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[Murataga]

"Have you traded with them? Have you offered them your services? "

You are full of it MR. Greece is teeming with Turkish made stuff and produce. Two of my filing cabinets are made in Turkey, bough recently in Greece. Most new buildings have Turkish made fitted kitchen and bathroom furniture and there are plenty of other examples of Greek-Turkish trade. The annual figure for trade between the two is in thehundreds of millions of dollars and is in Turkey's favor.

I also recall from my days in Harringey that the most popular green grocer with GCs was the TC gentleman who had the shop on the corner of Allison or Hewitt road and Green Lanes. So the generalised contention that GCs do not support any TC business is way off.

Maybe your sales manner turned people off?

And maybe not...

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

But while other Turkish Cypriots may have made it big in the UK, there is one thing that only Aziz has done: he was the first and only Turkish Cypriot to own a licensed hotel prior to the division of the island in 1974.

“In 1969 we bought the land, but it wasn’t till 1971 that I could start building my hotel,” Aziz explains in the green and shady gardens of the Chateau Lamboussa, one of his two hotels overlooked by the Kyrenia mountains and the town of Lapithos.

“It took them two-and-a-half years to give me a building permit, I believe, simply because I was a Turk, and it was only because I had a Greek Cypriot co-partner that they gave me a licence at all. That was a precondition,” Aziz says,...

And then shah claims you are not brainwashed.Of course you are. And very deeply indeed. Do you know how many times we heard the case of the Cateau hotel in Lambousa? Do you know you are so deeply brainwashed that you are made to believe that was the only hotel the TCs were ever allowed to have? HERE'S the complete list of TC hotels before 1974 for all you blind people.

NB. I don't see any GC partner/owner listed for Chateau hotel

So I guess it is the word of a TC who owned the hotel and lived through those days (and openly claims in the article he has nothing against the GCs) to the GC occupied RoC, who recently described the Cyprus Problem as following to the U.N. ( in HRI/CORE/1/Add.28/Rev.1. Core Document ):

http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/0/a99f ... endocument

Core documents in UN terms are documents that individual states are legaly required to write and submit to the the UN. The interested reader is invited to find a single piece of reference, quotation, comment, point or conclusion in this document that is not in the favor of the GCs and/or in the favor of the TCs when describing a 44 year conflict of two communities in which the GC element outnumbers the other by 4 to 1.

What is even more striking is that Pyrpoliser actually applauded this document when posted by another member who tried to pass it as the findings/conclusions of the U.N. on the Cyprus problem and now Pyrpoliser preaches about being "brainwashed":

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... ht=turkish

[Pyrpolizer]

Translation please!

[CyprioD]

hi everyone, i am Omer, the producer of Peace at War.

Firstly i think i have to give you information about us and the project to give you a better understanding of what it is. I wrote the first script to join the UNDPs young filmmakers project nearly one year ago. So when i was writing it i was mostly thinking to make something good for a bi-communal project, which will at least give some hope for Turkish and Greek Cypriots who always believed and hoped for a lasting peace, a united Cyprus.

Of course i am very aware that the film is very optimist, you can even some exaggerate and say that it is fantasy. I know that united Cyprus is not 6 years away from now, may be tens of years away (if it will ever happen). But it is a FILM, not a documentary, or some kind of tv news. Films are for entertaining people and sometimes for giving them messages. And with Peace at War, we are trying to keep your hopes up for peace (for whom who wants peace) and believe it even at hardest times.

I am 22 years old, finished university 1 year ago and i am working at couple of companies and also as a freelance web-graphic designer. Shooting films was always our biggest hobby with my friends and this project was our first chance to make something at least semi-professional. UNDP gave us this opportunity by giving equipment for project. But this movie was shot with Zero budget. I and my 2 friends (Talat and Eylem, which are into film sector in a way also) wrote, directed, edited it nearly without any help. I have to stop working for 3 months and buy everything needed for film from my savings as an example.

