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Postby utu » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:31 am

If Turkish Cypriots in the south are going to be allowed to vote, does this mean that there will be a candidate for the office of Vice President? THe 1960 constitution does state clearly that a Turkish Cypriot must fill this post.
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:40 am

utu wrote:If Turkish Cypriots in the south are going to be allowed to vote, does this mean that there will be a candidate for the office of Vice President? THe 1960 constitution does state clearly that a Turkish Cypriot must fill this post.


does it also state there must be two seperate states TRNC and ROC>
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Postby utu » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:02 am

paliometoxo wrote:
utu wrote:If Turkish Cypriots in the south are going to be allowed to vote, does this mean that there will be a candidate for the office of Vice President? THe 1960 constitution does state clearly that a Turkish Cypriot must fill this post.


does it also state there must be two seperate states TRNC and ROC>



Not in the least. You don't need to be concerned about my stance on this matter, Paliometoxo (or is it Darth Vader?), as I don't support partition, but given that the Constitution of 1960 is still in force, the office of Vice President (vacant since December 1963) is still official, and that means it has to be filled - as the constitution stipulates - by a Turkish Cypriot, elected by the Turkish Cypriot electorate. That means - IMHO - that if there are elections going ahead - which Turkish Cypriots residing south of the Green Line are permitted to vote in, would be able to elect a candidate for that post.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:21 am

utu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
utu wrote:If Turkish Cypriots in the south are going to be allowed to vote, does this mean that there will be a candidate for the office of Vice President? THe 1960 constitution does state clearly that a Turkish Cypriot must fill this post.


does it also state there must be two seperate states TRNC and ROC>



Not in the least. You don't need to be concerned about my stance on this matter, Paliometoxo (or is it Darth Vader?), as I don't support partition, but given that the Constitution of 1960 is still in force, the office of Vice President (vacant since December 1963) is still official, and that means it has to be filled - as the constitution stipulates - by a Turkish Cypriot, elected by the Turkish Cypriot electorate. That means - IMHO - that if there are elections going ahead - which Turkish Cypriots residing south of the Green Line are permitted to vote in, would be able to elect a candidate for that post.



GCs would blow the south to kingdom come rather than allow there to be a TC vice president, the mentality in the south has not changed since 1963 and even the EU has not had any impact, all they have done is make them abide by a few rules. GC see the island a Greek island and they do not want TCs involved thats why TCs believe that sharing is not the GC prime objective.
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Postby humanist » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:52 am

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your answers are inside the Cyprus constitution.
PART IV.-THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ARTICLE 61
The legislative power of the Republic shall be exercised by the House of Representatives in all matters except those expressly reserved to the Communal Chambers under this Constitution.

ARTICLE 62
1. The number of Representatives shall be fifty:
Provided that such number may be altered by a resolution of the House of Representatives carried by a majority comprising two¬thirds of the
Representatives elected by the Greek Community and two¬thirds of the Representatives elected by the Turkish Community.
2. Out of the number of Representatives provided in paragraph 1 of this Article seventy per centum shall be elected by the Greek Community and thirty per centum by the Turkish Community separately from amongst their members respectively, and in the case of a contested election, by universal suffrage and by direct and secret ballot held on the same day.
The proportion of Representatives stated in this paragraph shall be independent of any statistical data.

ARTICLE 63
1. Subject to paragraph 2 of this Article every citizen of the Republic who has attained the age of twenty¬one years and has such residential qualifications as may be prescribed by the Electoral Law shall have the right to be registered as an elector in either the Greek or the Turkish electoral list:
Provided that the members of the Greek Community shall only be registered in the Greek electoral list and the members of the Turkish Community shall only be registered in the Turkish electoral list. 2. No person shall be qualified to be registered as an elector who is disqualified for such registration by virtue of the Electoral Law.

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Postby humanist » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:57 am

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If Turkish Cypriots in the south are going to be allowed to vote, does this mean that there will be a candidate for the office of Vice President? THe 1960 constitution does state clearly that a Turkish Cyprio


utu, as you are aware I have no respect for you what so ever. However, this is about the best post you have put forth.

My guess is that no there wont be a candidate for the Vice Presidency. I wish there was. I believe the reason that there wont be is that the 1960's constitution is currently defunct (in an un official kinda way) and has been since the Turkish invasion in 1974 and the Turkish speaking Cypriots choosing to live separately and supporting the illegal regime in the occupied areas of Cyprus. However turkish Cypriots wishing to run as MP's within a party of their choice is welcomed as was the case in the last election.
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Postby utu » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:57 pm

humanist wrote:utu
If Turkish Cypriots in the south are going to be allowed to vote, does this mean that there will be a candidate for the office of Vice President? THe 1960 constitution does state clearly that a Turkish Cyprio


utu, as you are aware I have no respect for you what so ever. However, this is about the best post you have put forth.

My guess is that no there wont be a candidate for the Vice Presidency. I wish there was. I believe the reason that there wont be is that the 1960's constitution is currently defunct (in an un official kinda way) and has been since the Turkish invasion in 1974 and the Turkish speaking Cypriots choosing to live separately and supporting the illegal regime in the occupied areas of Cyprus. However turkish Cypriots wishing to run as MP's within a party of their choice is welcomed as was the case in the last election.


Well Humanist, I guess the feeling is mutual between us. So now that we have the pleasantries out of the way, it would be a good idea for the RoCy citizens of Turkish descent living in the south put up a candidate. It would be a great symbol of reconciliation having that post filled, plus it weould give to that person the ligitimacy that the administration north of the Green Line would lack. That person (the VP) would have to swear allegiance to the constitution and make it clear that the Northern Cypriot administration is an outlaw.
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Postby Sega » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:04 pm

I won't be voting at all, I feel that these political votes are more or less fixed by people who belong to extreme political parties i.e. right or left wings. If the TC want to vote they can do, they can have my vote. :-)
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Postby humanist » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:37 pm

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Well Humanist, I guess the feeling is mutual between us. So now that we have the pleasantries out of the way, it would be a good idea for the RoCy citizens of Turkish descent living in the south put up a candidate. It would be a great symbol of reconciliation having that post filled, plus it weould give to that person the ligitimacy that the administration north of the Green Line would lack. That person (the VP) would have to swear allegiance to the constitution and make it clear that the Northern Cypriot administration is an outlaw.



like I said earlier best post you have placed.
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Postby utu » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:43 pm

humanist wrote:utu
Well Humanist, I guess the feeling is mutual between us. So now that we have the pleasantries out of the way, it would be a good idea for the RoCy citizens of Turkish descent living in the south put up a candidate. It would be a great symbol of reconciliation having that post filled, plus it weould give to that person the ligitimacy that the administration north of the Green Line would lack. That person (the VP) would have to swear allegiance to the constitution and make it clear that the Northern Cypriot administration is an outlaw.



like I said earlier best post you have placed.



Well, I must have some respect for you for saying that. Thank you.
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