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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:22 pm

Piratis wrote:Most of the GCs that regularly visit the occupied areas for a "nice day out" are people of the underworld. The casinos over there make a fortune out of those fools.

Those that wanted to see their homes they visited once and never did again because it was too depressive for them.


So all the those bus loads of GCs coming accross are from the underworld, man you train them young, there are 5 year olds :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:04 pm

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I appear to be the only person who has come home after 30 years of living abroad .



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You did not even do that Miss Piggy. Had you returned to the land and Country of your Cypriot Parents, which is Republic of Cyprus, then you could make that claim, but you went somewhere you have no roots at all, a place called the "TRNC", so in essence, you might as well have returned to Italy, France or Spain.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:26 pm

kalahari wrote:
I'm not so sure that your life would be that bad if you did move south over the border – refer back to Kikapu's excellent series of essays when he came back. (Was it Kikapu? I think it was.) \

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Kalahari,

Thanks for remembering and complimenting on what I wrote on my visit to my Birth Country of Cyprus. After returning 43 years since my departure under difficult circumstances back in 1964, I had the chance to visit and speak to the GC people at every opportunity I had. It was a very rewarding experience since Cypriots by nature are very friendly and warm. My problem in going to the RoC was before I went, by all the poison and ill feelings expressed on the forum by the Racist Propagandist Partitionist. Attempts were made to "shame" me for going to my country by these same people, then resisted everything I wrote as not being true. Just look what Zan wrote here;

Zan wrote:We have a duty and a history that allows us to think that way and the simple story that Kikapu wrote insults the mind as does your assumptions. We do not see the GC people on the street as the threat but the administration and the system


If Zan does not have a problem with GC people on the street, then why did he and few others had problem with my story, because after all, that's with whom I spent my time with, the average GC on the street and not the Administration at large. Even the GC RoC employee at the Land Registry Office was the nicest Bureaucrat I have ever dealt with anytime in my life in all the countries I have ever lived in. Some of these Partitionist speak with "Fork Tongue" I'm afraid, so you can never take them very seriously.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:47 pm

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I appear to be the only person who has come home after 30 years of living abroad .


You did not even do that Miss Piggy. Had you returned to the land and Country of your Cypriot Parents, which is Republic of Cyprus, then you could make that claim, but you went somewhere you have no roots at all, a place called the "TRNC", so in essence, you might as well have returned to Italy, France or Spain.


Thats your opinion and this case what I feel is more importnant than any twist you want to put on it. The TRNc is home where the TCs live and feel safe, I know this make you sick to our core but thats how it is and will be until people like you realize that we never submit to GCs demands that will take away our community rights and leave us to the mercy of GCs. This is something you will never understand as you have not been back to interact with your own ethnic kind, all you saw was a tourists sees in the GC state called the "RoC" and thats all you will ever be to Cyprus a tourist and not even a good one at that.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:55 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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I appear to be the only person who has come home after 30 years of living abroad .


You did not even do that Miss Piggy. Had you returned to the land and Country of your Cypriot Parents, which is Republic of Cyprus, then you could make that claim, but you went somewhere you have no roots at all, a place called the "TRNC", so in essence, you might as well have returned to Italy, France or Spain.


Thats your opinion and this case what I feel is more importnant than any twist you want to put on it. The TRNc is home where the TCs live and feel safe, I know this make you sick to our core but thats how it is and will be until people like you realize that we never submit to GCs demands that will take away our community rights and leave us to the mercy of GCs. This is something you will never understand as you have not been back to interact with your own ethnic kind, all you saw was a tourists sees in the GC state called the "RoC" and thats all you will ever be to Cyprus a tourist and not even a good one at that.



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I was just answering your statement, that's all. No need to go into what the "TRNC" means to you. That's another subject altogether.

I know you have heard of Green Lanes in London.!! I get to speak with all the TC's I want there, so yes, I'm in touch with my people.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:03 am

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
I appear to be the only person who has come home after 30 years of living abroad .


