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Postby zan » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:15 am

[quote="johbee"]The only problem is the illegal occupation by Turkey. We have a legitimate government and there are so many UN resolutions calling for the withdrawal of the illegal regime. The only solution is for the withdrawal of the occupation forces and the illegal settlers. I can't understand what all the negotiating is about. Turkey GET OUT. Plain and simple.[/quote]


Then you need to do a bit more to understand what has happened to the original Cyprus Republic and do something about this puppet state called the "RoC". Ask for the return to the Zurich agreement and the true Cyprus.
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Postby johbee » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:21 am

Well Zan it's a bit like Mexico wanting an independent country in the US. Cyprus is a legitimate country and is a member of the EU. What happened in the past does not concern me. What should happen is for the Turkish troops to withdraw and the Turkish Cypriots to accept the democracy as it stands today and become active members of a democracy. A puppet? Of who? The EU, UK, Greece???
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Postby zan » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:32 am

[quote="johbee"]Well Zan it's a bit like Mexico wanting an independent country in the US. Cyprus is a legitimate country and is a member of the EU. What happened in the past does not concern me. What should happen is for the Turkish troops to withdraw and the Turkish Cypriots to accept the democracy as it stands today and become active members of a democracy. A puppet? Of who? The EU, UK, Greece???[/quote]

If the past does not concern you then neither should the future. Mending something requires you to know the reason for why it broke so that you not only can account for it but stop it happening again. It is also a prerequisite to fairness.

The second part of your question needs no answer as you well know who by the vain effort you put into disguising the party in question. :roll:
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Postby boomerang » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:16 pm

Ask for the return to the Zurich agreement and the true Cyprus.


You should be asking for your rights...It's your rights violated by Turkey...They took our ancestral lands but sure as hell didn't stick us in a hole...
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:53 pm

zan wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:I do believe that I will. By the way, Utu is right: you are being more abusive than analytic in your postings as of late. Not good for healthy debate...

What do you mean "Lately".... :wink: :lol:

:lol: You opportunistic animal!
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:58 pm

boomerang wrote:
Ask for the return to the Zurich agreement and the true Cyprus.


You should be asking for your rights...It's your rights violated by Turkey...They took our ancestral lands but sure as hell didn't stick us in a hole...

Funnily enough yesterday he started off asking for the 59 agreements, then he suddenly didn't want anything to do with the RoC, and today he is back to asking for them again!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

And we're supposed to give these complete lunatics seats in the government!!!

God help us if you exist...
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:02 pm

johbee wrote:The only problem is the illegal occupation by Turkey. We have a legitimate government and there are so many UN resolutions calling for the withdrawal of the illegal regime. The only solution is for the withdrawal of the occupation forces and the illegal settlers. I can't understand what all the negotiating is about. Turkey GET OUT. Plain and simple.


So once the Turkish army just pack and leave everything will be OK?
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:02 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:I do believe that I will. By the way, Utu is right: you are being more abusive than analytic in your postings as of late. Not good for healthy debate...

When you have three dozen idiots, all over the Cypriot online community, posting the biggest heap of bullshit ever seen in the history of political debate, one tends to tire correcting them all the time!

If people were HONEST there would be a lot fewer problems on the planet and I can only keep dreaming…
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Postby MR-from-NG » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:34 pm

johbee wrote:The only problem is the illegal occupation by Turkey. We have a legitimate government and there are so many UN resolutions calling for the withdrawal of the illegal regime. The only solution is for the withdrawal of the occupation forces and the illegal settlers. I can't understand what all the negotiating is about. Turkey GET OUT. Plain and simple.


You'd do really well as a stand-up comedian :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby DT. » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:40 pm

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
EPSILON wrote:[intent.......Tallat has said it and you do not want to hear it. Ban Ki moon has said it in a diplomatic way and you close your eyes and count to ten....BOOO! :roll:


A small clarification is hereby requested please. Who is this person named Tallat? Does he or can he play any role in Cyprus problem.Maybe you are speaking about this person in South who waiting or getting orders from the Generals? Even low army officers deciding whether EU representatives can visit a cerain area in South or not>?Do you speak about this certain person or someone else?

A second clarification please. Tcs staying in South or these abroad can they play any role or can have a word on Cyprus problem? May be you have to ask the chief of invasion army before you reply in this question


Just before the Annan Plan referendum, Greece threatened to use it's veto, on the ten or so countries that were waiting to be given the green light in joining the EU, if the "RoC" were not let in as well........Who is this person called Tpap?????? :roll:


you need to lean the difference between an ally and a boss Zan.




And you need to learn the difference between truth and bullshit :roll:[/quote]

Why?

There's no mistaking that Turkey calls the shots in the north Zan i there? There might be a level of micromanagement by the TC's but even you must understand that Turkey needs to provide suggestion, approval and funding for nearly all decisions over there.

By bullshit do you mean that the ROC is instructed in the same way by Greece???

Or is that one-liner you posted just a template reaction?
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