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TC's To Vote 2008 Cyprus Election - This is equality

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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:28 pm

humanist wrote:I have question........ can a Morphiti for example who speaks Turkish and who was originally from Morphou be able to vote in 2008 elections? How would that work for those Cypriots who have always lived in the north (now occupied areas of Cyprus).


No they cannot becuase they reside in the TRNC and not the GC state "RoC".
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Postby humanist » Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:59 am

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No they cannot becuase they reside in the TRNC and not the GC state "RoC".


thank you VP for your response.

I feel there is something ethically wrong here, as there is no such thing as "trnc" I fail to see why the lawful government of the RoC does not extend those voting rights to all its citizens.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:19 am

humanist wrote:VP
No they cannot becuase they reside in the TRNC and not the GC state "RoC".


thank you VP for your response.

I feel there is something ethically wrong here, as there is no such thing as "trnc" I fail to see why the lawful government of the RoC does not extend those voting rights to all its citizens.


They do not want TCs medelling in their affairs as they have labelled all those that reside in the TRNC traitors, but are happy to take the same traitors money in the stores. Ironic dont you think?
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Postby humanist » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:35 am

I am not sure that is a true account, you are proposing VP. I have never heard of any Greek speaking Cypriot who calls a Turkish speaking Cypriot living in the occupied areas traitors.

Personally I have no problem with that all. If your home was in the north of Cyprus and you were lucky not to be killed by the Turkish invading army in 1974, if you stayed behind then you are just living in your home and oght to be allowed to vote. It might actually make a difference in government action towards unification, because the TC"s will impact election results. I think that is a good thing also positive for the RoC in that it can prove that TC's want to return to the 1960's constitution.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:01 am

humanist wrote:I am not sure that is a true account, you are proposing VP. I have never heard of any Greek speaking Cypriot who calls a Turkish speaking Cypriot living in the occupied areas traitors.

Personally I have no problem with that all. If your home was in the north of Cyprus and you were lucky not to be killed by the Turkish invading army in 1974, if you stayed behind then you are just living in your home and oght to be allowed to vote. It might actually make a difference in government action towards unification, because the TC"s will impact election results. I think that is a good thing also positive for the RoC in that it can prove that TC's want to return to the 1960's constitution.


You are again living in total utopia and I wish to remind you that TCs living in the north asked for their rights back but were rejected, thye are now taking the case to the ECHR.

Trying tell your leaders your ideas I am pretty certain they will tell you what they think but it might not be what you want to hear.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:18 am

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humanist wrote:I am not sure that is a true account, you are proposing VP. I have never heard of any Greek speaking Cypriot who calls a Turkish speaking Cypriot living in the occupied areas traitors.

Personally I have no problem with that all. If your home was in the north of Cyprus and you were lucky not to be killed by the Turkish invading army in 1974, if you stayed behind then you are just living in your home and oght to be allowed to vote. It might actually make a difference in government action towards unification, because the TC"s will impact election results. I think that is a good thing also positive for the RoC in that it can prove that TC's want to return to the 1960's constitution.


You are again living in total utopia and I wish to remind you that TCs living in the north asked for their rights back but were rejected, thye are now taking the case to the ECHR.

Trying tell your leaders your ideas I am pretty certain they will tell you what they think but it might not be what you want to hear.


You mind showing me when you asked for your rights back, since the invasion and ethnic cleansing?

If you got your rights back wouldn't that mean everyone would get to go back to their houses?...illegalities stop and legalities begin?...
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Postby observer » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:50 am

humanist wrote:
I am not sure that is a true account, you are proposing VP. I have never heard of any Greek speaking Cypriot who calls a Turkish speaking Cypriot living in the occupied areas traitors.

phoenix wrote:
But I still think it rewards the TCs who have betrayed our country and that is not right
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14708&start=110

I thought that phoenix was being a bit irrational at the time.
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Postby halil » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:11 pm

humanist wrote:VP
No they cannot becuase they reside in the TRNC and not the GC state "RoC".


thank you VP for your response.

