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Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:23 pm

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Get Real! wrote:Come off it Zan, the GCs survived a full blown invasion and ethnic cleansing in 1974 and yet look at them today! The TCs on the other hand found everything for free and yet today they're still in the 3rd world... what does that tell you about the Turkish ways?



You do talk crap sometimes GR...Did I say sometimes :shock: :lol:

You use every trick in the book or the article called the Akritas Plan, to hold us under siege and then you critisise us for not progressing when you take all the resources of the island and sell it off. This line is not working anymore GR...The people of the world know what you are doing and the shit you spew out is just coming back at you as we speak....

Give it up Zanny! Anytime you're ready let me know and I'll arrange for you to kiss Tpap's butt in the hope that he'll forgive you and you can join the winner's circle! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby zan » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:29 pm

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Get Real! wrote:Come off it Zan, the GCs survived a full blown invasion and ethnic cleansing in 1974 and yet look at them today! The TCs on the other hand found everything for free and yet today they're still in the 3rd world... what does that tell you about the Turkish ways?



You do talk crap sometimes GR...Did I say sometimes :shock: :lol:

You use every trick in the book or the article called the Akritas Plan, to hold us under siege and then you critisise us for not progressing when you take all the resources of the island and sell it off. This line is not working anymore GR...The people of the world know what you are doing and the shit you spew out is just coming back at you as we speak....

Give it up Zanny! Anytime you're ready let me know and I'll arrange for you to kiss Tpap's butt in the hope that he'll forgive you and you can join the winner's circle! :lol: :lol: :lol:


The game is changing fast GR...Kising Tpaps' butt is never going to happen so you can tell him to pull his skirt down. As usual you are claiming an empty victory long before the final whistle. So many people have told you that but it seems the substance needed to stop the information from going in one ear and out the other is missing.... 8) :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:35 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Come off it Zan, the GCs survived a full blown invasion and ethnic cleansing in 1974 and yet look at them today! The TCs on the other hand found everything for free and yet today they're still in the 3rd world... what does that tell you about the Turkish ways?



You do talk crap sometimes GR...Did I say sometimes :shock: :lol:

You use every trick in the book or the article called the Akritas Plan, to hold us under siege and then you critisise us for not progressing when you take all the resources of the island and sell it off. This line is not working anymore GR...The people of the world know what you are doing and the shit you spew out is just coming back at you as we speak....

Give it up Zanny! Anytime you're ready let me know and I'll arrange for you to kiss Tpap's butt in the hope that he'll forgive you and you can join the winner's circle! :lol: :lol: :lol:


The game is changing fast GR...Kising Tpaps' butt is never going to happen so you can tell him to pull his skirt down. As usual you are claiming an empty victory long before the final whistle. So many people have told you that but it seems the substance needed to stop the information from going in one ear and out the other is missing.... 8) :lol:

Yeah, 33 years on and you've just managed to install a decent power generator albeit much smaller than you initially planned! :lol: Have you since gotten a bigger crane? :lol:

When will you realize that without the GCs you're doomed! We are the spring from which you flow....Image

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Postby zan » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:41 pm

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Come off it Zan, the GCs survived a full blown invasion and ethnic cleansing in 1974 and yet look at them today! The TCs on the other hand found everything for free and yet today they're still in the 3rd world... what does that tell you about the Turkish ways?



You do talk crap sometimes GR...Did I say sometimes :shock: :lol:

You use every trick in the book or the article called the Akritas Plan, to hold us under siege and then you critisise us for not progressing when you take all the resources of the island and sell it off. This line is not working anymore GR...The people of the world know what you are doing and the shit you spew out is just coming back at you as we speak....

Give it up Zanny! Anytime you're ready let me know and I'll arrange for you to kiss Tpap's butt in the hope that he'll forgive you and you can join the winner's circle! :lol: :lol: :lol:


The game is changing fast GR...Kising Tpaps' butt is never going to happen so you can tell him to pull his skirt down. As usual you are claiming an empty victory long before the final whistle. So many people have told you that but it seems the substance needed to stop the information from going in one ear and out the other is missing.... 8) :lol:

Yeah, 33 years on and you've just managed to install a decent power generator albeit much smaller than you initially planned! :lol: Have you since gotten a bigger crane? :lol:

When will you realize that without the GCs you're doomed! We are the spring from which you flow....





