Murataga wrote:Nikitas wrote:"The Ottomans took island from the Venetians not the GCs. They fought the Venetians not the GCs. "
I have heard this bullshit argument many times in the past and never responsed because I assumed the posters knew it was bullshit.
If the GCs formed the bulk of the population under the Venetians that should ring the bells in the brain of most intelligent people to lead them to ask, where did all these Greek Orthodox subjects of the Venetians come from?
Well they were the indigenous population of the island since before the Venetians. That is why in Cyprus we have Helennistic monuments, and churches dating back to the earliest Christian times. The contention that the Turks did not take the island from its indigenous people but from some passing overlord reflects negatively on the people making this argument. It shows their true inner colonialist self. It is like England sayng it did not take Germany's African colonies from the Africans but from its German colonialists. It is not a wise argument to use in the 21st century. According to this thinking Namibia should not be free but should revert to Germany, which is bullshit.
Greek Cypriots are not indigenous, unlike Africans in Africa. So it is like Germans claiming they are African and that England took Africa from them as Africans. GCs arrived from Greece and continued to live as Greeks, they identified and called themselves Greeks, they have recently launched an offensive to join with Greece, and ever since they stepped foot on this island they continue to live by Greek principles, interests, policies, ideals, culture language, religion... A name change does not do the job for promoting their criminal agenda of Hellenizing this island.Nikitas wrote:Then there is that crap that the island never belonged to Greece. Well Greece as a state did not exist before 1829. And Turkey did not exist before 1923. So Turkey could not have been the overlord of Cyprus either.
IT is time to let this bullshit aside. The pressing problem exists today when Turkey wants to impose Taksim and Enosis on the north. And the question is what are the TCs going to to do about it. They either accept or reject, there is no third way here. Until that choice is made the rest is debating society stuff.
The pressing problem exists today is the criminal GC regime`s persistence on their theft and usurpation against the TCs and destroying the rights of the TCs of this island. What are YOU doing about it ?
The grand conclusion from the above, is that Turks and TCs are NOT indigenous to anywhere . . .
The closest we have to an indigenous population, by your principles Murataga, is STILL the GC population.
By a process of elimination . . . TCs and Turks would have no rightful / historical claim to Cyprus; and if the GCs wish it to remain Hellenized . . . that is their prerogative not yours.