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Postby zan » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:32 pm

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shahmaran wrote:Im not a Greek hater, i think they are just as great or bad as the next person, i just dont relate to them and dont want to live with/under them, is that ok with you Pyr?

Nikitas, you are actiang like we are on the same level (north and south) and you know its far from it, i have no reason to go to the south other then to buy nice alcohol and eat some over priced meals while getting treated like a refugee at the gate, i can do without any of them, my business, my family, my lands and properties are all on this side, so sincerely tell me, why should i join you?


Although everybody would love to be among identical people in all respects (ethnicity-language-ethics etc) what you want and the way you want it violates my rights in my own country.
There is absolutely no way out for people like you (and this includes GCs as well) than either tolerate the other community or stick inside your own village/neighborhood or go live in another country.

Babylike wants and wants and wants, are only for the American boys and girls.


What do you mean "your country", we are where we are becayse YOU violated MY rights in MY country, so lets not get a head of ourselves now...


That's just the FAULTY EXCUSE you were taught to believe and use.... Anything else to the essense of what I said?

Any dare replying to the question I reminded you twice before?


Yes and thats a pretty exhausted automatic response you got there too Pyr, its either a conspiracy, fabricated evidence, propaganda or brain washing, no chance any of us are actually capable of thinking for ourselves is there, i mean there just has to be something that would put as on the wrong :roll:



That is just their brain washing that is talking :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:49 pm

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Kikupurass, you are full of shit. Appart from being a tourist in the south you've had any other dealings with the GCs. Have you traded with them? Have you offered them your services?

Listen dickbrain, they wouldn't give you their cold. They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

Let me tell you a few of my personal experiencecs.

1. I used to sell mobile phones, I had a very good deal going with the Ericsson 388s, they were selling for £375, I offered them at £325. I had a telephone call from a GC chap in Cyprus, the deal was almost done when he asked what nationality I was, like a fool I told him TC, he went "Turkish, TURKISH" the line went dead. That was after 4-6 telephone conversations.

2. A Greek guy from Greece is looking for the product I sell on the net. He calls me and places an order and gives me his credit card details, this was during the Athens Olympics. I wish him good luck with the Greek team and he wishes me good luck with the GB team. Like an idiot I| tell him my loyalty is with Turkey and really don't care how many gold GB wins. He immediately cancelled the order.

3. A Greek guy wants my product for his hotel, I advise him that there is a very good company producing this product in Istanbul to a very high standard at half the cost. He corrects me and tells me its Constantinople and until it is back in Greek hands he will not buy anything from there. I thought I'd have a bit of fun with him and tell him I have many Turkish friends and that this subject has come up before and my Turkish friends tell me the Greeks haven't got big enough balls to conquer Istanbul and rename it Constantinople. Anyway after awhile he annoyed me and I told him I had no product to supply him and that while we wasted time on the phone I had sold out.

Kikapurass, you are a fool. For the sake of your fucking popularity on a stupid forum you sell your own people. VP Called you a cunt, you are much worse than that.

PS. Your comedy act and Animal Farm is really getting boring. You are such a self centred and self indulgent prick its unbelievable. Get over it.

PSS. Like in every race there are good guys and bad guys, but in our case with the GCs they are almost all bad guys.


Mr Frog, nice of you to have "jumped" in.

No, I do not have any business dealing with GC's, Greeks, TC's or Turks at all, other than casual contact in shops but you do business with them on daily basis you have told us many times along Green Lanes in London, so if you find them good enough to do business with them, why are they not good enough to live on the same island. But then again your Racism runs very deep Mr. Frog, which you have demonstrated few times in the past and then decided to take the "friendly" route lately, and when I called you on that, once again you are back to your Racist ways, so why should I even pay any attention to you in what you think. Just because I'm not in favour violating thousands of innocent peoples Human Rights today, because some criminal GC's violated ours in the past, you are very comfortable to maintain the present divide because it suits you and all those who are benefiting on the misery of others. This has nothing to do with security but has everything to do with greed.

