Nikitas wrote:"Wrong. there will never be a fair plan since the one part is the winner of a war.!!!!!and is still continue to have the military power. " says Epsilon.
This idea that we lost a war and then suffered a diplomatic defeat is very much in the foreground when "progressive" mainland Greek politicians speak in the media. An almost exact statement was made during the talks of the Annan plan by Stefanos Tzoumakas (forme minister and founding member of PASOK party).
Now you Greek Cypriots in this forum listen to this logic carefully: Greece attempted to overturn the lawful governemtn of Cyprus, it failed, but this attempt did give Turkey an excuse to indave and grab a third of the island. In other words Greece risked not an inch of its own territory, it caused Cyprus to lose a third of its territory, and now some Greek politician are suggesting that WE get realistic over this! It is a "we fought, you lost" type of deal.
A logical response to this kind of thinking would be: well, you fought, you lost, how about you giving Mytilene and Chios to Turkey so we can have our land back? Not acceptable, huh! Now you can see our point of view a little better I hope Epsilon.
Another note for Cypriots here. During the debates in Greece over the Annan plan, some "journalists" said that Afxentiou and Matsis and Karaolis had carried out ethnic cleansing against Turkish Cypriots. The anchormen hosting the talks said nothing to contravene this gross lie. Only in ONE instance there was a Cypriot journalist who reminded these assholes that these men had been killed or executed by the British by March 1957 and the first intercommunal clashes started a year later.
An interesting footnote- some of these "journalists" are paid by the US embassy for "briefings" and familiarisation lectures and a few have grown quite rich in the last few years. All of them were in favor of the Annan plan.
Bearing in mind also that when Cyprus was offered to Greece ON A PLATE it was rejected , ok there was the condition of Greece participating militarily on the side of the British , yet there are still people who are suffering from the incessant brainwashing that they are GREEKS !!
As far I'm concerned the Greek politicians are the worlds worst diplomats after Rober Mugabe's lot !!! They have nothing to teach us , we have nothing to gain from them or their social and family structures. The needy and the sick are treated in a disgraceful manner by the public at large , they are a crafty race only interested in artificial gains .Those wishing to join Greece can f..of to Greece , and those wishing to join the other jokers can also piss of Turkey. WE DO NOT NEED EITHER OF THESE FOREIGN NATIONS TO LOOK AFTER US. WE ARE DOING RATHER WELL ON OUR OWN.