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PARTITION-CAN WE ACCEPT IT

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:14 pm

Surely turkcyp you can sense the change in TCs towards a solution, they took the referendum hard and many have changed there stance. You can talk solution until you are blue in the face but the likelihood of actually agreeing anything that both communities would commit to is very remote, dont you agree? I applaud your optimisim but dont hold out very much hope in seeing a solution in my life time.
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Postby turkcyp » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:17 pm

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Postby Saint Jimmy » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:19 pm

Yes, mikkie, in case of agreed partition, what stops the TRNC from going down the road we did and building a healthy economy based on tourism? :roll:
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Postby -mikkie2- » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:29 pm

But tourism is not the be-all and end-all. Its not a path to riches in the long run. The Cypriot economy is far less reliant on tourism now than it was say 10 or 20 years ago. Financial services and telecommunications are two major elements of the Cypriot economy.

The problems the north will have are two-fold. Firstly, there is no control or central planning for development. There are drastic water and energy shortages. Who is going to develop these? It will be Turkey. Who is going to control the influx of Turks from Turkey? It will be a catastrophe waiting to happen. Secondly, forget that there will be peace in Cyprus. It will still be highly militarised. We will never be at peace!
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:33 pm

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What I mean is that you've come to your conclusions, based on whatever it is you've heard or seen, and they might as well be damn right. But you forgot to think about the possibility that maybe you haven't seen the whole picture or heard the whole tune.
Maybe you haven't seen and heard everything.


Is is possible to see and hear everything??? I have come to this conclusion reluctantly I was a staunch supporter of unification last year but I have come to terms with the current picture as being one of stale mate. I like everyone else read and see developments through the media (TC & GC) and talk to GC friends can you honestly say we are moving forward and will get to a solution??? can u see any light at the end of the tunnel I cant and im honest about it. It takes different people longer to admit we are unable to agree a solution so in time you to will come to accept that nothing will come of the next attempt at negotiations. Do you feel that any changes however minor will be accepted by the majority of TCs who do not trust GC intentions. I contributed towards the Annan plan so I know Greek Cypriot views very well, they were at the negotiations as well in full force believe me and we agreed everything together, we all know the result.
So whats the use of flogging a dead horse, its unlikely to run and win the grand national. Maybe its time to admit that the horse (reunification) is dead and bury it, and move onto to find 2 new horses one for you (RoC) and one for me (TRNC) maybe then we will have a chance of winning a race (solution).
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Postby boulio » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:47 pm

how long have you been a staunch supporter of unification viewpoint?,because that plan wasent to unify but to partition.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:50 pm

Pre 24th April 2004
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Postby boulio » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:54 pm

time wise what are we talking 1 month ,one year,five years pre april 24th
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:05 pm

7th August 1992 at 4.23pm while eating shouflagi (not sure thats how you spell it) is that specific enough???
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Postby Piratis » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:06 pm

I agree with turkcyp, although obviously we see the "optimal solution" from a different point of view.

For me unification means having as the end result (after a needed transitional period) a truly united country were all citizens are equal Cypriot citizens without any racial discriminations. (with full protection of community rights of course).

If this can not be achieved then I really don't see why a dysfunctional disguised partition would be better or more economically viable than an 82%-18% standard partition.
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