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Postby phoenix » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:35 pm

Murataga wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"The Ottomans took island from the Venetians not the GCs. They fought the Venetians not the GCs. "

I have heard this bullshit argument many times in the past and never responsed because I assumed the posters knew it was bullshit.

If the GCs formed the bulk of the population under the Venetians that should ring the bells in the brain of most intelligent people to lead them to ask, where did all these Greek Orthodox subjects of the Venetians come from?

Well they were the indigenous population of the island since before the Venetians. That is why in Cyprus we have Helennistic monuments, and churches dating back to the earliest Christian times. The contention that the Turks did not take the island from its indigenous people but from some passing overlord reflects negatively on the people making this argument. It shows their true inner colonialist self. It is like England sayng it did not take Germany's African colonies from the Africans but from its German colonialists. It is not a wise argument to use in the 21st century. According to this thinking Namibia should not be free but should revert to Germany, which is bullshit.


Greek Cypriots are not indigenous, unlike Africans in Africa. So it is like Germans claiming they are African and that England took Africa from them as Africans. GCs arrived from Greece and continued to live as Greeks, they identified and called themselves Greeks, they have recently launched an offensive to join with Greece, and ever since they stepped foot on this island they continue to live by Greek principles, interests, policies, ideals, culture language, religion... A name change does not do the job for promoting their criminal agenda of Hellenizing this island.


Nikitas wrote:Then there is that crap that the island never belonged to Greece. Well Greece as a state did not exist before 1829. And Turkey did not exist before 1923. So Turkey could not have been the overlord of Cyprus either.

IT is time to let this bullshit aside. The pressing problem exists today when Turkey wants to impose Taksim and Enosis on the north. And the question is what are the TCs going to to do about it. They either accept or reject, there is no third way here. Until that choice is made the rest is debating society stuff.



The pressing problem exists today is the criminal GC regime`s persistence on their theft and usurpation against the TCs and destroying the rights of the TCs of this island. What are YOU doing about it ?


The grand conclusion from the above, is that Turks and TCs are NOT indigenous to anywhere . . . :lol:

The closest we have to an indigenous population, by your principles Murataga, is STILL the GC population.

By a process of elimination . . . TCs and Turks would have no rightful / historical claim to Cyprus; and if the GCs wish it to remain Hellenized . . . that is their prerogative not yours.
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Postby shahmaran » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:35 pm

Well screw you very much Piratis, this is my island too god damn it and im not living under no GC rule, and there is nothing you can do about it but bitch here with your semi-intellectual/accurate stories...
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Postby paaul12 » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:41 pm

What is the TRNC?

That’s an easy one, don’t you know?

It is The Turkish Republic of North Cyprus


The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) (Turkish: Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti, KKTC), commonly called Northern Cyprus, is a de facto independent republic,[1][2][3] located in the north of Cyprus. The TRNC declared its independence in 1983, nine years after a Greek Cypriot coup attempting to annex the island to Greece triggered a Turkish intervention of Cyprus.

The Turkish Army maintains a force in the TRNC, which the Republic of Cyprus regards as an illegal occupation force; Attempts to reach a solution to the dispute have so far been unsuccessful. In 2004 a UN backed plan to reunite the island was accepted by Turkish Cypriots in a referendum, but rejected by Greek Cypriots.

The TRNC extends from the tip of the Karpass Peninsula (Cape Apostolos Andreas) in the northeast, westward to Morphou Bay and Cape Kormakitis (the Kokkina/Erenköy exclave marks the westernmost extent of the TRNC), and southward to the village of Louroujina/Akıncılar. The no man's land or buffer zone stretching between the two areas is under the control of the United Nations.
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Postby phoenix » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:04 pm

paaul12 wrote:What is the TRNC?

That’s an easy one, don’t you know?

It is The Turkish Republic of North Cyprus


The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) (Turkish: Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti, KKTC), commonly called Northern Cyprus, is a de facto independent republic,[1][2][3] located in the north of Cyprus. The TRNC declared its independence in 1983, nine years after a Greek Cypriot coup attempting to annex the island to Greece triggered a Turkish intervention of Cyprus.

