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[boulio]

7th August 1992 at 4.23pm while eating shouflagi (not sure thats how you spell it) is that specific enough???

its souvlaki, and i dont think you every truly were for a true solution viewpoint only this bs plan from annan and your upset know that you now its not going to go threw,by the way 7th of august at 4:23 DOB?

[MicAtCyp]

It is well known that some TC members of this forum have substantial property in the free areas, whereas they got nothing in the occupied areas. With Partition they will lose it all.
The same will happen with the GC refugees. They will give them some peanuts. But in the end they will tell them the TC properties were not enough to get equal to what they lost.
In the meantime both the GC and TC land mafia, their lawyers, and their backers will make millions....

Partition will cement unjustice

[brother]

We have strayed off topic, what we need to know is how a partition would work, i have thrown some ideas and so has turkcyp now we need to hear wether these ideas would work or not or even better ideas would help so much, remember this is a discussion/debate so you can talk about it.

[Viewpoint]

boulio

its souvlaki, and i dont think you every truly were for a true solution viewpoint only this bs plan from annan and your upset know that you now its not going to go threw,by the way 7th of august at 4:23 DOB?

Thanks for the spelling correction, you are totally wrong about me supporting a true solution everyones interpretation is different thats why we always disagree but I respect your views.
The Annan plan will be back on the table soon so we will have the chance to vote NO, then you can then we can again and so on.

Not my DOB

[MicAtCyp]

Brother heres a more direct reply. You ask "Can we accept it?"
I tell you for sure the GCs will not accept it. Here is one additional to the many I put forward. Because your part will get recognised immediately whereas our side will wait for ages to get land back.And in the end we will get nothing! Turkey is a master in making agreements and then violate them.
You may ask how will she be able to violate the agreement? Easy.She can create tension at the borders to postpone everything indefinetely.

By the way do you think it would be very difficult for Turkey or your side to achive partition on an 18-82% basis so far? Of course not! All they had to do is return 19% land! And then claim they hold exactly what they left behind, nothing more nothing less. Recognition would then come by itself and partition comple.

PS. Actually your side always wanted partition. The declaration of Kksomething was the first effort to establish partition on an 38-62% basis.It failed. Then you moved to the 29-71% disguised partition.That failed too.Whats next?

[insan]

Turkey is a master in making agreements and then violate them.

Exactly how the masters of Akritas violated the 60s agreements.

[Agios Amvrosios]

Brother said:

What would make it acceptable to the GC community?

I think the idea of partition is unnacceptable no matter what to a Greek Cypriot. That is the reason Annan 5 was was unsuccessful at the referendum. A-5 and friends proposed a solution which institutionalised partition although not in the form of two sovereign countries but through two separate component states.

Any new solution would be less like partition under than the Annan Plan- rather than more like partition in the form of two seaparate states.

[Viewpoint]

MicAtCyp

PS. Actually your side always wanted partition. The declaration of Kksomething was the first effort to establish partition on an 38-62% basis.It failed. Then you moved to the 29-71% disguised partition.That failed too.Whats next?

Why do you feel we always want partition??? and what are you doing to change this attitude of TCs??? If this Forum is a cross section of your community, it only confirms my reservations.

Agios Amvrosios

Any new solution would be less like partition under than the Annan Plan- rather than more like partition in the form of two seaparate states.

Dont count your chickens before they hatch, Annan 3 for you guys was better than 5, who knows what 6 will be like! next year you may want to go back to 5.

[brother]

O.K People to majority of us partition is unacceptable, all i ask is if this was the only thing left what would we find as an acceptable solution to this, would we want 18-82 cut or 15-75 with a 10% mix in the centre etc.

[MicAtCyp]

Exactly how the masters of Akritas violated the 60s agreements.

Ha,ha,ha. What an obsession you have re Insan!
First of all our discussion is for a free will agreement for partition between the two parties concerned.(like for example the 3rd Vienna agreement -sic)
We are not talking for an agreement imposed by third parties, that will favour terribly one side on the expense of the other, and certainly we are not talking for an agreement under blackmail.
Have you seen an agreement signed under blackmail ever honoured?

Despite of that the 1960 agreements are valid until today and it is your side that does not want them. Be my guest. Come back to the RoC and demand your full rights.So that we can also demand our own.

Why do you feel we always want partition???

Oh come on Viewpoint... you are the Prince of partition in this forum and you are asking me why? Ask yourself. In fact I never saw a post of yours talking on anything else other than partition and partition and damn partition again.