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[boulio]

I was wondering something and im not trying to inflame sentiments on this forum or claim enosis or in no way does this represent the ideas and desires of the g/c people but just a thought.

today in the turkish daily news,the commander of the turkish land forces harshly critized the AKP govt for underdfunding and support of modern equipment for the Turkish forces on cyprus.

In A hypothetical sitution and if the generals claims are true(it is reported in many defence mags.that the turkish equipment in cyprus,even though american are very old american ei m-48,m-113.If someone on the other side had a well planned attack(ala israel in the six day war of 1967) and suprised the turkish forces and captured large areas of the north and turkey through the EU or UN or greek deterance did not allow turkish reinforcments to reach the island and if a cease-fire were called,obviously the balance of power on the island has shifted.

my question is, would the G/C still advocate a bi zonal federal model for cyprus or would they want a unitary state with the t/c with minority rights and what things that were in the annan plan would they seek for complete change or obolishment.

again gentlmen this is all hypothetical and in no way does this represent my wishes or im sure the g/c wishes but just to see what the demeands be if the tables were turned.

and no insan this is not what we all sit around and conspire to take back the north but just to see if the role was reversed.

[Saint Jimmy]

Ummm...

Well, even if the entire universe conspired and such a scenario came true, my view would not have changed. Because the reason I advocate bi-zonality as a basis for a solution is not the adverse balance of power, but the validity of TCs' concerns/fears. And our part in the creation of these concerns/fears will not have changed, even if we become intergalactic emperors.

(of course, I know that talk is cheap; and this is just talk. But, you asked a hypothetical question, and you get a hypothetical answer.)

[insan]

and no insan this is not what we all sit around and conspire to take back the north but just to see if the role was reversed.

I'm your obsession, boulio... I know... I don't have to believe what you say and you don't have to believe what I say. There's no need for any other explanations. Ok?

Keep your nerdily reactions; such as "There's no boundaries of your Hellene hatred." for yourself. It does not make any sense. Ok?

[cannedmoose]

In A hypothetical sitution...

Boulio my friend, there's hypothetical and then there's parallel universe territory.

The fact is that even if the equipment operated by Turkish forces isn't latest generation, the RoC forces are still no match. It is highly unlikely that any GC offensive would get much further than the other side of the buffer zone without being spotted (and since offensives require manoeuvre and planning, it will have been spotted by Turkish reconnaissance long before). Then, without any air cover, the forces would be open to bombing by aircraft based on the mainland and by attacks in the rear from Turkish paratroopers.

So... such a hypothetical attack would only be counter-productive for the GCs. It would damn them in the eyes of the international community, who I feel would be unable to restrain a counter-offensive from Turkey, which would likely result in the complete capture of Lefkosia and the rest of the east of the island.

Some hypothetical scenarios are useful, sorry, but this one isn't.

[boulio]

the hypothetical part would acctually be the attack,the real motive of setting up the hypothetical part would be what would happen afterwards like would the g/c still be focused on a bi-zonal federation which jimmy aswered yes,moose you answered the topic in a way that would be realistic today and ofcourse insan just answered something insanian.the whole topic was the afterwards part what would the g/c do if like piratis has said many times the balance of power changed, i mean i could have written that turkey will be in a cival war with the kurds and cannot focus and abanded there cyprus causes and what would be the after effects on cyprus.

[insan]

ofcourse insan just answered something stupid.

If you state something stupid about me in your topic of course you get the answer you have deserved.

[boulio]

i edited it from stupid to insanian,you t/c are a bit prickly latley.

[Saint Jimmy]

and no insan this is not what we all sit around and conspire to take back the north but just to see if the role was reversed.

ofcourse insan just answered something stupid

Man, I don't mean to either interfere in whatever it is you guys have got going here, or to sound like a wise-ass, but are either of you getting a kick out of this?
I just don't see the reason...

I'm only telling you this because from where I'm sitting, you lit the fuse in this topic with that first comment. I can safely say that this is not the way to convince Insan of what is obvious to us - that there is no conspiracy or any hidden agendas regarding enosis.

[boulio]

and i edited it jimmy, does insan need a lawyer?

[Saint Jimmy]

and i edited it jimmy, does insan need a lawyer?

OK, my bad, man, I hadn't seen your edit till I posted. I'm not being Insan's lawyer man, and of course he doesn't need one, but whatever it is you've got against each other is pretty useless (=of no use).
I don't see what reason you guys have to keep it up.
Anyway, no more interfering from me. Sorry!