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Turkey's Tolerance Turnaround . . .

Postby phoenix » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:46 pm

Intolerance to Christians is growing and spreading in Turkey. The authorities are not doing enough to curb murders of non-Muslims. The courts do not take such murders with the seriousness needed to bring justice to the perpetrators.

It's time Turks accepted responsibility for the type of backward Government they have elected. Goodbye progress, goodbye civilisation, goodbye EU.

Turkey has done a turnaround, and it's not Europe friendly.

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article3191522.ece
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Postby boomerang » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:02 pm

One of them is Salim Cohce, a professor of history and sociology at Inonu University in Malatya. In Malatya alone, he claims, a city which once had a large Armenian population, there are 3,500 "crypto-Christians". The aim of missionaries is "to destabilise the country", he says. "If they are not controlled, this can be dangerous for Turkey."


When you got educated people joining in, it's starting to become a worry...
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Postby DINOS SKALIOTIS » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:52 pm

boomerang wrote:
One of them is Salim Cohce, a professor of history and sociology at Inonu University in Malatya. In Malatya alone, he claims, a city which once had a large Armenian population, there are 3,500 "crypto-Christians". The aim of missionaries is "to destabilise the country", he says. "If they are not controlled, this can be dangerous for Turkey."


When you got educated people joining in, it's starting to become a worry...


educated and turkish? now theres 2 words you dont often see in the same sentance! :wink:
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Postby phoenix » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:41 am

boomerang wrote:
One of them is Salim Cohce, a professor of history and sociology at Inonu University in Malatya. In Malatya alone, he claims, a city which once had a large Armenian population, there are 3,500 "crypto-Christians". The aim of missionaries is "to destabilise the country", he says. "If they are not controlled, this can be dangerous for Turkey."


When you got educated people joining in, it's starting to become a worry...


It's worrying that this kind of activity seems to be taken so flippantly by the judge in charge of this case.

When the members of their legal system who are supposed to be educated and unbiased behave in this way, it is no wonder that the rest of the country is living as though they are in the 19th century.

"It's a perception from the past," says Jeremy Salt, a professor at Ankara's Bilkent University who has written on 19th-century missionaries in Turkey. "Back then, missionaries were seen as encouraging Christians to rebel. Some think the same is happening now."
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:08 am

phoenix wrote:
boomerang wrote:
One of them is Salim Cohce, a professor of history and sociology at Inonu University in Malatya. In Malatya alone, he claims, a city which once had a large Armenian population, there are 3,500 "crypto-Christians". The aim of missionaries is "to destabilise the country", he says. "If they are not controlled, this can be dangerous for Turkey."


When you got educated people joining in, it's starting to become a worry...


It's worrying that this kind of activity seems to be taken so flippantly by the judge in charge of this case.

When the members of their legal system who are supposed to be educated and unbiased behave in this way, it is no wonder that the rest of the country is living as though they are in the 19th century.

"It's a perception from the past," says Jeremy Salt, a professor at Ankara's Bilkent University who has written on 19th-century missionaries in Turkey. "Back then, missionaries were seen as encouraging Christians to rebel. Some think the same is happening now."



Phoenix, dear. Do you like ' boulgouri pilafi'?.
We say 'onundeki pilava bak'. Its more interesting and delicious. :o
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Postby phoenix » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:23 am

An extract from the Turkish Daily News showing the extent of the hatred against the Christian missionaries in Turkey by senior officials.

The Statutes Directorate General is a very influential post. It has prominence in the ministry. While chatting with those around him during the debates on the draft of Turkish Trade Law in the Parliament's Justice Commission, this gentleman, right after the murders in Malatya said loudly enough in order to be heard by the journalists around, “Missionary activities have been spreading uncontrollably just like they were during the final periods of the Ottoman Empire.” He added, at one point during his conversation, that, “Missionary work is even more dangerous than terrorism and unfortunately is not considered a crime in Turkey.” If this frame of mind can make it to the utmost point in the justice ministry, then we are doomed…


These are Senior members of the government which ultimately illegally controls the northern part of Cyprus . . .
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:34 pm

Yes and the Christian "world" spent how many years bombing Muslim children under the name of "democracy" ?

Oh and how many Greeks actually supported the massacre in the heart of Europe against the Bosnian Muslims? Up to the extent that they actually went there to give them a hand :/

Funny you people laugh about education and Turkey with so much blood in your hands, i say you take your nauseatingly hypocritical attitude and ram it up your chauvinist arse and we might actually find it interesting then...
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Postby DINOS SKALIOTIS » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:04 pm

shahmaran wrote:Yes and the Christian "world" spent how many years bombing Muslim children under the name of "democracy" ?

Oh and how many Greeks actually supported the massacre in the heart of Europe against the Bosnian Muslims? Up to the extent that they actually went there to give them a hand :/

Funny you people laugh about education and Turkey with so much blood in your hands, i say you take your nauseatingly hypocritical attitude and ram it up your chauvinist arse and we might actually find it interesting then...


typical! you turks always have your mind on ramming things up arses!
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:10 pm

DINOS SKALIOTIS wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Yes and the Christian "world" spent how many years bombing Muslim children under the name of "democracy" ?

Oh and how many Greeks actually supported the massacre in the heart of Europe against the Bosnian Muslims? Up to the extent that they actually went there to give them a hand :/

Funny you people laugh about education and Turkey with so much blood in your hands, i say you take your nauseatingly hypocritical attitude and ram it up your chauvinist arse and we might actually find it interesting then...


typical! you turks always have your mind on ramming things up arses!



Well i thought you Greek guys were into that kind of stuff :roll:
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Postby DINOS SKALIOTIS » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:27 pm

shahmaran wrote:
DINOS SKALIOTIS wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Yes and the Christian "world" spent how many years bombing Muslim children under the name of "democracy" ?

Oh and how many Greeks actually supported the massacre in the heart of Europe against the Bosnian Muslims? Up to the extent that they actually went there to give them a hand :/

Funny you people laugh about education and Turkey with so much blood in your hands, i say you take your nauseatingly hypocritical attitude and ram it up your chauvinist arse and we might actually find it interesting then...


typical! you turks always have your mind on ramming things up arses!



Well i thought you Greek guys were into that kind of stuff :roll:


no mate you got it wrong last time you saw something like that going on you were looking in the mirror! :wink:
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