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[humanist]

CV you are full of it mate. The only thing the Brits living in Cyprus are interested in is the sun. With an ex-pat population of a sizeable number I did not see any of you protest in-front of the British embasy the other day when Brown sold out Cyprus by recognising the occupied territory of Cyprus as "trnc".

[phoenix]

CV you are full of it mate. The only thing the Brits living in Cyprus are interested in is the sun. With an ex-pat population of a sizeable number I did not see any of you protest in-front of the British embasy the other day when Brown sold out Cyprus by recognising the occupied territory of Cyprus as "trnc".

Well said, and an astutely observed point Humanist.

Maybe CV fancies himself as a modern day Lord Byron?

I'm sure CV's sentiment is in the right place, but Cypriots have been betrayed by outsiders too often to let their guard down and rely on anyone living in Cyprus to truly want the best for Cyprus . . . e.g. like the mess the TCs have made for the island.

[EPSILON]

Yes i thought that might grab your attention. You need to start getting your problem onto the World stage again, start ruffling a few feathers, get yourself a decent spin doctor on the government, swamp the green line with troops on a military exercise, just crank up the tension and watch the Worlds ears prick up.

What we need is concerted action to get the talks started again , not troops marching up and down the green line. Our politicians are a bunch of amateurs having been taught their diplomatic skills by the Greek amateurs !!
They portray Cyprus on the world stage according to all International proclamations that Cyprus is an independent nation , yet they have a foreign national anthem that enrages the T/Cs just as flying the Turkish flag enrages the G/Cs.

Meltiate, not you , not your stupid ideas supporters can change our nationality and national anthem-we are still the 85 per cent of Gcs- you are just a minority like Tcs are

[boomerang]

Haven't you lot done enough?...Screw your Greek nationality, screw your greek flag and screw your national anthem...clear enough?

How many times are you gonna sell your soul to the devil?

[phoenix]

Yes i thought that might grab your attention. You need to start getting your problem onto the World stage again, start ruffling a few feathers, get yourself a decent spin doctor on the government, swamp the green line with troops on a military exercise, just crank up the tension and watch the Worlds ears prick up.

This would be tantamount to suicide for Cyprus. Ruffling Bush's feathers in such an extraordinary outright act of aggression would turn us into another US victim like Iran at the moment and Iraq of the past / present with their alleged active nuclear weapons programs. Do you think the US would allow nuclear capability ascension anywhere else in the World?

Morally, why degenerate to conducting our affairs in such a primitive manner? Radiation cannot be recalled back once detonated and the environmental consequences have to be endured for decades.

Cyprus is not an aggressive country . . . so why play aggressive games because of our despair. Turkey would love us to reach her level of depravity against humanity.

With nuclear weapons, win or lose the battle against the Turks we would lose our self-respect for ever.

we can all see where bullshit talks and not being aggressive has got us cant we! had we given the russians the base they asked for in the beginning all this could have been avoided!

. . . out of the frying pan into the fire.
I have nothing against Russia, but I think Cyprus has to abide by the highest principles and "giving" any part of Cyprus in exchange for favours is not the way forward to untroubled independence.

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

Yes i thought that might grab your attention. You need to start getting your problem onto the World stage again, start ruffling a few feathers, get yourself a decent spin doctor on the government, swamp the green line with troops on a military exercise, just crank up the tension and watch the Worlds ears prick up.

This would be tantamount to suicide for Cyprus. Ruffling Bush's feathers in such an extraordinary outright act of aggression would turn us into another US victim like Iran at the moment and Iraq of the past / present with their alleged active nuclear weapons programs. Do you think the US would allow nuclear capability ascension anywhere else in the World?

Morally, why degenerate to conducting our affairs in such a primitive manner? Radiation cannot be recalled back once detonated and the environmental consequences have to be endured for decades.

Cyprus is not an aggressive country . . . so why play aggressive games because of our despair. Turkey would love us to reach her level of depravity against humanity.