You did not even do that Miss Piggy. Had you returned to the land and Country of your Cypriot Parents, which is Republic of Cyprus, then you could make that claim, but you went somewhere you have no roots at all, a place called the "TRNC", so in essence, you might as well have returned to Italy, France or Spain.


Thats your opinion and this case what I feel is more importnant than any twist you want to put on it. The TRNc is home where the TCs live and feel safe, I know this make you sick to our core but thats how it is and will be until people like you realize that we never submit to GCs demands that will take away our community rights and leave us to the mercy of GCs. This is something you will never understand as you have not been back to interact with your own ethnic kind, all you saw was a tourists sees in the GC state called the "RoC" and thats all you will ever be to Cyprus a tourist and not even a good one at that.


I was just answering your statement, that's all. No need to go into what the "TRNC" means to you. That's another subject altogether.

I know you have heard of Green Lanes in London.!! I get to speak with all the TC's I want there, so yes, I'm in touch with my people.


SO you talk to TCs in London, well done Im sure you get a feel of the TRNC from Norf London, Elephant Man...you are a lost cause, noway we can ever make you are normal unbiased person, your hate for anything Turkish includes the people you claim are your people.


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Postby zan » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:34 am

Kikapu wrote:
kalahari wrote:
I'm not so sure that your life would be that bad if you did move south over the border – refer back to Kikapu's excellent series of essays when he came back. (Was it Kikapu? I think it was.) \

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Kalahari,

Thanks for remembering and complimenting on what I wrote on my visit to my Birth Country of Cyprus. After returning 43 years since my departure under difficult circumstances back in 1964, I had the chance to visit and speak to the GC people at every opportunity I had. It was a very rewarding experience since Cypriots by nature are very friendly and warm. My problem in going to the RoC was before I went, by all the poison and ill feelings expressed on the forum by the Racist Propagandist Partitionist. Attempts were made to "shame" me for going to my country by these same people, then resisted everything I wrote as not being true. Just look what Zan wrote here;

Zan wrote:We have a duty and a history that allows us to think that way and the simple story that Kikapu wrote insults the mind as does your assumptions. We do not see the GC people on the street as the threat but the administration and the system


If Zan does not have a problem with GC people on the street, then why did he and few others had problem with my story, because after all, that's with whom I spent my time with, the average GC on the street and not the Administration at large. Even the GC RoC employee at the Land Registry Office was the nicest Bureaucrat I have ever dealt with anytime in my life in all the countries I have ever lived in. Some of these Partitionist speak with "Fork Tongue" I'm afraid, so you can never take them very seriously.


Simply because you are a lier and a crappy writer. The second gave away the first........ :roll:
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Postby halil » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:16 pm

kalahari wrote:Halil, you make a very good point.

I have made a decision not to cross the border. Am I right in this decision or not? Please tell me what you think.
It is your choice cross the border or not . To judge something with others sayings will lead u in wrong directions . Again i repeat come and mix with local people . Why they left their loved homes in 1975 and what is the reasone that they don't want to go back to live in South Cyprus , Why they goes for a work or they visit South . While they are visiting south or working at south what is their feelings and fears ? I am not going to write anything or comments .Pls try to find all these answers by crossing the boarder .

Why did I make this decision? I am completely opposed to the presence of the Turks in Northern Cyprus. I cannot see any good reason for their presence. I also find the apathy of the caretaker nations (and come to that the EU and UN) repugnant in this matter.

First of all Northern Cyprus is the home of the Turkish Cypriots. I was born at Northern Cyprus in 1957. I am not going to tell again about past.
Didn't u know that EU , UN, Britain ,USA , Germany , France ,Australia has got offices in Northern Cyprus.

If u mean that u have no reason presence of the Turkish Troops in North it is your free will.Remember it is not the only Turkish Troops are in Cyprus. How about Greek Troops from Greece . What are they doing here . They were here before 74 with thousands . They have been in action in 64 , 67 and 74 . Sorry i wasn't going to talk about past but u made me to do.