The result was only average for world standards. But think about what we gone through with out any help. At technical and directing point, i think it is over cyprus standards (at least north cyprus, dont know very much about south). I am not trying to praise ourselves (i am sure that there are much more talented people out there in cyprus), i am just trying to show you an example of what Peace at War tries to give you as message, when you believe, you can pass your limits, hope is always there, but you should try.

I have zero political, religious or biased point of view for cyprus problem. I hate politics (but i follow and aware of what is going on), because it is only brainwashing. If you are some open minded, you can see realities of cyprus. In MY OPINION, when you think about last decades, cyprus problem has 2 major cases. One is Turkish troops, which will always be anti-peace power, shame for Turkish Cypriots because we dont even try to find a way to make them go away. And the result of Annan plan, which is shame for Greek Cypriots, believed that is a bad plan and voted no because of their politicians.

These are my facts, my opinions and the films script is based on these facts. We tried to keep the balance (with annan flag at the end and anti turkish troop dialogs, scenes in film) and the comments coming about film showed that we made a good balance.

I just want to say that please stop fighting for your political views, at least at this topic, because there is nothing to do with politics.

Thanks for your comments everyone. I like to hear every type of comment, even if they are negative, we will have something to learn from them, just be polite , thats it. thanks again.

Ömer Yetkinel

btw, i will provide a link for you all for downloading soon, i am just waiting for the load on my server decrease.

[zan]

hi everyone, i am Omer, the producer of Peace at War.

Firstly i think i have to give you information about us and the project to give you a better understanding of what it is. I wrote the first script to join the UNDPs young filmmakers project nearly one year ago. So when i was writing it i was mostly thinking to make something good for a bi-communal project, which will at least give some hope for Turkish and Greek Cypriots who always believed and hoped for a lasting peace, a united Cyprus.

Of course i am very aware that the film is very optimist, you can even some exaggerate and say that it is fantasy. I know that united Cyprus is not 6 years away from now, may be tens of years away (if it will ever happen). But it is a FILM, not a documentary, or some kind of tv news. Films are for entertaining people and sometimes for giving them messages. And with Peace at War, we are trying to keep your hopes up for peace (for whom who wants peace) and believe it even at hardest times.

I am 22 years old, finished university 1 year ago and i am working at couple of companies and also as a freelance web-graphic designer. Shooting films was always our biggest hobby with my friends and this project was our first chance to make something at least semi-professional. UNDP gave us this opportunity by giving equipment for project. But this movie was shot with Zero budget. I and my 2 friends (Talat and Eylem, which are into film sector in a way also) wrote, directed, edited it nearly without any help. I have to stop working for 3 months and buy everything needed for film from my savings as an example.

The result was only average for world standards. But think about what we gone through with out any help. At technical and directing point, i think it is over cyprus standards (at least north cyprus, dont know very much about south). I am not trying to praise ourselves (i am sure that there are much more talented people out there in cyprus), i am just trying to show you an example of what Peace at War tries to give you as message, when you believe, you can pass your limits, hope is always there, but you should try.

I have zero political, religious or biased point of view for cyprus problem. I hate politics (but i follow and aware of what is going on), because it is only brainwashing. If you are some open minded, you can see realities of cyprus. In MY OPINION, when you think about last decades, cyprus problem has 2 major cases. One is Turkish troops, which will always be anti-peace power, shame for Turkish Cypriots because we dont even try to find a way to make them go away. And the result of Annan plan, which is shame for Greek Cypriots, believed that is a bad plan and voted no because of their politicians.

These are my facts, my opinions and the films script is based on these facts. We tried to keep the balance (with annan flag at the end and anti turkish troop dialogs, scenes in film) and the comments coming about film showed that we made a good balance.

I just want to say that please stop fighting for your political views, at least at this topic, because there is nothing to do with politics.

Thanks for your comments everyone. I like to hear every type of comment, even if they are negative, we will have something to learn from them, just be polite , thats it. thanks again.

Ömer Yetkinel

btw, i will provide a link for you all for downloading soon, i am just waiting for the load on my server decrease.

Thank you Omer for explaining and as I have said the production was fantastic. for one got what you were trying to say and the comment about it being simplistic was not meant to be negative. All great stories are simplistic. Hope is simplistic.