With nuclear weapons, win or lose the battle against the Turks we would lose our self-respect for ever.

we can all see where bullshit talks and not being aggressive has got us cant we! had we given the russians the base they asked for in the beginning all this could have been avoided!

. . . out of the frying pan into the fire.
I have nothing against Russia, but I think Cyprus has to abide by the highest principles and "giving" any part of Cyprus in exchange for favours is not the way forward to untroubled independence.

i like the way you roll your eyes and dismiss the fact that the russians could have made a better job back then than what happened by not having them, so come on then clever what would you have done or still do? its fools like you who said back then "EN NA GINOUMEN KOMMOUNISTES" that fucked our country forever cos guess what by not siding with russia we became turkish! i know what i`d rather be ! you people make me laugh you are still making the same mistakes 40 years later! wake up cyprus! although it`s probably already too late!

[phoenix]

Yes i thought that might grab your attention. You need to start getting your problem onto the World stage again, start ruffling a few feathers, get yourself a decent spin doctor on the government, swamp the green line with troops on a military exercise, just crank up the tension and watch the Worlds ears prick up.

This would be tantamount to suicide for Cyprus. Ruffling Bush's feathers in such an extraordinary outright act of aggression would turn us into another US victim like Iran at the moment and Iraq of the past / present with their alleged active nuclear weapons programs. Do you think the US would allow nuclear capability ascension anywhere else in the World?

Morally, why degenerate to conducting our affairs in such a primitive manner? Radiation cannot be recalled back once detonated and the environmental consequences have to be endured for decades.

Cyprus is not an aggressive country . . . so why play aggressive games because of our despair. Turkey would love us to reach her level of depravity against humanity.

With nuclear weapons, win or lose the battle against the Turks we would lose our self-respect for ever.

we can all see where bullshit talks and not being aggressive has got us cant we! had we given the russians the base they asked for in the beginning all this could have been avoided!

. . . out of the frying pan into the fire.
I have nothing against Russia, but I think Cyprus has to abide by the highest principles and "giving" any part of Cyprus in exchange for favours is not the way forward to untroubled independence.

i like the way you roll your eyes and dismiss the fact that the russians could have made a better job back then than what happened by not having them, so come on then clever what would you have done or still do? its fools like you who said back then "EN NA GINOUMEN KOMMOUNISTES" that fucked our country forever cos guess what by not siding with russia we became turkish! i know what i`d rather be ! you people make me laugh you are still making the same mistakes 40 years later! wake up cyprus! although it`s probably already too late!

Dinos . . . it's not fear of communism that bothers me . . . most of my dad's family were communists and I'm a socialist, so as I said I have no issue with Russia. Perhaps they would have been the lesser of two evils.

BUT my point is that Cyprus should be looking to becoming truly independent, without donating parts to other countries.

As members of the EU we have all the backing we should need now, without recourse to allowing outsiders to have bases....

Oh yeah, so what is the UK still doing having unwanted Bases in a fellow EU country?

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

Yes i thought that might grab your attention. You need to start getting your problem onto the World stage again, start ruffling a few feathers, get yourself a decent spin doctor on the government, swamp the green line with troops on a military exercise, just crank up the tension and watch the Worlds ears prick up.

This would be tantamount to suicide for Cyprus. Ruffling Bush's feathers in such an extraordinary outright act of aggression would turn us into another US victim like Iran at the moment and Iraq of the past / present with their alleged active nuclear weapons programs. Do you think the US would allow nuclear capability ascension anywhere else in the World?

Morally, why degenerate to conducting our affairs in such a primitive manner? Radiation cannot be recalled back once detonated and the environmental consequences have to be endured for decades.

Cyprus is not an aggressive country . . . so why play aggressive games because of our despair. Turkey would love us to reach her level of depravity against humanity.

With nuclear weapons, win or lose the battle against the Turks we would lose our self-respect for ever.

we can all see where bullshit talks and not being aggressive has got us cant we! had we given the russians the base they asked for in the beginning all this could have been avoided!