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This guy made the same speech and at the end of the day over 300 men were gunned down and the women and children imprisoned.:roll: :roll:


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Postby Murataga » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:47 pm

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zan wrote:What another crock of shit :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Why the hell are you using the Embargoes then :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: The tourists don't come because the flights are expensive and that is because you will not allow us direct flights. You then persuaded the mayor of London to impose further advertising bans (Illegally) so that the ones that would come didn't anyway. You stopped a simple ferry crossing. You stop us from promoting the "North" of Cyprus regardless of whether we say it is the TRNC or not. we cannot even have a football match without your Gestapo swooping down and getting it cancelled for fear that we might make a few thousand pounds in the process... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


We are not using any embargoes. International community and international law is.
...did you ever think that if we didn't have a case wouldn't the whole world accuse us of imposing embargoes to you?
And this is how it will continue, as long as illegalities are commited and International law is violated then this is what you get. :D


And what do you get for ejecting the TCs from the government, murdering TCs and enclaving the TCs ?... Tell us about some of the punishment or reprimand you received in a conflict with a community you outnumber 1 to 4 and devastated beyond comprehension?

The embargo you had over us included medicine for babies when we were in the enclaves (and it still does), when: no Turkish troop was here, when no GC was making any claims about property and before the TRNC was established. What was our crime but to exist?


Your crime was all the above because you did them to yourselves in order to get taksim.


And here is some more of what "we did to ourselves":

U.N. Secretary General`s report S/5950 of September 1964

"180. UNIFCYP carried out a detailed survey of all damage to properties throughout the island during the disturbances, including the Tyllria fighting. It shows that in 109 villages, most of them Turkish Cypriot or mixed villages, 527 houses have been destroyed while 2000 others have suffered damage from looting. ... In many Turkish villages, crowded by the arrival of displaced persons, there is an acute shortage of medical facilities."


U.N. Secretary General`s report S/6426 of June 1965

"104. The Turkish Cypriot population has continued to be subject to hardships of various kinds, some of them onerous. These include restrictions on the freedom of movement of civilians, economic restrictions, the unavailability of some essential public services, and the sufferings of refugees."



U.N. Secretary General`s report S/8286 of December 1967

"126. When disturbances broke out in December 1963 and continued in the first part of 1964, thousands of Turkish Cypriots fled from their homes, taking with them only what they could drive or carry, and sought refuge in what they considered to be safer Turkish Cypriot villages and areas.
The refusal of the Greek Cypriot authorities to allow the Turkish Cypriot refugees to return to their homes in conditions of safety effectively frustrated persistent Turkish efforts to rehabilitate them. They also obstructed attempts to improve their living conditions"
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Postby Murataga » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:53 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:
Murataga wrote:And what do you get for ejecting the TCs from the government, murdering TCs and enclaving the TCs ?... Tell us about some of the punishment or reprimand you received in a conflict with a community you outnumber 1 to 4 and devastated beyond comprehension?

The embargo you had over us included medicine for babies when we were in the enclaves (and it still does), when: no Turkish troop was here, when no GC was making any claims about property and before the TRNC was established. What was our crime but to exist?


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Dear Murata, it's windy today! Aren't you going to blame Gcs for that?

