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[brother]

Those that you have quoted are just three examples that are highly publicised by the gc admin. and are in effect just not enough but like giving a poor man a loaf of bread to feed him today with no thought for tommorrow.
And why should talat accept tassos telling him where to spend, the only reason why the gc want it to go through them(they want that global package to be spent on refurbishing churches and graveyards) that does not help tc one little bit hence its a scam.

Yet again the natural resources through the gc admin is being tried but from what i have heard lots of restrictions exist, so not very helpful either.

I think direct flights, lifting of sanctions etc. would actually assist the solution but that is my opinion, and yours is the opposite, so it may help to agree to disagree on that perspective.

[BigDutch]

Those that you have quoted are just three examples that are highly publicised by the gc admin. and are in effect just not enough but like giving a poor man a loaf of bread to feed him today with no thought for tommorrow.

I felt the proposed movements are more like give him a loaf and seeds, so he can eat today and make his own bread for tomorrow.

And why should talat accept tassos telling him where to spend, the only reason why the gc want it to go through them(they want that global package to be spent on refurbishing churches and graveyards) that does not help tc one little bit hence its a scam.

The RoC is recognised world-wide as government of the whole island, surely this is why they would want to administor how and where the money is spent improving infrastructure across the whole RoC, even the occupied zones.

Is where the RoC intends to spend the money a published document or a concern on your/TC part ?

Yet again the natural resources through the gc admin is being tried but from what i have heard lots of restrictions exist, so not very helpful either.

After 30+ years of partition and mis-trust i`m sure there are a hell of a lot of problems in easy trade across a cease-fire line. Effort and money should be spent in this specific area to make it far easier, and more efficient.

I think direct flights, lifting of sanctions etc. would actually assist the solution but that is my opinion, and yours is the opposite, so it may help to agree to disagree on that perspective.

I completely respect your opinion, and it has given me more understanding of your perspective. If more and more people understood other peoples concerns and opinions then progress can be made. No dialogue breeds mistrust.

What are your thoughts on a co-administration on the Famagusta port ?

[brother]

I think that would work and help build trust and confidense in each other, if both sides are serious for solution and unification this port should open jointly with no delay imo.

[BigDutch]

What is actually causing the delay regarding the Famagusta proposal anyway ?

[brother]

From what i am to believe tassos wants varosha for this to happen and talat wants a gc run port to be joint aswell, so in short they are both making unacceptable demand from each other and losing sight of the bigger picture.

[insan]

While Talat is expecting and waiting for a comprehensive regulation concerning direct trrade and end of economic sanctions to be approved by EU, Tassos is trying to prevent this by asserting "I'm the only legitimate representative of whole Cyprus."


He proposed the Famagusta port to be run by together. What would our communal status be? People of occupation regime or citizens of "RoC"(Not RoC) living in occupied areas.

Thus, Tassos would show the whole world that TC leadership recognize the "RoC" and prove that TCs are citizens of "RoC" living in occupied areas.


However neither Talat nor his cadres and Turkey are naive and stupid not to realize of the GC scheme.

[metecyp]

Thus, Tassos would show the whole world that TC leadership recognize the "RoC" and prove that TCs are citizens of "RoC" living in occupied areas.

Exactly. All he wants is expansion of the structure in the south (not even the RoC) to the north and all his "measures" are aimed for this.

Our GC friends need to realize that even though the RoC is legally the only government of Cyprus, it does not represent TCs. A future solution will be bizonal federation and and until that solution is reached, we have today's situation and TCs have to survive in this situation. What do you want us to do? Not accept any tourists, not export any fruits, etc. until you guys decide it's time for a solution?

[Piratis]

until you guys decide it's time for a solution?

No, until you guys decide it's time for a solution.

Why should you be allowed to act illegally until we accept your demands?

[BigDutch]

While Talat is expecting and waiting for a comprehensive regulation concerning direct trrade and end of economic sanctions to be approved by EU, Tassos is trying to prevent this by asserting "I'm the only legitimate representative of whole Cyprus."

My belief is that direct-trade will cement the partition. The RoC don't want this - does the "TRNC" ?

He proposed the Famagusta port to be run by together. What would our communal status be? People of occupation regime or citizens of "RoC"(Not RoC) living in occupied areas.

Why does the "status" matter at this stage ? You are trading and working together as communities, another stepping stone with a view to unification of one country under one flag. Is this not the aim ?

Thus, Tassos would show the whole world that TC leadership recognize the "RoC" and prove that TCs are citizens of "RoC" living in occupied areas.

The world (bar one country) already see RoC as only state in Cyprus, and that the areas are occupied by a foreign force. What will Tassos "show" the world exactly ?

However neither Talat nor his cadres and Turkey are not naive and stupid not to realize of the GC scheme.

Talat and Turkey are against the unification then ?

[metecyp]

Why should you be allowed to act illegally until we accept your demands?

We're not acting illegally, we're just trying to survive. Take me as an example. I was born in the north, it wasn't my choice. Am I acting illegally just because I happen to live in the north and my existance in the north might mean that I need to use previously GC owned facilities such as hotels, shops, etc?

Besides, you're not acting illegally? Your side owns the RoC with no TC representation and benefits from an internationally recognized state. On top of this, you have National Guards and you're telling me that you're not acting illegally. I don't blame you though. You're just trying to survive in the situation. But you want TCs to cease to exist until you decide a solution is fair and acceptable to you.