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[GorillaGal]

Dear friend Lena,
It is true that i am mad with Phoenix because she is (he is ) too RASCİST actor on this forum.

sees everything from one side of the coin.
I didn't threat her or him personally this is not my character.
Personally i am against threating people. İ always willing to get in touch with people and talk face to face , try to understand and help each other in the right ways.

İ said to her STAY WHERE U ARE.We are living in this island we will find the solutions not people like u.Try have to respect every nations.Turks ,Greeks ,English ,USA etc......etc...... we are all humans.
The way she (he) behaves doesn't help at all for us to come closer.

She (he) is on this forum only to mix everything like HEN.

Halil
You don't know the meaning of the word RACIST so SHUT UP accusing me you ignorant nasty fool!

You have been the only one on the forum who has DIRECTLY THREATENED ME HALIL.

. . . And I would like it known that YOU HAVE PERSONAL DETAILS OF MINE WHICH I REALISE PUT ME IN REAL DANGER.
If you continue to accuse me of being racist when I have never claimed the inferiority of one RACE against another RACE then you had better have SOME evidence to back you up because you and your persecuting madness are beginning to annoy me and SERIOUSLY PUT ME IN MIND THAT YOU ARE SETTING ME UP FOR TARGETING BY YOUR TURKISH TERRORIST GROUPS.
Show me the evidence where I have claimed one RACE is superior to another RACE by virtue of their genetics . .

otherwise: SHUT UP HALIL

HALIL . . . you have my personal details. I am seriously worried by your behaviour. I truly believe you are slightly insane because of your posts to me.
Please find some way to show me that you are not a lunatic otherwise I will have to consult with higher authorities.

in response to halil's "accusations," you have, phoenix, made it quiet well known, how much you hate turks. if that is not racism, i don't know what is.
"in my humble opinion."

oh, and if halil "threatened" you in any way, welcome to the club. i can think of a certain person on this forum who recently threatened me. it's all bound to happen when you have strong opinions.

Hatred of Turks has nothing to do with racism. They are my enemy because they tried to kill me.
They are also the enemy of my country because they are illegally occupying it and keeping my people from their homes.

Hating your enemy is a natural Human coping reaction and does not make you any more a racist than any other Human.

EVERY TURK THAT EVER LIVED TRIED TO KILL YOU? they were all at your door with guns and knives and nooses and whatever?
i understand why you might hate them, but to generalize hatred onto an entire race IS racism. there are alot of nice and wonderful turks out there.

This is where you and I differ.
Turks are a not RACE.

As I have said on many occasions I see only the HUMAN RACE. There are families of relatedness within the HUMAN RACE. No more no less.

It is at this point that people show through their ignorance, that they in fact are more racist than I, who knows we are nothing more than a bag of chemicals, controlled to varying degrees of normality (statistical "N") by our DNA . . . which is more similar between GROUPS / FAMILIES of people, than it is between any two individuals.

Now go figure who is racist GG.

oh, i know who is racist.

[halil]

Dear friend Lena,
It is true that i am mad with Phoenix because she is (he is ) too RASCİST actor on this forum.

sees everything from one side of the coin.
I didn't threat her or him personally this is not my character.
Personally i am against threating people. İ always willing to get in touch with people and talk face to face , try to understand and help each other in the right ways.

İ said to her STAY WHERE U ARE.We are living in this island we will find the solutions not people like u.Try have to respect every nations.Turks ,Greeks ,English ,USA etc......etc...... we are all humans.
The way she (he) behaves doesn't help at all for us to come closer.

She (he) is on this forum only to mix everything like HEN.

Halil
You don't know the meaning of the word RACIST so SHUT UP accusing me you ignorant nasty fool!

You have been the only one on the forum who has DIRECTLY THREATENED ME HALIL.

. . . And I would like it known that YOU HAVE PERSONAL DETAILS OF MINE WHICH I REALISE PUT ME IN REAL DANGER.
If you continue to accuse me of being racist when I have never claimed the inferiority of one RACE against another RACE then you had better have SOME evidence to back you up because you and your persecuting madness are beginning to annoy me and SERIOUSLY PUT ME IN MIND THAT YOU ARE SETTING ME UP FOR TARGETING BY YOUR TURKISH TERRORIST GROUPS.
Show me the evidence where I have claimed one RACE is superior to another RACE by virtue of their genetics . .

otherwise: SHUT UP HALIL

HALIL . . . you have my personal details. I am seriously worried by your behaviour. I truly believe you are slightly insane because of your posts to me.
Please find some way to show me that you are not a lunatic otherwise I will have to consult with higher authorities.

