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Let's talk about self-imposed isolation

Postby boomerang » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:10 am

Let's talk about self-imposed isolation

This week the Turkish Cypriot leadership took a very radical step backwards by witch hunting Turkish Cypriot who shop in the areas controlled by the Republic of Cyprus. According to Turkish Cypriot media reports, a number of Turkish Cypriots returning to the north have already been harassed, intimidated, fined, while others have had their goods confiscated. An obvious break from the Green Line Regulations that the Turkish Cypriot leadership agreed to, the new "Turk for Turk shopping" campaign, an embargo in itself on Turkish Cypriot shoppers lacks all integrity and reveals the true aims of the current leadership.

THE PURPOSE OF THE GREEN LINE REGULATIONS

Implemented on July 14 2004, the Green Line Regulations facilitates trade between the North of Cyprus and the Republic of Cyprus since the current Green Line that separates the two doe s not constitute an international border. Considering too that the Acquis Communautaire is currently suspended in the north of Cyprus pending a political settlement, Special Regulations are necessary to permit trade between the two areas by providing "special rules concerning the crossing of goods, services and persons."

But technicalities aside, more significantly the Regulations are a political move aimed at integrating the economy of the North with the EU. Enlargement Commissioner Ollie Rehn also described the Regulations as a way of "Building bridges between the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot community over the Green Line is essential for the reconciliation on Cyprus and helpful for creating a positive political climate which would open the way for a comprehensive settlement on the island."

NO INTEGRITY

Regrettably, neither the Turkish Cypriot administration nor the Cyprus government has treated the issue with any integrity. Both sides create obstacles to trade. Excessive Greek Cypriot bureaucratic obstacles put off Turkish Cypriot traders. This is one side of the coin however.

On the other, meanwhile Mr Talat has demonstrated total pessimism from the very onset. Even though Adriaan van der Meer, the EU's representative in Cyprus described the first day of the Regulations as a "very important day for both communities", before the regulations could be assessed Mr Talat is reported to have said that Greek Cypriots were "not psychologically read to buy Turkish Cypriot good" and insisted instead on Direct Trade. But bearing in mind the benefits of trade between both main Cypriot communities why could he not persevere for both? His pessimism for this initiative and his negative view of Greek Cypriots certainly does not demonstrate a will to make things work. When you support and endorse an initiative, it really makes little sense to trivialize its importance before it has even kicked off.

SELF-IMPOSED ISOLATION

Choosing to be pessimistic is Mr. Talat's prerogative. But instead his leadership, which complains of Greek Cypriot 'embargoes' created their own additional obstacles for Turkish Cypriot traders to discourage them from trading with the Greek Cypriots. In one incident involving a major consignment of about 3,800 tons of potatoes , which were meant to cross the Green Line shipped through Limassol to other EU member states, "However, following pressure from within the Turkish Cypriot community on the growers and the Turkish Cypriot traders, this Green Line trade was finally cancelled," (Cyprus Mail Jean Christou September 25, 2007). Not the first time the Turkish Cypriot administration has demonstrated ill will. Ousted Turkish Cypriot Chamber of Commerce chief Ali Erel described how the administration in the north tried to force him to certify tomatoes grown in Turkey as Turkish Cypriot produce in violation of the Green Line Regulations. All produce emanating from the North is monitored by EU experts under the provisions of the bloc's health and safety directives.

Replaced by Erdil Nami, Erel warned "the Chamber's new leadership would turn the body into a mouthpiece for the administration and would do little to boost trade for businessmen in the north." Challenging Mr. Talat's focus on solely lifting 'embargoes,' Mr. Erel stressed that "there is no embargo, as in Iraq, on the northern Cyprus." In fact, he argued, "it is isolation" and condemned people who branded it as an embargo. "It is wrong propaganda", he admitted.

NOT ENTIRELY USELESS

Despite its babyhood the Green Line Regulations have proved to be far from unproductive. In a follow-up article by the Cyprus Mail a year after the implementation of the regulations, it was reported through the offices of the EU that trade between Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots under the EU's Green Line regulations has reached around 90,000 euros a month in February 2005. By September 2005, the total trade value of goods which actually crossed from north to south almost doubled and was about €3,380,805 compared to €1,734,770 in the previous reporting period. In addition the Cyprus government made it clear that Green Line Regulations could be altered to allow expanded trade. Like a tree growing slowly, the Green Line Regulations may have produced limited results but it was nonetheless growing. Now common sense and good will would dictate that a leader would at least preserve and promote these Regulations with the aim of expanding it over time even if you seek Direct Trade as well. Instead Mr. Talat through his clamp down on Turkish Cypriot shoppers seems to be working against the progress of these Regulations.

TURK FOR TURK CAMPAIGN

Naturally, Mr Talat's move has caused strong reaction from opposition parties in the Turkish Cypriot community. The United Cyprus Party (BKP) in a statement strongly criticized the additional obstacles created by Mr. Talat's administration. Member of the Central Executive Committee of the BKP Abdullah Korkmazhan said: "We are ashamed of the fact that the Republican Turkish Party (RTP), which championed itself of being after peace and solution, has become the implementer of the "Turk for Turk campaign." Korkmazhan further said that this is in clear violation of the Green Line Regulation.

