the "Pigs in Animal Farm" to be taken to the "slaughterHouse" for payback.

You talk shit...

Whats to counter, you make things up as you go along and know nothing about the people who you claim to belong to but of course people doubt this and you are classed as a GC Elephant man aka Msss Kiakapoloshit.

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You forgot to mention you fast becoming a minority on your own turf...but to you and zan is a good thing coz you are all turks...

For you there is no state...as soon as you get absorbed it will be payback big time...Turkey didn't spend all this money for you to parade your ass around he EU suing her...When she says prove your turkishness, you better have lipstick and knee pads ready...or you be walking over to the sth and getting what ever rights you are given...

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You forgot to mention you fast becoming a minority on your own turf...but to you and zan is a good thing coz you are all turks...

For you there is no state...as soon as you get absorbed it will be payback big time...Turkey didn't spend all this money for you to parade your ass around he EU suing her...When she says prove your turkishness, you better have lipstick and knee pads ready...or you be walking over to the sth and getting what ever rights you are given...

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But they will be satin knee pads!

[zan]

utu how long can you try to ignore snide remarks and insults, there comes a time like in 1974 when you have to stand up for what you believe in and fight back.

Like what happened with Expatkiwi? For his pro-independence stance for the north, he ended up getting more than just snide remarks and insults. He faced a direct threat to himself and his family. Not exactly what one expects from a forum.

utu I have faced the same barrage of insults and accusations from GCs and TCs who cannot see or accept that there is different viewpoints on solving the Cyprus problem, they live in some sort of utopia (mostly abroad) and try to dictate to us that we are wrong and what is best for our future. Well what I suggest to those people are firstly return to Cyprus north or south and then decide with more insight to what actually goes on here, see first hand that neither side has any intention of solving jack shit because they lack vision, understanding or courage to compromise in order to find a solution. The opposite to unification is agreed partition which is not as bad as people try to make out it is, we are 90% of the way there anyway.

Since you are so smart and most TC living in the UK and the "TRNC" wants Partition, why have you not proposed to take the 18% and be done with it. You know by now, that the RoC is not going to give you more or allow any formal recognition to the North, so why are you waiting. Why doesn't Talat make a proposal to PapaD and make an even break. Hell, PapaD might even round it up to 20% if you asked nicely. You tell us it's about controlling your own destiny and keeping stolen land is not your aim, then make the proposal. Then you can have whom ever you wished in your "country". As soon as the deal is signed, Kifeas and his crew will start building the 20ft wall for once and for good. From then on, you will be on your own, in bed with Turkey or whom ever, will be your choice entirely. So simple, make the request and see what happens. You are now talking about an "Agreed Partition", since you have given up on the "Forced Partition" because no one is willing to help you get it, and rather than be seen as " Pirates of the Mediterranean", it will do you good to do something honest for a change.

I've changed my mind...If you are not Greek then I will eat your boat...If you've really got one that is.....We are not asking anymore big boy..We are demanding our rights.....The day that you voted OXI to the Annan Plan we woke up. No more sleeping.

If it wasn't for Miss Piggy, I would have missed your post. I noticed she did not answer my post either.

Zan, for you to be able to eat my boat, you would need to have a BIG MOUTH......then again, I'm keeping my boat away from you.!!!

Here I am making the most logical suggestion that everyone can walk away happy without a shot being fired that Partitionist want, and that is to take part of Cyprus and be on your own. It does not mean all the TC's will follow you to a 3rd world style of government where the "Pigs will rule the Animal Farm" type of system. No sir, those who do not wish to follow you wanting to go backwards in time, we can choose where we want to stay. You will be surprised just how many TC's will chose to stay with the RoC. No need to insult these TC's who love their country of Cyprus, and do not wish to live in "Turkey" without even leaving the island..

OH STOP Talking rubbish...You have no idea what the TCs want and you are making up figures once again. I have spoken to many that, just like my self, say that ideally they would love a unified Cyprus and no borders but not the "RoC" way. You seem to hear what you want to hear. Tell your leader to stop wanting the whole island as a GC one and then perhaps we can talk but until then you can see the TC people living where they want to and that is in the TRNC/KKTC where they belong and feel safe. Look at reality lover and stop your distorted rubbish...

[zan]

You forgot to mention you fast becoming a minority on your own turf...but to you and zan is a good thing coz you are all turks...

For you there is no state...as soon as you get absorbed it will be payback big time...Turkey didn't spend all this money for you to parade your ass around he EU suing her...When she says prove your turkishness, you better have lipstick and knee pads ready...or you be walking over to the sth and getting what ever rights you are given...

One lives in OZ and the other in his own mind and they are telling me what my people want...

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But they will be satin knee pads!

All this bullshit cause we want to be equals and requst a level playing field, what you see fit for yourselves why cant you treat us as equals and allow us to move forward?

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All this bullshit cause we want to be equals and requst a level playing field, what you see fit for yourselves why cant you treat us as equals and allow us to move forward?

as soon as you allow people to reclaim their homes at will...and let democrasy take its course...a fair deal in my books...what do you say?..a deal?

ps....now comes the obstacle course...

[zan]

But they will be satin knee pads!

All this bullshit cause we want to be equals and requst a level playing field, what you see fit for yourselves why cant you treat us as equals and allow us to move forward?

Seehttp://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14648


We will get it VP......The opposition to Tpap was interviewed today and he said that he would not change the "RoC" policy........I am all but given up on any kind of unification and it seems the GCs have as well if that is the answer they are going to give the world...They are fed up with GC tricks and we will have our own country recognised....