I'm not going to accuse you or your cousin who runs a hotel in the "TRNC" of violating anyone's Human Rights, just because I do not know, but the fact that you support it one way or the other, and support Partition and taking away other peoples properties, you cannot escape being guilty by association. But it is more than that Mr. Frog, you actually come out and say that the North belongs to you and that the GC's should stay in the South, which is the general feelings of the Partitionist being same as your, and then you wonder why some Greeks or GC's do not want to do business with you. Are you that arragont, that no matter what we do to the GC's, that no one should dare to cancel their business dealing with you, at least until until we get things sorted out in Cyprus. In all honesty, as a TC, I would not do business with you with your Racist attitude, I don't care how much discount you gave me. This is the most amazing thing that I hear from all the Partitionist on how bad the GC's are in Cyprus towards us, when we have kicked them out of their lands, killed few thousands, raped several hundred, few hundred are still missing, gave their properties to settlers with titles, we sell their properties to foreigners, put up giant flags on "Graffiti Mountain" so that it can be seen both day and night, which is like saying to them "FUCK YOU", and yet many thousands TC's depend on the GC's everyday to make a living in the RoC, along having obtained RoC passports by 70,000+ TC's, without any bad treatment towards the TC's to speak of.

I do not expect for you or for all the Partitionist to understand, and how could you when you all have your Racist views, but for me it is all about what is right and what is wrong. You can scream all you want about some kind of popularity or GC ass kissing, or being a cunt, does not phase me at all Mr. Frog, because at the end of the day, I know the difference between right and wrong, and if that means that my people are on the wrong side of some issues, I cannot close my eyes and ignore them, like all the Partitionist tend to do. I have no financial stake at all, but I have a lot of stake in my own integrity and humanity, and I'm not about to walk away from my moral values, just because I may upset some in my own community. I'm sorry, but I do not follow in the footsteps of wrongs being perpetrated on our own people, which are Cypriots, and if you claim to be also a Cypriot, then I don't know why you are upset with me.
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Postby zan » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:15 pm

Says the biggest racist against Turks the world has ever seen....... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:01 am

MR-from-NG wrote:
zan wrote:
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You are talking invidualr rights what about community rights.


Miss Piggy,

Listen dummy, there is no such thing as a "community rights" in any country that gives you equal footing in power sharing, not unless you want to classify yourself as a Minority, much like the Gay community, Black Community, Hispanic Community, Turkish Community and so on to be able to claim extra protection from the Government for your community. The extra protection still does not give you any special treatment in running the government. As a minority, certain percentage of jobs will go to that group whether that person is suited for that job or not. In another words, you will never be respected in a work place by your colleagues, because they will know that your job was "gifted" to you and that you did not earned it. As a equal citizen, with your individual rights in place and equal to each citizen, you can at least be proud to have gotten the job on merits, and not because you are a TC.

Be careful what you ask for, because you might just get it, and then you will be kicking yourself in disgust.


Oh is that why the mighty Great Britain sees fit to have "Positive Discrimination" then brain box :roll: :roll: :roll: Who the hell do you think you are talking to hear? A bunch of school children. Laws are made where the system fails them and the way you sell the "RoC" and the democratic rights of EU citizens in that you think they are infallible is just a joke. Th fact that discrimination WILL be used against the TCs should ring alarm bells in your head but the party line does not allow you to think like that. If you see a problem then you make sure that they do not happen. You might be happy to see a long line of TCs waiting to have their cases heard in court while their families starve or they are left behind financially but we are not. You seem to be happy to let whole generations of young TCs suffer after they spend all their time studying in TC universities that the GCs have had taken out of the register anyway so why not. Our children and young adults are being discriminated against right now and you wish for it to carry on and worse. Whole generations are being left behind when the EU took the whole of Cyprus in and is discriminating against hundreds of thousands of them. Where is the justice in that :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Who ever said that Britain was not a Racist Country for a very long time until fairly recently. I remember what a Big News it was, when the first Black footballer played for England in the late 70's, or when the First Black became a Police officer around the same time. I'm sure you remember that Racist TV show "Till Death Us Do Part" with Alf Garnett in the 60's-70's. Don't you think the UK has moved away from those days of Racist Practises.? You are still thinking.....

a) times have not changed for the countries in Europe and

b) you still think of going back to a Cyprus Republic rather than start fresh with a True Federation Government with North and South States as I outlined before, or

c) you want Partition no matter what or how and how many Human Rights violations you commit along the way.

The TC's will occupy most of the jobs in the North and the GC's in the South. All Federal jobs will be determined based on who is qualified for the jobs, except the minority groups will get extra help to get jobs in the government, so that all the citizens will be represented in all government jobs. TC's do not want to be considered as Minorities, therefore, we will have to apply to these positions in the government like any one else. With the protection of the New Federal Laws superseding State Laws, employment will be open to anyone, whether in the North State or the South State.