Are u normal ? I don't think so . Hate is blind your eyes.
Why should i have your personal details ? I don't care about u and your life at all.
If u are racist or not pls read your all post that u are posted.
u should SHUT UP .
This Country is my country. I live here , I can say everything about Cyprus but u have no rights.U talk about problems that u are having in Uk.Leave alone TC's and GC's .We are capable enough to solve our problems.We don't need your advises.

I gave you my details in connection with the Cycling the Coastline of Cyprus tour that I was proposing to do.
I do not care if it suits you to deny that now.
It's enough that I have let the relevant people know that.

On ALL my posts to you I have discussed the points you raise, but you then become personal and THEN I am forced to defend myself.

Please do not refer to phoenix in your posts, or post to me again, and I will do the same since I find you particularly difficult to reason with.

I think this may be the best for all.

Did i talk about your details on this forum ? I am not that kind person at all. If u give me permission i can paste your Pm to me that forum members can see your writing and my writing and they can decide if i have your personal details . Pls don't lye
Ask me to DT and Bananiot.
İ have to make this clear till we clear it , i will post refer to phonixe.It is not easy to get away when u throw away the mad and get away.
No one is stopping u cycling at northern Cyprus.If u come and do it , u will shame from yourself that all the allegations u have done against this people. Especially against settlers .U will see with your own eyes how friendly and loving persons their while u will pass front of them.

[GorillaGal]

oh yes Phoenix, do it! cycle through all of Cyprus! you will be proud of your accomplishment, and you will learn some suprising things, i am sure of it! isn't that what life is about? i wish i could join you, but i am too busy with my own list of things to do in this lifetime! go cycling! good luck, and would love to hear about your experiences!

[phoenix]

Dear friend Lena,
It is true that i am mad with Phoenix because she is (he is ) too RASCİST actor on this forum.

sees everything from one side of the coin.
I didn't threat her or him personally this is not my character.
Personally i am against threating people. İ always willing to get in touch with people and talk face to face , try to understand and help each other in the right ways.

İ said to her STAY WHERE U ARE.We are living in this island we will find the solutions not people like u.Try have to respect every nations.Turks ,Greeks ,English ,USA etc......etc...... we are all humans.
The way she (he) behaves doesn't help at all for us to come closer.

She (he) is on this forum only to mix everything like HEN.

Halil
You don't know the meaning of the word RACIST so SHUT UP accusing me you ignorant nasty fool!

You have been the only one on the forum who has DIRECTLY THREATENED ME HALIL.

. . . And I would like it known that YOU HAVE PERSONAL DETAILS OF MINE WHICH I REALISE PUT ME IN REAL DANGER.
If you continue to accuse me of being racist when I have never claimed the inferiority of one RACE against another RACE then you had better have SOME evidence to back you up because you and your persecuting madness are beginning to annoy me and SERIOUSLY PUT ME IN MIND THAT YOU ARE SETTING ME UP FOR TARGETING BY YOUR TURKISH TERRORIST GROUPS.
Show me the evidence where I have claimed one RACE is superior to another RACE by virtue of their genetics . .

otherwise: SHUT UP HALIL

HALIL . . . you have my personal details. I am seriously worried by your behaviour. I truly believe you are slightly insane because of your posts to me.
Please find some way to show me that you are not a lunatic otherwise I will have to consult with higher authorities.

Are u normal ? I don't think so . Hate is blind your eyes.
Why should i have your personal details ? I don't care about u and your life at all.
If u are racist or not pls read your all post that u are posted.
u should SHUT UP .
This Country is my country. I live here , I can say everything about Cyprus but u have no rights.U talk about problems that u are having in Uk.Leave alone TC's and GC's .We are capable enough to solve our problems.We don't need your advises.

I gave you my details in connection with the Cycling the Coastline of Cyprus tour that I was proposing to do.
I do not care if it suits you to deny that now.
It's enough that I have let the relevant people know that.

On ALL my posts to you I have discussed the points you raise, but you then become personal and THEN I am forced to defend myself.

Please do not refer to phoenix in your posts, or post to me again, and I will do the same since I find you particularly difficult to reason with.

I think this may be the best for all.

Did i talk about your details on this forum ? I am not that kind person at all. If u give me permission i can paste your Pm to me that forum members can see your writing and my writing and they can decide if i have your personal details . Pls don't lye
Ask me to DT and Bananiot.
İ have to make this clear till we clear it , i will post refer to phonixe.It is not easy to get away when u throw away the mad and get away.
No one is stopping u cycling at northern Cyprus.If u come and do it , u will shame from yourself that all the allegations u have done against this people. Especially against settlers .U will see with your own eyes how friendly and loving persons their while u will pass front of them.

