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[shahmaran]

Welcome to the forum Talat and Omer, where are you guys from?

[Silenzio]

I was born in England but I've been living in N.Cyprus since I was 6 years old. Ömer, on the other hand, is 100% cypriot

[shahmaran]

Nice, where in Cyprus?

[Kikapu]

Kikapu...There is only one person on the thread that is complaining about the film and that is you so why are you claiming that people thought what only you seem to have thought. As per usual, anything that is either posted by or said by a TC you disagree with......Get over yourself man....

I made very constructive criticism based on what the film projected, which was ........ It shows only that the TC's are doing everything in their power to have peace in Cyprus by defying parents, and the Turkish Military and to anyone who is not familiar with our history, will be mislead and whether it was intentional or not, it crosses over into becoming a Propaganda Hit Piece to the advantage of the TC's. The "director" says that was not his intention, but how the hell is the viewer suppose to know that, because the film tells another story. Now Zan, even you don't buy that do you. It will be like me wanting to make a film on "Wild Nature" but end up making a Porno film and saying, "well yes but, there are some elements in my Porno film that has some relevance to the Wild Nature". So I make the comments, that it was irresponsible to portray the TC's as wanting peace and by not including the other side, the GC's, it leaves the impression, that the GC's do not want peace. The truth is of course, both sides have been "shit heads" at one point or another. If these guys wanted to make a film about peace, then they needed to include both the parties and not just the one. It really does take TWO to TANGO.

[CyprioD]

Nice, where in Cyprus?

i am from taskinkoy, and talat is living at gonyeli.

I made very constructive criticism based on what the film projected, which was ........ It shows only that the TC's are doing everything in their power to have peace in Cyprus by defying parents, and the Turkish Military and to anyone who is not familiar with our history, will be mislead and whether it was intentional or not, it crosses over into becoming a Propaganda Hit Piece to the advantage of the TC's. The "director" says that was not his intention, but how the hell is the viewer suppose to know that, because the film tells another story. Now Zan, even you don't buy that do you. It will be like me wanting to make a film on "Wild Nature" but end up making a Porno film and saying, "well yes but, there are some elements in my Porno film that has some relevance to the Wild Nature". So I make the comments, that it was irresponsible to portray the TC's as wanting peace and by not including the other side, the GC's, it leaves the impression, that the GC's do not want peace. The truth is of course, both sides have been "shit heads" at one point or another. If these guys wanted to make a film about peace, then they needed to include both the parties and not just the one. It really does take TWO to TANGO.

?!?!??? Didnt you read my answer at page 17???:

I am passing the part about Halil and you connecting Halil to Peace at War to being a propaganda film because it is meaningless for me. It is not a propaganda film, i am not a fan of Annan Plan or Turkish Cypriots. As i said the film's script is based on facts without any biased thought about anything.

The very first script i was going to write was going to be much more longer. I was going to write the story of one TC and GC youth's struggle for peace at war. But because it had to be short film (below 15 mins) i had to pass this option. And the script we used to apply to the project was also longer. It ends with a scene where peoples of both communities gather at large numbers and get together at ledra palace to create a wall of flesh to stop the war. But again our script was long, also we will need high budget, so we cut it again.

Of course it is our problem to get to this point. But we know we will get responses like that so we are giving information about GCs at the film, you didnt watch it carefully Kikapu. When Cenk is talking at the phone after first attack there is a dialog: "Inform all you TV stations and I’ll speak with our ones. OK, at 10 then.". And then when he meets with Gizem, they talk about it: "The greeks are out, protesting too. Apparently they’re putting up quite a fight on their side." - "I did speak to Andrea this morning, seems like it’s going good.".

It is not much i know, if we had resources and film time, we may present much more, but it is enough, enough to anyone who is objective...

But i know what i wrote will not change your mind, it is same for TCs who dont like the movie because a soldier is hit.

[Kikapu]

I made very constructive criticism based on what the film projected, which was ........ It shows only that the TC's are doing everything in their power to have peace in Cyprus by defying parents, and the Turkish Military and to anyone who is not familiar with our history, will be mislead and whether it was intentional or not, it crosses over into becoming a Propaganda Hit Piece to the advantage of the TC's. The "director" says that was not his intention, but how the hell is the viewer suppose to know that, because the film tells another story. Now Zan, even you don't buy that do you. It will be like me wanting to make a film on "Wild Nature" but end up making a Porno film and saying, "well yes but, there are some elements in my Porno film that has some relevance to the Wild Nature". So I make the comments, that it was irresponsible to portray the TC's as wanting peace and by not including the other side, the GC's, it leaves the impression, that the GC's do not want peace. The truth is of course, both sides have been "shit heads" at one point or another. If these guys wanted to make a film about peace, then they needed to include both the parties and not just the one. It really does take TWO to TANGO.

?!?!??? Didnt you read my answer at page 17???:



Actually I did read it. Sorry for not answering you before answering to Zan's question.. Again, I'm not having a go at you exactly, but only what you movie would say to someone who is not very familiar with the Cyprus Problems, that's all. I'm sure if you had a lot of money, the next film on the same subject would be more balanced, if it was not meant to be a "Propaganda Hit Film".

[zan]

CyprioD...I am going to leave this person in your hands for a while because I blush when I read his responses about your film......He claims to be a film buff but understands nothing about what the films are trying to say. It really is embarrassing and I am sorry but am hopeful that you read the other comments and have taken them in......

Birkibrisli used to work in film years ago but I have no idea if he has seen it and I am sure he would like to comment but he is on a short leash at the moment and if my theory is right he is just allowed to write his story and thats it.....I will PM him though and ask but he is under the thumb and might not be able to.

Who did the camera work by the way...It was really good. The special effects were realistic enough to make me go cold.

[Kikapu]

CyprioD...I am going to leave this person in your hands for a while because I blush when I read his responses about your film......He claims to be a film buff but understands nothing about what the films are trying to say. It really is embarrassing and I am sorry but am hopeful that you read the other comments and have taken them in......

Birkibrisli used to work in film years ago but I have no idea if he has seen it and I am sure he would like to comment but he is on a short leash at the moment and if my theory is right he is just allowed to write his story and thats it.....I will PM him though and ask but he is under the thumb and might not be able to.

Who did the camera work by the way...It was really good. The special effects were realistic enough to make me go cold.

I already told him that the actual "filming" wasn't too bad, but it was it's content and the message. Wait a minute, wasn't it you who said this was a very simplistic film, or something in that effect. I'm only criticising the content and not the attempts made on the technical side.

[zan]

Utan be uzunden.....Shut up now!

[Kikapu]

Utan be uzunden.....Shut up now!

You forgot the letter "y" as is yuzunden.

You criticize his film being very simplistic at the same time you want to make believe that's what I said, which I did not,, then you get pissed at me for showing you up.

Who needs to grow up Zan.???