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Question for those aware of "TRNC" property laws.

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Postby MicAtCyp » Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:40 am

Insan wrote: I'm not sure but I think with the latest regulations you can only claim compensation of your land with an equal value of TC land in South or payment of its price that the property court will decide. In case you haven't satisfied with the judgement of Property Court of North, you can refuse it and apply to the ECHR.


Has anyone been compensated? Has anyone been offered equal TC property in the free areas? Has any owner of that property signed the title deeds for transfer of ownership?
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Postby brother » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:45 am

I have also heard of this commission set up for claims, it may pay to speak to the british consulate in cyprus as this would be something they know about and could probably be very helpful in putting you in the right direction.
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:49 pm

Agios Amvrosios wrote:
it is said that 2000 GCs ...made applications for compensation


please let me have the link for this info. I've never heard anthing like this before. I read about one single bloke who applied but then withdrew his application when he understood what was involved.

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It's an old news from mid-2003. The properties exchange, compensation and return of refugees issue need a new mutual agreement if both sides are satisfied with the relevant provisions of Annan Plan.


After the establishment of a bi-communal property commission and a bi-communal proprties court;

1st step: The TCs who want to exchange the properties they have the title deeds in South with equal value of GC property in North should submit their application to this comission first. Let's say %90 of TCs wanted to exchange their properties. All of the title deeds of these properties and the title deeds of TC state land existed in South should be trasnsfered to the name of GC administration.

2nd step: The GCs who want to exchange the properties they have the title deeds in South with equal value of TC property in South should submit their application to this comission. Let's say %50 of GCs wanted to exchange their properties. All of the title deeds of these properties and the title deeds of the exchanged GC state land existed in North should be trasnsfered to the name of TC administration.

3rd step determining the number of GC refugees who should be allowed to return to TCCS either by full restitution of their properties or giving them equal amount of alternative land and properties in same village/town or anywhere they wish in TCCS. The number of GC refugees in this category should not be exceed %33 of number of TC citizens of North.

4th step determining the number of TC refugees who should be allowed to return to GCCS either by full restitution of their properties or giving them equal amount of alternative land and properties in same village/town or anywhere they wish in GCCS. The number of TC refugees in this category should not be exceed %33 of number of TC citizens of North.


During the process of exchange of properties, return of refugees, the ones who haven't satisfied with what the commission offered to them; should be allowed to apply to the bi-communal property court. If he/she hasn't been satisfied with the judgement of the bi-communal court; he/she should be allowed to apply ECHR.

I think the substantial part of the properties issue would have been resolved in the first two years after the applications submited to commission.
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Postby BigDutch » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:21 pm

The "theoretical" situation is that the land is that of my wifes grand father. He would be a GC who never left Cyprus. My wifes parents would have moved to England in the late 60's (early 70's) on UK passports existing from pre 1960.

They are effectively UK citizens and have been for decades. I understand from Erolz that all descendants of TC/GC's are still considered as TC/GC regardless of where they were born/have lived their lives.

Why does a UK born person with English bloodline have more rights in the "property" issue than a UK born person with a Cypriot bloodline ?
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Postby brother » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:30 pm

I would imagine it is because they have no connection to the cyprus problem where at the moment it is tit for tat on the property issue for cypriots.
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Re: Question for those aware of "TRNC" property la

Postby turkcyp » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:46 pm

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Re: Question for those aware of "TRNC" property la

Postby BigDutch » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:50 pm

turkcyp wrote:Everybody that holds pre 1974 deeds in north did the same, Brits, TCs, etc.


turkcyp wrote:I know that there are more than 1000 GC cases in north that have applied to TRNC property commision for their land back. You can choose that road as well, instead of courts.


Where can i find the "TRNC" property commission - they have internet presence ? i`d like to find out what is involved in the whole process.
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:57 pm

And if your property is given to somebody else after 1974 because you have been a refuge and you have not applied on appropriate time, then you can sue TRNC goverment in TRNC courts so that she is obliged to kick the person currently occupyiong your house out, so that you can use your property freely.


Yes I agree with turkcyp. Even this person has been a TC refugee occupying your land, they immediatly kick him/her out of your land and issue a TRNC title deed for your name to freely use it.
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Postby BigDutch » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:04 pm

insan wrote:Even this person has been a TC refugee occupying your land, they immediatly kick him/her out of your land and issue a TRNC title deed for your name to freely use it.


Even if the owners of the title deed in the 60/70's were GC's ? And 30-40 years later come to "TRNC" and the "TRNC" title deed will still be presented to a GC and 100% usage is provided?
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