Here is how things are done in the USA.

http://www.usa.gov/Topics/Reference_Shelf/Laws.shtml


You squirm and squirm but you get nowhere. We all know the party line and then the realists of this world see what is going on in daily life. They then have to make special laws to cover their short comings ands that is what positive discrimination is about. As for the rest...You keep coming up with all these cure all policies and not a single one is excepted by the GC administration. They sabotage every attempt at working things out and the Annan Plan was the last straw. Try running your ideas past Tpap and when you get him to say yes then come back to us and we can have our say. You are trying to get me to agree to something that your side does not want. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Kikupurass, you are full of shit. Appart from being a tourist in the south you've had any other dealings with the GCs. Have you traded with them? Have you offered them your services?

Listen dickbrain, they wouldn't give you their cold. They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

Let me tell you a few of my personal experiencecs.

1. I used to sell mobile phones, I had a very good deal going with the Ericsson 388s, they were selling for £375, I offered them at £325. I had a telephone call from a GC chap in Cyprus, the deal was almost done when he asked what nationality I was, like a fool I told him TC, he went "Turkish, TURKISH" the line went dead. That was after 4-6 telephone conversations.

2. A Greek guy from Greece is looking for the product I sell on the net. He calls me and places an order and gives me his credit card details, this was during the Athens Olympics. I wish him good luck with the Greek team and he wishes me good luck with the GB team. Like an idiot I| tell him my loyalty is with Turkey and really don't care how many gold GB wins. He immediately cancelled the order.

3. A Greek guy wants my product for his hotel, I advise him that there is a very good company producing this product in Istanbul to a very high standard at half the cost. He corrects me and tells me its Constantinople and until it is back in Greek hands he will not buy anything from there. I thought I'd have a bit of fun with him and tell him I have many Turkish friends and that this subject has come up before and my Turkish friends tell me the Greeks haven't got big enough balls to conquer Istanbul and rename it Constantinople. Anyway after awhile he annoyed me and I told him I had no product to supply him and that while we wasted time on the phone I had sold out.

Kikapurass, you are a fool. For the sake of your fucking popularity on a stupid forum you sell your own people. VP Called you a cunt, you are much worse than that.

PS. Your comedy act and Animal Farm is really getting boring. You are such a self centred and self indulgent prick its unbelievable. Get over it.

PSS. Like in every race there are good guys and bad guys, but in our case with the GCs they are almost all bad guys.


What a superb salesman you are Mr-From-Ng!!
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:01 am

MR-from-NG wrote:
zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
You are talking invidualr rights what about community rights.


Miss Piggy,

Listen dummy, there is no such thing as a "community rights" in any country that gives you equal footing in power sharing, not unless you want to classify yourself as a Minority, much like the Gay community, Black Community, Hispanic Community, Turkish Community and so on to be able to claim extra protection from the Government for your community. The extra protection still does not give you any special treatment in running the government. As a minority, certain percentage of jobs will go to that group whether that person is suited for that job or not. In another words, you will never be respected in a work place by your colleagues, because they will know that your job was "gifted" to you and that you did not earned it. As a equal citizen, with your individual rights in place and equal to each citizen, you can at least be proud to have gotten the job on merits, and not because you are a TC.

Be careful what you ask for, because you might just get it, and then you will be kicking yourself in disgust.


Oh is that why the mighty Great Britain sees fit to have "Positive Discrimination" then brain box :roll: :roll: :roll: Who the hell do you think you are talking to hear? A bunch of school children. Laws are made where the system fails them and the way you sell the "RoC" and the democratic rights of EU citizens in that you think they are infallible is just a joke. Th fact that discrimination WILL be used against the TCs should ring alarm bells in your head but the party line does not allow you to think like that. If you see a problem then you make sure that they do not happen. You might be happy to see a long line of TCs waiting to have their cases heard in court while their families starve or they are left behind financially but we are not. You seem to be happy to let whole generations of young TCs suffer after they spend all their time studying in TC universities that the GCs have had taken out of the register anyway so why not. Our children and young adults are being discriminated against right now and you wish for it to carry on and worse. Whole generations are being left behind when the EU took the whole of Cyprus in and is discriminating against hundreds of thousands of them. Where is the justice in that :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Who ever said that Britain was not a Racist Country for a very long time until fairly recently. I remember what a Big News it was, when the first Black footballer played for England in the late 70's, or when the First Black became a Police officer around the same time. I'm sure you remember that Racist TV show "Till Death Us Do Part" with Alf Garnett in the 60's-70's. Don't you think the UK has moved away from those days of Racist Practises.? You are still thinking.....

a) times have not changed for the countries in Europe and

b) you still think of going back to a Cyprus Republic rather than start fresh with a True Federation Government with North and South States as I outlined before, or

c) you want Partition no matter what or how and how many Human Rights violations you commit along the way.