. . . out of the frying pan into the fire.
I have nothing against Russia, but I think Cyprus has to abide by the highest principles and "giving" any part of Cyprus in exchange for favours is not the way forward to untroubled independence.

i like the way you roll your eyes and dismiss the fact that the russians could have made a better job back then than what happened by not having them, so come on then clever what would you have done or still do? its fools like you who said back then "EN NA GINOUMEN KOMMOUNISTES" that fucked our country forever cos guess what by not siding with russia we became turkish! i know what i`d rather be ! you people make me laugh you are still making the same mistakes 40 years later! wake up cyprus! although it`s probably already too late!

Dinos . . . it's not fear of communism that bothers me . . . most of my dad's family were communists and I'm a socialist, so as I said I have no issue with Russia. Perhaps they would have been the lesser of two evils.

BUT my point is that Cyprus should be looking to becoming truly independent, without donating parts to other countries.

As members of the EU we have all the backing we should need now, without recourse to allowing outsiders to have bases....

Oh yeah, so what is the UK still doing having unwanted Bases in a fellow EU country?

but dont you see that we will achieve nothing anymore! do you really believe that the eu are gonna do anything? will they fuck, all they are gonna do is put turkey in the eu and then its game over! and do you really believe that the english bases are just gonna get up and leave? cos if so you are deluded! russia should have been given a base, thats it no english and no turks! they wouldnt dare!

[phoenix]

but dont you see that we will achieve nothing anymore! do you really believe that the eu are gonna do anything? will they fuck, all they are gonna do is put turkey in the eu and then its game over! and do you really believe that the english bases are just gonna get up and leave? cos if so you are deluded! russia should have been given a base, thats it no english and no turks! they wouldnt dare!

We are the EU . . . the EU are are not outsiders. If we don't want Turkey in the EU (and there are certainly more countries that agree with us than disagree), there is no fear she will be allowed entry. So take that factor out of your horrific equation.

I don't expect the British Bases to go unless we make enough fuss . . . perhaps they should be used more as a bargaining tool to stop Britain supporting Turkey so much.

As for giving Russia a base, why so free and easy with giving things away? Selling is easy . . . buying back is the hard part.

. . . no reason for rolling eyes . . .

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

but dont you see that we will achieve nothing anymore! do you really believe that the eu are gonna do anything? will they fuck, all they are gonna do is put turkey in the eu and then its game over! and do you really believe that the english bases are just gonna get up and leave? cos if so you are deluded! russia should have been given a base, thats it no english and no turks! they wouldnt dare!

We are the EU . . . the EU are are not outsiders. If we don't want Turkey in the EU (and there are certainly more countries that agree with us than disagree), there is no fear she will be allowed entry. So take that factor out of your horrific equation.

I don't expect the British Bases to go unless we make enough fuss . . . perhaps they should be used more as a bargaining tool to stop Britain supporting Turkey so much.

As for giving Russia a base, why so free and easy with giving things away? Selling is easy . . . buying back is the hard part.

. . . no reason for rolling eyes . . .

the eu will do exactly what uk and usa tell them to do-fact. no-one will put themselves out for us! the british will never leave which is why they never should have been here in the first place, we should have had russia in their place and then turkey wouldnt have been able to do fuck all, there wouldnt be 1 turkish or english troop on the island now -fact- so what would have been better a russian base or as many english for as long as they want , plus half the island full of turks! you think about it! i know what i would rather have! the russians even tried recently with the s300 missile thing, and what did we do? we fucked them over again and sold out to the anglo-americans- therefore we get what we deserve! you will get nowhere with talks and if you believe that you are deluded! you have to fight for everything in life and cypriots have proved time and time again they are not willing to stand up for themselves they are more interested in selling themselves and eachother! money is the most important thing to most greek cypriots, and politically, they keep making the same mistakes