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[Viewpoint]

And before you ask I put all this colours not just to make it Luna park but to draw it for you in case we manage to communicate better!

Im not asking for 50% of the island I said agreed Division this would mean return of land, giving rights that you should have given years ago to people you have no control over and they do not claim to have any links with the Gc south is not worth very much. It will only come into play if we unite.

[Tim Drayton]

The only snag is that TC votes are now being combined with GC votes in a way that makes a mockery of the 1960 constitution.

[LENA]

And before you ask I put all this colours not just to make it Luna park but to draw it for you in case we manage to communicate better!

Im not asking for 50% of the island I said agreed Division this would mean return of land, giving rights that you should have given years ago to people you have no control over and they do not claim to have any links with the Gc south is not worth very much. It will only come into play if we unite.

[Viewpoint]

The only snag is that TC votes are now being combined with GC votes in a way that makes a mockery of the 1960 constitution.

Does it make any difference Tim? may make a mockery of the "RoC" Constitution but in the grand scheme of things these votes will not effect the end result, which throws light on what would happen in a unitary state as demanded by GCs.

[observer]

Tim Drayton wrote:
"The only snag is that TC votes are now being combined with GC votes in a way that makes a mockery of the 1960 constitution."

The GCs have been making a mockery of the constitution since 1963, so nothing changes there.

[Tim Drayton]

The only snag is that TC votes are now being combined with GC votes in a way that makes a mockery of the 1960 constitution.

Does it make any difference Tim? may make a mockery of the "RoC" Constitution but in the grand scheme of things these votes will not effect the end result, which throws light on what would happen in a unitary state as demanded by GCs.

Won't it make any difference? It looks like being a very close race. Imagine one candidate ends up winning the second round by a few hundred votes. Under that scenario, the TC votes would end up having swung the result.

[LENA]

The only snag is that TC votes are now being combined with GC votes in a way that makes a mockery of the 1960 constitution.

Does it make any difference Tim? may make a mockery of the "RoC" Constitution but in the grand scheme of things these votes will not effect the end result, which throws light on what would happen in a unitary state as demanded by GCs.

Won't it make any difference? It looks like being a very close race. Imagine one candidate ends up winning the second round by a few hundred votes. Under that scenario, the TC votes would end up having swung the result.

Well said!

[Viewpoint]

The only snag is that TC votes are now being combined with GC votes in a way that makes a mockery of the 1960 constitution.

Does it make any difference Tim? may make a mockery of the "RoC" Constitution but in the grand scheme of things these votes will not effect the end result, which throws light on what would happen in a unitary state as demanded by GCs.

Won't it make any difference? It looks like being a very close race. Imagine one candidate ends up winning the second round by a few hundred votes. Under that scenario, the TC votes would end up having swung the result.

Well said!

Its never that close if a few hundred TC votes can make a difference Ill eat my hat.

[LENA]

The only snag is that TC votes are now being combined with GC votes in a way that makes a mockery of the 1960 constitution.

Does it make any difference Tim? may make a mockery of the "RoC" Constitution but in the grand scheme of things these votes will not effect the end result, which throws light on what would happen in a unitary state as demanded by GCs.

Won't it make any difference? It looks like being a very close race. Imagine one candidate ends up winning the second round by a few hundred votes. Under that scenario, the TC votes would end up having swung the result.

Well said!

Its never that close if a few hundred TC votes can make a difference Ill eat my hat.

Bon apetit!

VP dnt understand why you are like that. You asked about this fair rights in voting. Yes few votes can make the difference, few month ago you were complaining that TC dont have the right to vote so they cannot say what they want they cannot get the representative they want. (I am not saying that we are at the stage that we will have a TC leader but may be soon)

This is the first stage and you are so negative why should we move on to a second step? Few votes can change a lot and in my opinion in the upcoming elections!

[Tim Drayton]

This question of voting rights and the 1960 constitution may seem like a technicality, but I think a whole can of worms has been opened. As most people are probably aware, at the time of the 2006 elections to the House of Representatives, a group of pro-reunification TCs, most notably Mustafa Akıncı and Ali Erel, applied to stand in these elections for the seats allocated to the Turkish Cypriots. This application was refused. I believe that this group is now challenging the result of this election in the European Court of Human rights on the grounds that it was unconstitutional, and specifically because TCs are required under the 1960 constitution to cast their votes for TC candidates contesting the seats reserved for TCs.
The only basis for the claim on the part of the present RoC government to be the legitimate government of the whole island is the 1960 constitution. Remove that basis and you are on very shaky ground!
The following article is about the bid by a group of Turkish Cypriots to stand for the vacant TC seats in parliament:

http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/200 ... .tcpr.html

[02] Turkish Cypriots who applied for candidacy in the forthcoming elections disclose that their aim is to recourse to the European Court of Human Rights
Turkish Cypriot daily AFRIKA newspaper (03.03.06) reports that Mr Mustafa Akinci, the chairman of the Peace and Democracy Movement (BHD), stated that those who reacted against the demand of the Turkish Cypriots to get back their rights to vote and get elected from the 1960 agreements are those who are nourished from the status quo in both sides of the island.
He stated that one meaning of this initiative is to set a motion in the Cyprus problem and added that it is very natural for those who put the Cyprus problem in the refrigerator and who are nourished from the status quo to react against this initiative.

Akinci who said that the Republic of Cyprus wants to turn the Turkish Cypriots into minority with the amendments it has made to the laws, stated that if they do not react to these amendments, it means that they overlook this oppression and that they consent to the minority rights of the Turkish Cypriots. He added that according to the answer that they will receive, they will carry this initiative to the European Court of Human Rights. Mr Akinci also said that there is no doubt that the outcome will be in favour of the Turkish Cypriots. He said that as Titina Loizidou demanded and was able to win her individual private property rights without waiting for the solution of the Cyprus problem, the Turkish Cypriots will recover their community rights through pressure and they can open the road for a bi-communal, bi-zonal solution. He also said that this is the time for the Turkish Cypriots to claim their communal rights, to raise their voice against the Greek Cypriot administration that makes laws that will turn them into minority and to make concrete steps.

In addition, in statements to BAYRAK television yesterday afternoon (02.03.06), Mr Akinci said that a law office is already carrying out work about applying to the European Court of Human rights depending on the letter they will receive from the Minister of Interior Mr Andreas Christou.

Mr Akinci was asked to comment by a Bayrak journalist on accusations that he is a member of the Republican Assembly of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and at the same time he applied for candidacy to become a member of the House of Representatives of the Republic of Cyprus.

In addition, as AFRIKA (03.03.06) reports, speaking on the same subject, the former Chairman of the Turkish Cypriot Chamber of Commerce Mr Ali Erel, stated that they do keep their hopes that they will receive a positive answer from the Greek Cypriot side and added that they will wait for 30 days to receive an answer. He noted that the demand that they conveyed to the Minister of Interior Mr Andreas Christou, they have also conveyed to the Secretary-General of the UN, to EU organs and the guarantor states.

On his part, Mr Rasih Keskiner, the secretary of the New Cyprus Party, speaking about the same issue, stated that it is a good intention initiative and that his party support this movement.