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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:26 am

shahmaran wrote:
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shahmaran wrote:Im not a Greek hater, i think they are just as great or bad as the next person, i just dont relate to them and dont want to live with/under them, is that ok with you Pyr?

Nikitas, you are actiang like we are on the same level (north and south) and you know its far from it, i have no reason to go to the south other then to buy nice alcohol and eat some over priced meals while getting treated like a refugee at the gate, i can do without any of them, my business, my family, my lands and properties are all on this side, so sincerely tell me, why should i join you?


Although everybody would love to be among identical people in all respects (ethnicity-language-ethics etc) what you want and the way you want it violates my rights in my own country.
There is absolutely no way out for people like you (and this includes GCs as well) than either tolerate the other community or stick inside your own village/neighborhood or go live in another country.

Babylike wants and wants and wants, are only for the American boys and girls.


What do you mean "your country", we are where we are becayse YOU violated MY rights in MY country, so lets not get a head of ourselves now...


That's just the FAULTY EXCUSE you were taught to believe and use.... Anything else to the essense of what I said?

Any dare replying to the question I reminded you twice before?


Yes and thats a pretty exhausted automatic response you got there too Pyr, its either a conspiracy, fabricated evidence, propaganda or brain washing, no chance any of us are actually capable of thinking for ourselves is there, i mean there just has to be something that would put as on the wrong :roll:


How do you explain your believing to half truths? (and half lies)
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:34 am

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Pyrpolizer wrote:Certainly! Here you are: Kikapu is racist against the Turks :lol: :lol: :lol:


And you smell and are playing silly buggers with words when you know exactly what they mean :roll: :roll: :roll:

Your turn fat face.... :lol:


What's the matter got offended from your own childish statement? Just point me one single post where Kikapu was racist against the Turks.

Btw do you know you are insulting many Tcs by calling them Turks? Speak for yourself man, speak for yourself ONLY.
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Postby zan » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:39 am

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Pyrpolizer wrote:Certainly! Here you are: Kikapu is racist against the Turks :lol: :lol: :lol:


And you smell and are playing silly buggers with words when you know exactly what they mean :roll: :roll: :roll:

Your turn fat face.... :lol:


What's the matter got offended from your own childish statement? Just point me one single post where Kikapu was racist against the Turks.

Btw do you know you are insulting many Tcs by calling them Turks? Speak for yourself man, speak for yourself ONLY.




Read what you wrote and then take your own advise...... :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby zan » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:43 am

O gadar!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :arrow: Theres the door Pyro
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:37 am

"Have you traded with them? Have you offered them your services? "

You are full of it MR. Greece is teeming with Turkish made stuff and produce. Two of my filing cabinets are made in Turkey, bough recently in Greece. Most new buildings have Turkish made fitted kitchen and bathroom furniture and there are plenty of other examples of Greek-Turkish trade. The annual figure for trade between the two is in thehundreds of millions of dollars and is in Turkey's favor.

I also recall from my days in Harringey that the most popular green grocer with GCs was the TC gentleman who had the shop on the corner of Allison or Hewitt road and Green Lanes. So the generalised contention that GCs do not support any TC business is way off.

Maybe your sales manner turned people off?
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Postby Murataga » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:25 am

Nikitas wrote:"Have you traded with them? Have you offered them your services? "

You are full of it MR. Greece is teeming with Turkish made stuff and produce. Two of my filing cabinets are made in Turkey, bough recently in Greece. Most new buildings have Turkish made fitted kitchen and bathroom furniture and there are plenty of other examples of Greek-Turkish trade. The annual figure for trade between the two is in thehundreds of millions of dollars and is in Turkey's favor.

I also recall from my days in Harringey that the most popular green grocer with GCs was the TC gentleman who had the shop on the corner of Allison or Hewitt road and Green Lanes. So the generalised contention that GCs do not support any TC business is way off.

Maybe your sales manner turned people off?


And maybe not...

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

But while other Turkish Cypriots may have made it big in the UK, there is one thing that only Aziz has done: he was the first and only Turkish Cypriot to own a licensed hotel prior to the division of the island in 1974.

“In 1969 we bought the land, but it wasn’t till 1971 that I could start building my hotel,” Aziz explains in the green and shady gardens of the Chateau Lamboussa, one of his two hotels overlooked by the Kyrenia mountains and the town of Lapithos.

“It took them two-and-a-half years to give me a building permit, I believe, simply because I was a Turk, and it was only because I had a Greek Cypriot co-partner that they gave me a licence at all. That was a precondition,” Aziz says,...
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Postby T_C » Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:12 pm

Back to the topic I just got an email from the director who told me he wrote, directed and edited the film with his friend. Its a student thing...
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:30 pm

Murataga,

MR was complaining about TODAY and you bring up an example from the 60s at the peak of the crisis.

Thinking back to 50s Nicosia, there were shops belonging to members of all communities of the island iin the then famour Ermou street. We had shoes made by Turkish Cypriot people, bought cloth from another Turkish Cypriot at the recommendation of our Greek Cypriot tailor, and I recall that the curtains in the house wer made by two TC ladies working together in a small shop well within the GC neighborhood. For some reason most jewellers, frequented by both GCs and TCs seemed to be Armenians. So where is there evidence that GCs instinctively avoid doing business with TCs , which is what MR is asserting.

He has had bad experiences, but that cannot be generalised and turned into some kind of rule.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:44 pm

Nikitas wrote:Murataga,

MR was complaining about TODAY and you bring up an example from the 60s at the peak of the crisis.

Thinking back to 50s Nicosia, there were shops belonging to members of all communities of the island iin the then famour Ermou street. We had shoes made by Turkish Cypriot people, bought cloth from another Turkish Cypriot at the recommendation of our Greek Cypriot tailor, and I recall that the curtains in the house wer made by two TC ladies working together in a small shop well within the GC neighborhood. For some reason most jewellers, frequented by both GCs and TCs seemed to be Armenians. So where is there evidence that GCs instinctively avoid doing business with TCs , which is what MR is asserting.

He has had bad experiences, but that cannot be generalised and turned into some kind of rule.


Nikitas, these are my personal experiences. I have many Greek/GC customers, they are happy with my services and I appreciate their custom.

Muratagas reference to the sixties is as valid today.

Are you saying the level of hatred towards Turks/TCs by Greeks/GCs is less today then back in 60s?
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:47 pm

T_C wrote:Back to the topic I just got an email from the director who told me he wrote, directed and edited the film with his friend. Its a student thing...


T_C,

That does not give us any information at all. Can you get in touch with the Director and ask him to tell you what the purpose for that project was. What was the underlining reason and what was the message he was trying to send.?? What were the political motivations for the project.? Since he wrote the script and directed it, he must know all the reasons. Tell him/her it's for the Forum that you want his permission to post it.
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