The Turkish Army maintains a force in the TRNC, which the Republic of Cyprus regards as an illegal occupation force; Attempts to reach a solution to the dispute have so far been unsuccessful. In 2004 a UN backed plan to reunite the island was accepted by Turkish Cypriots in a referendum, but rejected by Greek Cypriots.

The TRNC extends from the tip of the Karpass Peninsula (Cape Apostolos Andreas) in the northeast, westward to Morphou Bay and Cape Kormakitis (the Kokkina/Erenköy exclave marks the westernmost extent of the TRNC), and southward to the village of Louroujina/Akıncılar. The no man's land or buffer zone stretching between the two areas is under the control of the United Nations.
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This is an outdated Turkish proposal which has been rejected by all the countries of the World. :roll:

The civilised world is not interested anymore, in creating yet more divisions, and any more "no man's land".

You are too late with your proposals, and are looking foolish on the World stage. Stop harping on and accept re-unification, and apologise for your mistakes, and we will put it down to a simple aberration caused by a reversion to your familiar-barbaric ways.
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Postby paaul12 » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:15 pm

This is an outdated Turkish proposal which has been rejected by all the countries of the World.


r u sure u ment 2 say "ALL the countries of the world" as u know that is not correct, is it :lol: :lol:
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Postby Piratis » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:37 am

Greek Cypriots are not indigenous, unlike Africans in Africa.


So based on your logic only Africans can be indigenous, and for every other part of the world the Turks should have the divine right to invade, slaughter its people and steal the land.

Well, I have news for you my friend: You do not have such right. Maybe that was the norm during and before the Middle Ages but not anymore.

Despite what you have done to us in the past, we are willing to forgive you, as long as you finally stop committing crimes against us and occupying our land. Then the members of your minority can be equal Cypriot and EU citizens. Unlike you, we do not want to limit your human or democratic rights, nor gain on your loss using lame excuses. All we want is freedom from foreign troops and the right to finally rule and decide the destiny of our own island in a democratic way without foreign intervention.

Unfortunately what you want is to violate our rights, steal our lands, and Turkify a big part of our country by means of invasion and ethnic cleansing. You can try to do this using brute force, but you know very well that we have justice on our side and your cheap excuses will not help now as they have not helped you in the past.
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Postby paaul12 » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:40 am

Piratis wrote:

All we want is freedom from foreign troops


do you mean greek troops?
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Postby phoenix » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:46 am

paaul12 wrote:
This is an outdated Turkish proposal which has been rejected by all the countries of the World.


r u sure u ment 2 say "ALL the countries of the world" as u know that is not correct, is it :lol: :lol:


It is an outdated Turkish proposal which has been rejected by all the countries of the World.

That is 100% correct. No other country recognises this Turkish proposal for a new division.

The World is moving towards cohesion . . . only Turkey goes against the grain of current thinking.
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Postby zan » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:41 am

phoenix wrote:
paaul12 wrote:
This is an outdated Turkish proposal which has been rejected by all the countries of the World.


r u sure u ment 2 say "ALL the countries of the world" as u know that is not correct, is it :lol: :lol:


It is an outdated Turkish proposal which has been rejected by all the countries of the World.

That is 100% correct. No other country recognises this Turkish proposal for a new division.

The World is moving towards cohesion . . . only Turkey goes against the grain of current thinking.



And that is why YOU are out on an international limb and we are making ground..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:
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Postby phoenix » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:54 am

zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:
paaul12 wrote:
This is an outdated Turkish proposal which has been rejected by all the countries of the World.


r u sure u ment 2 say "ALL the countries of the world" as u know that is not correct, is it :lol: :lol:


It is an outdated Turkish proposal which has been rejected by all the countries of the World.

That is 100% correct. No other country recognises this Turkish proposal for a new division.

The World is moving towards cohesion . . . only Turkey goes against the grain of current thinking.



And that is why YOU are out on an international limb and we are making ground..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:


So we have on the one hand the World including Cyprus, and on the other Turkey by itself, and you are saying WE are out on a limb?

I think Turkey very much wants to join the gang for fun . . . but like the lonely, isolated bully, it does not know how to be nice, to be liked.
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