The TC's will occupy most of the jobs in the North and the GC's in the South. All Federal jobs will be determined based on who is qualified for the jobs, except the minority groups will get extra help to get jobs in the government, so that all the citizens will be represented in all government jobs. TC's do not want to be considered as Minorities, therefore, we will have to apply to these positions in the government like any one else. With the protection of the New Federal Laws superseding State Laws, employment will be open to anyone, whether in the North State or the South State.

Here is how things are done in the USA.

http://www.usa.gov/Topics/Reference_Shelf/Laws.shtml


You squirm and squirm but you get nowhere. We all know the party line and then the realists of this world see what is going on in daily life. They then have to make special laws to cover their short comings ands that is what positive discrimination is about. As for the rest...You keep coming up with all these cure all policies and not a single one is excepted by the GC administration. They sabotage every attempt at working things out and the Annan Plan was the last straw. Try running your ideas past Tpap and when you get him to say yes then come back to us and we can have our say. You are trying to get me to agree to something that your side does not want. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Kikupurass, you are full of shit. Appart from being a tourist in the south you've had any other dealings with the GCs. Have you traded with them? Have you offered them your services?

Listen dickbrain, they wouldn't give you their cold. They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

Let me tell you a few of my personal experiencecs.

1. I used to sell mobile phones, I had a very good deal going with the Ericsson 388s, they were selling for £375, I offered them at £325. I had a telephone call from a GC chap in Cyprus, the deal was almost done when he asked what nationality I was, like a fool I told him TC, he went "Turkish, TURKISH" the line went dead. That was after 4-6 telephone conversations.

2. A Greek guy from Greece is looking for the product I sell on the net. He calls me and places an order and gives me his credit card details, this was during the Athens Olympics. I wish him good luck with the Greek team and he wishes me good luck with the GB team. Like an idiot I| tell him my loyalty is with Turkey and really don't care how many gold GB wins. He immediately cancelled the order.

3. A Greek guy wants my product for his hotel, I advise him that there is a very good company producing this product in Istanbul to a very high standard at half the cost. He corrects me and tells me its Constantinople and until it is back in Greek hands he will not buy anything from there. I thought I'd have a bit of fun with him and tell him I have many Turkish friends and that this subject has come up before and my Turkish friends tell me the Greeks haven't got big enough balls to conquer Istanbul and rename it Constantinople. Anyway after awhile he annoyed me and I told him I had no product to supply him and that while we wasted time on the phone I had sold out.

Kikapurass, you are a fool. For the sake of your fucking popularity on a stupid forum you sell your own people. VP Called you a cunt, you are much worse than that.

PS. Your comedy act and Animal Farm is really getting boring. You are such a self centred and self indulgent prick its unbelievable. Get over it.

PSS. Like in every race there are good guys and bad guys, but in our case with the GCs they are almost all bad guys.


What a superb salesman you are Mr-From-Ng!! Tell us how many mobiles you sold to the British after you told them you don't care how many goldens GB gets since all you cared was how many Turkey would get?
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Postby zan » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:04 am

You should not take everything you hear that is said in anger so seriously Pyro :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:11 am

zan wrote:Says the biggest racist against Turks the world has ever seen....... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Another confused statement, by the always confused :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby zan » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:13 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
zan wrote:Says the biggest racist against Turks the world has ever seen....... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Another confused statement, by the always confused :lol: :lol: :lol:


You shouldn't be so hard on your self....


Your turn for a childish remark :roll:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:19 am

Certainly! Here you are: Kikapu is racist against the Turks :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby zan » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:22 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:Certainly! Here you are: Kikapu is racist against the Turks :lol: :lol: :lol:


And you smell and are playing silly buggers with words when you know exactly what they mean :roll: :roll: :roll:

Your turn fat face.... :lol:
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