We exchanged a few PMs and in one of them I supplied my e-mail address so that we can sort out paperwork for the north, the other PM I know was irrelevant details about the tour and cycling . . . and I most certainly do not give you permission to distribute my personal details on the forum.

You gave me your mobile number and some BAYRAK details.
This was so that we meet in January to discuss the Cycling tour.

I still intend to cycle around my country and I am in consultation as to when / how to make this dream come true.

You have done a good job of spoiling it for now halil . . . so get off my back please.

[halil]

Dear friend Lena,
It is true that i am mad with Phoenix because she is (he is ) too RASCİST actor on this forum.

sees everything from one side of the coin.
I didn't threat her or him personally this is not my character.
Personally i am against threating people. İ always willing to get in touch with people and talk face to face , try to understand and help each other in the right ways.

İ said to her STAY WHERE U ARE.We are living in this island we will find the solutions not people like u.Try have to respect every nations.Turks ,Greeks ,English ,USA etc......etc...... we are all humans.
The way she (he) behaves doesn't help at all for us to come closer.

She (he) is on this forum only to mix everything like HEN.

Halil
You don't know the meaning of the word RACIST so SHUT UP accusing me you ignorant nasty fool!

You have been the only one on the forum who has DIRECTLY THREATENED ME HALIL.

. . . And I would like it known that YOU HAVE PERSONAL DETAILS OF MINE WHICH I REALISE PUT ME IN REAL DANGER.
If you continue to accuse me of being racist when I have never claimed the inferiority of one RACE against another RACE then you had better have SOME evidence to back you up because you and your persecuting madness are beginning to annoy me and SERIOUSLY PUT ME IN MIND THAT YOU ARE SETTING ME UP FOR TARGETING BY YOUR TURKISH TERRORIST GROUPS.
Show me the evidence where I have claimed one RACE is superior to another RACE by virtue of their genetics . .

otherwise: SHUT UP HALIL

HALIL . . . you have my personal details. I am seriously worried by your behaviour. I truly believe you are slightly insane because of your posts to me.
Please find some way to show me that you are not a lunatic otherwise I will have to consult with higher authorities.

Are u normal ? I don't think so . Hate is blind your eyes.
Why should i have your personal details ? I don't care about u and your life at all.
If u are racist or not pls read your all post that u are posted.
u should SHUT UP .
This Country is my country. I live here , I can say everything about Cyprus but u have no rights.U talk about problems that u are having in Uk.Leave alone TC's and GC's .We are capable enough to solve our problems.We don't need your advises.

I gave you my details in connection with the Cycling the Coastline of Cyprus tour that I was proposing to do.
I do not care if it suits you to deny that now.
It's enough that I have let the relevant people know that.

On ALL my posts to you I have discussed the points you raise, but you then become personal and THEN I am forced to defend myself.

Please do not refer to phoenix in your posts, or post to me again, and I will do the same since I find you particularly difficult to reason with.

I think this may be the best for all.

Did i talk about your details on this forum ? I am not that kind person at all. If u give me permission i can paste your Pm to me that forum members can see your writing and my writing and they can decide if i have your personal details . Pls don't lye
Ask me to DT and Bananiot.
İ have to make this clear till we clear it , i will post refer to phonixe.It is not easy to get away when u throw away the mad and get away.
No one is stopping u cycling at northern Cyprus.If u come and do it , u will shame from yourself that all the allegations u have done against this people. Especially against settlers .U will see with your own eyes how friendly and loving persons their while u will pass front of them.

We exchanged a few PMs and in one of them I supplied my e-mail address . . . and I most certainly do not give you permission to distribute my details on the forum.

I am not that much idiot , i always have respect to peoples private life.
You gave me your mobile number and some BAYRAK details.
It is true . I gave my mobile numbers to everybody nothing to worry for me.Bayrak details were about cycling programmes that we are broadcasting.It is open for everybody.
This was so that we meet in January to discuss the Cycling tour.
Still it is not problem for me to meet you.We don't eat people.We are all humanbeings.