Anyway..Good luck with future productions and please let us know of any other films you make. I would very much like to see them.

[T_C]

Well done for making the film and welcome to the forum Omer!

Shame on the people who were so quick to criticise your efforts and hard work with their petty arguments (:evil:)...one members comments left me with a really bitter taste in my mouth but yet again the person in question showed us their true colours and their easily identifiable mindset.

No matter what they said you did a brilliant job mate, I had a feeling that it was a student project, but for a 22 year old the film and the website are fantastic.

WELL DONE!

[halil]

hi everyone, i am Omer, the producer of Peace at War.

Firstly i think i have to give you information about us and the project to give you a better understanding of what it is. I wrote the first script to join the UNDPs young filmmakers project nearly one year ago. So when i was writing it i was mostly thinking to make something good for a bi-communal project, which will at least give some hope for Turkish and Greek Cypriots who always believed and hoped for a lasting peace, a united Cyprus.

Of course i am very aware that the film is very optimist, you can even some exaggerate and say that it is fantasy. I know that united Cyprus is not 6 years away from now, may be tens of years away (if it will ever happen). But it is a FILM, not a documentary, or some kind of tv news. Films are for entertaining people and sometimes for giving them messages. And with Peace at War, we are trying to keep your hopes up for peace (for whom who wants peace) and believe it even at hardest times.

I am 22 years old, finished university 1 year ago and i am working at couple of companies and also as a freelance web-graphic designer. Shooting films was always our biggest hobby with my friends and this project was our first chance to make something at least semi-professional. UNDP gave us this opportunity by giving equipment for project. But this movie was shot with Zero budget. I and my 2 friends (Talat and Eylem, which are into film sector in a way also) wrote, directed, edited it nearly without any help. I have to stop working for 3 months and buy everything needed for film from my savings as an example.

The result was only average for world standards. But think about what we gone through with out any help. At technical and directing point, i think it is over cyprus standards (at least north cyprus, dont know very much about south). I am not trying to praise ourselves (i am sure that there are much more talented people out there in cyprus), i am just trying to show you an example of what Peace at War tries to give you as message, when you believe, you can pass your limits, hope is always there, but you should try.

I have zero political, religious or biased point of view for cyprus problem. I hate politics (but i follow and aware of what is going on), because it is only brainwashing. If you are some open minded, you can see realities of cyprus. In MY OPINION, when you think about last decades, cyprus problem has 2 major cases. One is Turkish troops, which will always be anti-peace power, shame for Turkish Cypriots because we dont even try to find a way to make them go away. And the result of Annan plan, which is shame for Greek Cypriots, believed that is a bad plan and voted no because of their politicians.

These are my facts, my opinions and the films script is based on these facts. We tried to keep the balance (with annan flag at the end and anti turkish troop dialogs, scenes in film) and the comments coming about film showed that we made a good balance.

I just want to say that please stop fighting for your political views, at least at this topic, because there is nothing to do with politics.

Thanks for your comments everyone. I like to hear every type of comment, even if they are negative, we will have something to learn from them, just be polite , thats it. thanks again.

Ömer Yetkinel

btw, i will provide a link for you all for downloading soon, i am just waiting for the load on my server decrease.

Well done Omer,
I am the persone who wanted comments about your film. It was great job you u have done .I will send you Pm .
I would like to know u.

[Sotos]

Not a word about the invasion And the peace that you want is the peace of you keeping our land? Thats not peace. Thats war. Peace is you giving back our land.

[shahmaran]

If he was to get into the "invasion" then he also has to get into the massacres etc, like he said thats not what it was about...

[Viewpoint]

Not a word about the invasion And the peace that you want is the peace of you keeping our land? Thats not peace. Thats war. Peace is you giving back our land.

Peace is the last 33 years, you paid the price for your actions by losing land we paid by nonrecognition, get over it. The only way you can get what you want is to negotiate in good faith and sincerity which you leaders have been unable to do through fault of their own.

[zan]

If he was to get into the "invasion" then he also has to get into the massacres etc, like he said thats not what it was about...

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