I feel there is something ethically wrong here, as there is no such thing as "trnc" I fail to see why the lawful government of the RoC does not extend those voting rights to all its citizens.


Humanist ,
your answers are inside the Cyprus constitution.
PART IV.-THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ARTICLE 61
The legislative power of the Republic shall be exercised by the House of Representatives in all matters except those expressly reserved to the Communal Chambers under this Constitution.

ARTICLE 62
1. The number of Representatives shall be fifty:
Provided that such number may be altered by a resolution of the House of Representatives carried by a majority comprising two¬thirds of the
Representatives elected by the Greek Community and two¬thirds of the Representatives elected by the Turkish Community.
2. Out of the number of Representatives provided in paragraph 1 of this Article seventy per centum shall be elected by the Greek Community and thirty per centum by the Turkish Community separately from amongst their members respectively, and in the case of a contested election, by universal suffrage and by direct and secret ballot held on the same day.
The proportion of Representatives stated in this paragraph shall be independent of any statistical data.

ARTICLE 63
1. Subject to paragraph 2 of this Article every citizen of the Republic who has attained the age of twenty¬one years and has such residential qualifications as may be prescribed by the Electoral Law shall have the right to be registered as an elector in either the Greek or the Turkish electoral list:
Provided that the members of the Greek Community shall only be registered in the Greek electoral list and the members of the Turkish Community shall only be registered in the Turkish electoral list. 2. No person shall be qualified to be registered as an elector who is disqualified for such registration by virtue of the Electoral Law.
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Postby humanist » Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:23 pm

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You are again living in total utopia and I wish to remind you that TCs living in the north asked for their rights back but were rejected, thye are now taking the case to the ECHR.

Trying tell your leaders your ideas I am pretty certain they will tell you what they think but it might not be what you want to hear.


VP I like living in Utopia so if you and the rest of so called camp want to put me down for doing so it will not happen. I know who I am and what i stand for and thast is UNITY.

I am glad that Turkish speaking Cypriots have taken their case to the ECHR and I hope they win. Positive outcomes will follow because if they win hey we are a step closer to unified Cyprus (an outcome that I would welcome anyday). Secondly if the ECHR demands that the outcome be implemented then it will shoot itself in the foot if it does not excercise the same ddemands of Turkeyto adheer to the findings. Either way CYPRUS wins.

Monoculturalism sucks anyway and I would love to see them win....... Good luck on that endeavour by the way and I hope they also win their case against the Tochni masacre that is also pending in the ECHR I believe.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:30 pm

humanist wrote:VP
You are again living in total utopia and I wish to remind you that TCs living in the north asked for their rights back but were rejected, thye are now taking the case to the ECHR.

Trying tell your leaders your ideas I am pretty certain they will tell you what they think but it might not be what you want to hear.


VP I like living in Utopia so if you and the rest of so called camp want to put me down for doing so it will not happen. I know who I am and what i stand for and thast is UNITY.

I am glad that Turkish speaking Cypriots have taken their case to the ECHR and I hope they win. Positive outcomes will follow because if they win hey we are a step closer to unified Cyprus (an outcome that I would welcome anyday). Secondly if the ECHR demands that the outcome be implemented then it will shoot itself in the foot if it does not excercise the same ddemands of Turkeyto adheer to the findings. Either way CYPRUS wins.

Monoculturalism sucks anyway and I would love to see them win....... Good luck on that endeavour by the way and I hope they also win their case against the Tochni masacre that is also pending in the ECHR I believe.


You still do not know your own people, GCs are greedy they do not want to share jack shit with TCs, they want a GC state run by GCs for GCs which they have today all they really want is land and in order to do this they label it unity and we are all Cypriots as long as they are the numerical majority. Although I respect your right to want unity you shoudl return the favor for my right to want agreed partition becuase I can see what you cant and never will.
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