I still intend to cycle around my country and I am in consultation as to when / how to make this dream come true.
No one is stopping u to do.North Cyprus is free country.Come and see it w ith your own eyes.
You have done a good job of spoiling it for now halil . . . so get off my back please.
I didn't spoil anything .If it did blame your self. Before u judge the peoples try to talk with them face to face than do your own decisions
have a look above your post . quote]

[denizaksulu]

Dear friend Lena,
It is true that i am mad with Phoenix because she is (he is ) too RASCİST actor on this forum.

sees everything from one side of the coin.
I didn't threat her or him personally this is not my character.
Personally i am against threating people. İ always willing to get in touch with people and talk face to face , try to understand and help each other in the right ways.

İ said to her STAY WHERE U ARE.We are living in this island we will find the solutions not people like u.Try have to respect every nations.Turks ,Greeks ,English ,USA etc......etc...... we are all humans.
The way she (he) behaves doesn't help at all for us to come closer.

She (he) is on this forum only to mix everything like HEN.

Halil
You don't know the meaning of the word RACIST so SHUT UP accusing me you ignorant nasty fool!

You have been the only one on the forum who has DIRECTLY THREATENED ME HALIL.

. . . And I would like it known that YOU HAVE PERSONAL DETAILS OF MINE WHICH I REALISE PUT ME IN REAL DANGER.
If you continue to accuse me of being racist when I have never claimed the inferiority of one RACE against another RACE then you had better have SOME evidence to back you up because you and your persecuting madness are beginning to annoy me and SERIOUSLY PUT ME IN MIND THAT YOU ARE SETTING ME UP FOR TARGETING BY YOUR TURKISH TERRORIST GROUPS.
Show me the evidence where I have claimed one RACE is superior to another RACE by virtue of their genetics . .

otherwise: SHUT UP HALIL

HALIL . . . you have my personal details. I am seriously worried by your behaviour. I truly believe you are slightly insane because of your posts to me.
Please find some way to show me that you are not a lunatic otherwise I will have to consult with higher authorities.

in response to halil's "accusations," you have, phoenix, made it quiet well known, how much you hate turks. if that is not racism, i don't know what is.
"in my humble opinion."

oh, and if halil "threatened" you in any way, welcome to the club. i can think of a certain person on this forum who recently threatened me. it's all bound to happen when you have strong opinions.

Hatred of Turks has nothing to do with racism. They are my enemy because they tried to kill me.
They are also the enemy of my country because they are illegally occupying it and keeping my people from their homes.

Hating your enemy is a natural Human coping reaction and does not make you any more a racist than any other Human.

EVERY TURK THAT EVER LIVED TRIED TO KILL YOU? they were all at your door with guns and knives and nooses and whatever?
i understand why you might hate them, but to generalize hatred onto an entire race IS racism. there are alot of nice and wonderful turks out there.

This is where you and I differ.
Turks are a not RACE.

As I have said on many occasions I see only the HUMAN RACE. There are families of relatedness within the HUMAN RACE. No more no less.

It is at this point that people show through their ignorance, that they in fact are more racist than I, who knows we are nothing more than a bag of chemicals, controlled to varying degrees of normality (statistical "N") by our DNA . . . which is more similar between GROUPS / FAMILIES of people, than it is between any two individuals.

Now go figure who is racist GG.

Girls, girls, please do not argue about the definition of 'Race' or 'Racism'. Its all semantics.

Lets call it 'anger' and let it be. Both sides are angry, these definitions are used in various degrees of accuracy or inaccuracies. We know what people are talking about, and what they mean. Let the Lexocographers do the fighting.

In someones famous words "CALM DOWN". BREATH IN AND OUT

[phoenix]

Dear friend Lena,
It is true that i am mad with Phoenix because she is (he is ) too RASCİST actor on this forum.

sees everything from one side of the coin.
I didn't threat her or him personally this is not my character.
Personally i am against threating people. İ always willing to get in touch with people and talk face to face , try to understand and help each other in the right ways.

İ said to her STAY WHERE U ARE.We are living in this island we will find the solutions not people like u.Try have to respect every nations.Turks ,Greeks ,English ,USA etc......etc...... we are all humans.
The way she (he) behaves doesn't help at all for us to come closer.

She (he) is on this forum only to mix everything like HEN.

Halil
You don't know the meaning of the word RACIST so SHUT UP accusing me you ignorant nasty fool!

You have been the only one on the forum who has DIRECTLY THREATENED ME HALIL.