In 1963, TMT was partly responsible for the creation of numerous small Turkish Cypriot enclaves throughout the island, into which the majority of Turkish Cypriots were forcibly concentrated. The organization was the body responsible for the defense of these enclaves between 1963 and 1974. TMT has been held responsible for numerous murders of both Greek and Turkish Cypriots between 1957 and 1974, and for mass executions of Greek Cypriot civilians during the Turkish invasion in 1974. It was finally disbanded after the Turkish invasion in 1974.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Re ... ganization
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Apparently, no one seems to be blaming the GCs for anything... :roll: Hell, they have been rewarding them, for let me see.... yes, 44 years straight now! Doesn`t the fact that they don`t get punishment or reprimand in a conflict with a community they have devastated which they outnumber 1 to 4 sound just a bit odd - even as a GC?
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:57 pm

KIP Plan, implemented by the Turkisch General Staff since 1958 had one goal- the separation of the two communities. It worked. So why cant you people accept this and say so. You achieved your goal which was TAKSIM and ENOSIS of the partitioned part of the island with Turkey. What more do you want?
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:08 pm

For those that like to brandish the flag carrying photo of Sampson here is a sobering thought. That scene is in Omorfita. Here is what happened in Omorfita in 1958:

"The principle of partition was not based on the realities of Cypriot society at the time, but on Turkey’s perceived security requirements alone. In the Summer of 1958, in the mixed suburb of Omorphita in Nicosia, TMT evicted 700 Greeks from their homes. By the end of July 1958 a much clearer line had been drawn between the Greek and Turkish quarters. The reluctance of British authorities to deal even-handedly with the violence became clearer when the partisan decisions made by the Courts at the time is taken into account. Whereas Turks arrested for participating in the riots were released, Greeks received custodial sentences for minor offences
Sixteen Turks were, for example, arrested by the British authorities for complicity in the Nicosia riots, but they were released on condition that they stayed in at night. A Turkish policeman, sergeant Tuna, was charged with possessing a bomb and ammunition for which the mandatory penalty was clearly the death penalty. He was released and left immediately for Turkey. The only official piece of evidence that Turkish policeman were involved in bomb attacks had conveniently `disappeared’. By contrast, two Greeks who pulled down a Union Jack were each given 18 months prison sentences, whilst those subsequently involved with the possession of fire arms were hanged"

Want some more, here are more worth deeds of TMT, the peoples' protector:

"Ayhan Hikmet and Ahmet Gurkhan were killed in 1962 by TMT. Both Hikmet and Gurkhan were publishers who advocated closer association and co-operation
The most widely known such murders were those of Fazil Ondur, the chief editor of the weekly newspaper Inkilapci, who was killed on 29 May 1959; and Ahmet Yahaya, a committee member of the Turkish Cypriot Athletic and Culture centre, who was killed on 5 June 1958. An attempt was also made on the life of Arif Barudi on 3 July 1958, and another one on Ahmet Sadi, the director of the Turkish office of the Pancypriot Labour Federation who, soon after the attempt against his life, left Cyprus to settle in England. The same policy continues today with the assassination in July 1996 of Kutlu Adali, the Turkish Cypriot journalist, who had the courage to condemn the partitionist project ...."

Notice the dates in the above. Between 1960 and 1963 TMT was busy terrorising the TCs and forcing on them a policy of separation and exclusion. EOKA could not have done it alone, TMT had to be helping out.

So leave this Sampson is responsible for everything and GCs wanted to dominate us stuff. The facts say otherwise.




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Postby T_C » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:22 pm

Oh my GOD Nikitas! Quoting form Greece.org? :roll:

And you really believe what you read on there? No wonder you didn't provide a link. :evil:

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/

Read their "brief history" on Cyprus and see if you can find the name "EOKA" ANYWHERE! :roll:

That website is the most PATHETIC thing I've ever had to read....it even has a "quote" from Ataturk saying something about "the turn of Cyprus is yet to come" that he supposedly said in 1939, a year AFTER his death!
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:27 pm

TC,

are you denying that the TCs mentioned in the quote were killed by TMT. Or that the Omorfita riots occured in 1958, or that Sergeant Tuna was released and fled to Turkey when he should have been punished along with the GCs arrested for arms possesion with the same penalty?

I posted only thins I KNOW were true. I lived in Nicosia in 1958 and "enjoyed" the attentions of the rioters, our house was in Germanou Patron street, just off Ledra street near the Lokmaci crossing (as it is know today), we had a tough time in 1958.
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