I feel that to cross the border and to trade with the people in the north would be hypocritical of me. Although I have to admit my mind is slowly changing on this matter. To make matters worse in this personal struggle of mine, I have visited Turkey on occasions and found the native Turkish to be some of the nicest people it has ever been my good fortune to meet. I always tell my Greek Cypriot friends this too. I am nothing if not honest. I resolve this dilemma in my mind by placing the blame for the continued presence of the Turkish troops at the feet of the Denktash regime and the Turkish generals.

I didn't ask u and do trade with us . Come and do your own research at North.Be your own boss . I am no telling your ideas are wrong or right .
discover it with your own eyes.

I guess what I'm saying is that I feel it would be treacherous of me to go into the North. And perhaps that's the reason why Iceman won't go back to Limassol and Zan won't go back to Cyprus.

Again u can find your answers What Iceman was trying to say . Just pass the border .

Is my feeling of treachery – to my beliefs and my friends – a good enough reason? What are your thoughts?
I don't think it is a treachery .
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:34 pm

zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
kalahari wrote:
I'm not so sure that your life would be that bad if you did move south over the border – refer back to Kikapu's excellent series of essays when he came back. (Was it Kikapu? I think it was.) \

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Kalahari,

Thanks for remembering and complimenting on what I wrote on my visit to my Birth Country of Cyprus. After returning 43 years since my departure under difficult circumstances back in 1964, I had the chance to visit and speak to the GC people at every opportunity I had. It was a very rewarding experience since Cypriots by nature are very friendly and warm. My problem in going to the RoC was before I went, by all the poison and ill feelings expressed on the forum by the Racist Propagandist Partitionist. Attempts were made to "shame" me for going to my country by these same people, then resisted everything I wrote as not being true. Just look what Zan wrote here;

Zan wrote:We have a duty and a history that allows us to think that way and the simple story that Kikapu wrote insults the mind as does your assumptions. We do not see the GC people on the street as the threat but the administration and the system


If Zan does not have a problem with GC people on the street, then why did he and few others had problem with my story, because after all, that's with whom I spent my time with, the average GC on the street and not the Administration at large. Even the GC RoC employee at the Land Registry Office was the nicest Bureaucrat I have ever dealt with anytime in my life in all the countries I have ever lived in. Some of these Partitionist speak with "Fork Tongue" I'm afraid, so you can never take them very seriously.


Simply because you are a lier and a crappy writer. The second gave away the first........ :roll:


Poor Zan,

You are once again got caught in your "double talk". You see Zan, I remember what is written in the forum, so I tend to give you Partitionist a lot of rope, because I know you will Hang yourself when you walk over the "trap doors". So you are once again trying to wiggle out of your own pile of shit that got yourself all over from Kik-a-Poo. Now I know you lie on occasions and I have thrown it in your face, Miss Piggy's and Mr. Frog's, but you are yet to tell us what is it that I lied about in my Cyprus Report. So why don't you tell Kalahari what those lies are. As for my writing, I never claimed to be a writer, so once again what are you complaining about. Besides, Lena had me on a dead line to get it finished, was the best I could do under such pressure. :lol: You did not pay to read it, and you did not walk away from it either. As matter of fact, you and Miss Piggy couldn't get enough of it. You two fools made the Cyprus Report almost into New York's Best Sellers List. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I can't thank you two fools enough. :wink: :wink:

Let remind you what was it that you told Kalahari;

Zan wrote:We do not see the GC people on the street as the threat but the administration and the system


And what was my Cyprus Report all about you fool. It was about being with the GC people ( and some TC's) on one to one basis in the RoC. So where is the lie. So come on Zan, tell Kalahari the truth, or else he is going to think all TC's lie and might not even go the "TRNC" as a result. Come on Big Man, lets see what you're made off. Is it all mouth or are you going to give us some clue what the lies are.
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Postby Sotos » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:34 pm

First of all Northern Cyprus is the home of the Turkish Cypriots. I was born at Northern Cyprus in 1957.

My home is also in the occupied areas and 80% of the population there are Greek Cypriots. So don't tell me north Cyprus is the home of Turkish Cypriots. It is our home much much more than it is yours you fucking thief.
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