DIRECT TRADE

The Turkish Cypriot daily Ortam under its title: "Maltreatment at the Gates" echoed a similar criticism. Reporting arbitrary and illegal harassments against ordinary Turkish Cypriot people, the newspaper says that the aim of the Talat administration is to reduce border crossings. The daily also reports that this action is contrary to the Green Line Regulation and to the reciprocity principle. Killing off Green Line Trade to seek Direct Trade, t he Cyprus Mail reports that "Turkish Cypriot customs police might act to prevent all trade with the Greek Cypriot side, including shopping, if the government continued to block the implementation of a direct trade agreement between the north and the EU."

REAL AIM

However, while I am not against Direct Trade, I feel it is inconsistent for Mr Talat whose politics is based on ending isolation to act against the Green Line Regulations. Turning his back on the Regulations by curbing Turkish Cypriots from shopping in the Republic will only isolate the community more and not protect Turkish Cypriot businesses. Also by creating restrictions like an East German leader on his last legs he automatically increases the worth of Greek Cypriot goods.

Naturally Direct Trade is as important as Green Line Trade but one should not create unnecessary obstacles to hinder Green Line Trade while seeking Direct Trade. This is not only contrary to the Regulations itself but in the wider scheme of things for the integration of the economy of the North with the EU and reconciliation. By going against an EU initiative Talat only increases suspicion that he seeks an upgrade of the status of the TRNC. After all in political theory, if you seek secession then you would also seek to establish the basis of a separate economy. Accordingly, European politicians who genuinely support a united Cyprus for their part should now put pressure on Mr Talat to make the Green Line Regulations work before granting him concessions in other areas.

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what the hell...you are embargoing your selfs...are you also gonna be screaming VP, Zan?...coz you gonna have to do it a bit louder coz I can't hear you :lol:
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Postby tessintrnc » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:23 am

The local papers yesterday were screaming about the CHOCOLATE snatched from a childs HAND that was purchased in the South, whether true or not I don't know (or an exaggeration of an incident) but, let me assure you I haven't yet spoken to anyone, foreign or Turkish Cyp who agree with this ban on goods from the South.
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Postby boomerang » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:41 am

I couldn't imagine a tc soldier snatching anything from a child's hand...I could see a turk soldier doing it coz they are more discipline...

But why aren't the people demonstrating?
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Postby tessintrnc » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:51 am

I think they will, soon, but do not forget that politicians here like all over the world are influenced by those who support their party. The local business mens association is very powerful and if they are losing out by having to sell heavily taxed goods, versus stores like IKEA, then of course they will demand the ban on imported goods. Meat and dairy products were banned a few mths before the outbreak of foot and mouth, and what did the farmers do? They put the price of meat UP, not down!!!! Even though they are selling more!!!! Its a dog eat dog world and I probably will if the price of lamb goes up again!!!
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Postby boomerang » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:58 am

1...What is the diff in tax?...percentage wise

2...Why not the shopkeepers in the Nth do not bulk buy from the RoC and carry them up Nth for conveniance and charge higher?...Well I would be doing that, I wouldn't be complaining because you are providing a service, that saves customers money, and you can charge higher, a little than the RoC, because you are saving them money, time and hassles...
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Postby humanist » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:07 am

Talat is a bloody Moron who has no intention of unification. He might as well come out and say it, so that Cypriots currenty living in the north can pack their bags and move to the RoC. Soon the majority of Cypriots who live in the north will realise that the only obstacle to their future is their own so called leader.
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Postby boomerang » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:15 am

Humanist, do you actually believe that talat can go to the can without permission? :lol:

He is a stooge, a yes man...why you think they put him there?...its not for his intelligence thats for sure...I doubt it very much that talat could find his way out of a wet paper bag, or evn organize a root in one of the many brothels...you expect too much... :lol:

The turks are stalling the inevitable...they know it, we know it, and everybody knows it...

As turkey progress into the EU, you will see things starting to change...even before the halfway mark, things will change...Not long to go...
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Postby zan » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:45 am

If you choose to ignore the facts of the matter then you will come to these childish conclusions. The whole thing boils down to the fact that the TRNC is not allowed to issue it's own certificates and the refusal to allow them to do so is the back door approach by Tpap for taking what little power the TCs have in Cyprus away. The Embargoes are then imposed through this and you have the audacity to say that we do it to ourselves. There is a war of politics going on out there and for Boomers who has taken on the law and lost, it is funny how he forgets this. One minute you are screaming about the Cyprob and the next you want trade to go on as if there is no problem. Give us back our rights under the Zurich agreement and stop the siege. Then you can talk about what is wrong and what is right. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:58 am

Can you take a television from the UK to the States without declaring it for tax purposes? arent there limits for stuff you can take from one EU country to another? Or can you take food from a country that has reported salmonella to another country without that food stuff being confiscated?

The GCs are well organised they do not spend money in the North the figures are 5 million goes from north to south and only 1 million comes from the south to the north. When you look at these figures and the size of our economy you can see why the retail sector are up in arms about curbing spending in the GC state which supports their economy rather than supporting our own.
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Postby tessintrnc » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:57 am

I agree VP, but I don't think its about tax I really believe that this recent ban is MAKE people buy here in the North at greatly inflated prices because of tax - and yes - good old-fashioned greed. Some goods that are imported here by container - teak from malaysia for instance is taxed at over 60% - add the shipping costs, the original outlay and your profit - and WOW!! You are almost double compared to the UK and South Cyprus.
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