. . . And I would like it known that YOU HAVE PERSONAL DETAILS OF MINE WHICH I REALISE PUT ME IN REAL DANGER.
If you continue to accuse me of being racist when I have never claimed the inferiority of one RACE against another RACE then you had better have SOME evidence to back you up because you and your persecuting madness are beginning to annoy me and SERIOUSLY PUT ME IN MIND THAT YOU ARE SETTING ME UP FOR TARGETING BY YOUR TURKISH TERRORIST GROUPS.
Show me the evidence where I have claimed one RACE is superior to another RACE by virtue of their genetics . .

otherwise: SHUT UP HALIL

HALIL . . . you have my personal details. I am seriously worried by your behaviour. I truly believe you are slightly insane because of your posts to me.
Please find some way to show me that you are not a lunatic otherwise I will have to consult with higher authorities.

Are u normal ? I don't think so . Hate is blind your eyes.
Why should i have your personal details ? I don't care about u and your life at all.
If u are racist or not pls read your all post that u are posted.
u should SHUT UP .
This Country is my country. I live here , I can say everything about Cyprus but u have no rights.U talk about problems that u are having in Uk.Leave alone TC's and GC's .We are capable enough to solve our problems.We don't need your advises.

I gave you my details in connection with the Cycling the Coastline of Cyprus tour that I was proposing to do.
I do not care if it suits you to deny that now.
It's enough that I have let the relevant people know that.

On ALL my posts to you I have discussed the points you raise, but you then become personal and THEN I am forced to defend myself.

Please do not refer to phoenix in your posts, or post to me again, and I will do the same since I find you particularly difficult to reason with.

I think this may be the best for all.

Did i talk about your details on this forum ? I am not that kind person at all. If u give me permission i can paste your Pm to me that forum members can see your writing and my writing and they can decide if i have your personal details . Pls don't lye
Ask me to DT and Bananiot.
İ have to make this clear till we clear it , i will post refer to phonixe.It is not easy to get away when u throw away the mad and get away.
No one is stopping u cycling at northern Cyprus.If u come and do it , u will shame from yourself that all the allegations u have done against this people. Especially against settlers .U will see with your own eyes how friendly and loving persons their while u will pass front of them.

We exchanged a few PMs and in one of them I supplied my e-mail address . . . and I most certainly do not give you permission to distribute my details on the forum.

I am not that much idiot , i always have respect to peoples private life.
You gave me your mobile number and some BAYRAK details.
It is true . I gave my mobile numbers to everybody nothing to worry for me.Bayrak details were about cycling programmes that we are broadcasting.It is open for everybody.
This was so that we meet in January to discuss the Cycling tour.
Still it is not problem for me to meet you.We don't eat people.We are all humanbeings.

I still intend to cycle around my country and I am in consultation as to when / how to make this dream come true.
No one is stopping u to do.North Cyprus is free country.Come and see it w ith your own eyes.
You have done a good job of spoiling it for now halil . . . so get off my back please.
I didn't spoil anything .If it did blame your self. Before u judge the peoples try to talk with them face to face than do your own decisions
have a look above your post . quote]

halil . . . I can only go by your posts to me . . . and I know mine to you only ever argued against comments about Cyprus / Turkey.

Yet you turn my posts around to attack me personally and even post degrading unnecessary pictures to embarrass me.

Then I have to defend myself and that should be unnecessary as it is people's opinions and statements we should be debating (unless it's a "fun" thread).

I appreciate the time we are spending to sort this out . . . because halil, I did send you my e-mail and I have posted a lot about my families movements and locations on the forum . . . and because I have no qualms about saying how much I hate Turkey . . . I put myself out as a target.

When you then turn round and threaten me to stay away from my country and especially the north . . . how do you think that makes me feel?
Happy? . . . carefree?

[GorillaGal]

Dear friend Lena,
It is true that i am mad with Phoenix because she is (he is ) too RASCİST actor on this forum.

sees everything from one side of the coin.
I didn't threat her or him personally this is not my character.
Personally i am against threating people. İ always willing to get in touch with people and talk face to face , try to understand and help each other in the right ways.

İ said to her STAY WHERE U ARE.We are living in this island we will find the solutions not people like u.Try have to respect every nations.Turks ,Greeks ,English ,USA etc......etc...... we are all humans.
The way she (he) behaves doesn't help at all for us to come closer.

She (he) is on this forum only to mix everything like HEN.

Halil
You don't know the meaning of the word RACIST so SHUT UP accusing me you ignorant nasty fool!

You have been the only one on the forum who has DIRECTLY THREATENED ME HALIL.

. . . And I would like it known that YOU HAVE PERSONAL DETAILS OF MINE WHICH I REALISE PUT ME IN REAL DANGER.
If you continue to accuse me of being racist when I have never claimed the inferiority of one RACE against another RACE then you had better have SOME evidence to back you up because you and your persecuting madness are beginning to annoy me and SERIOUSLY PUT ME IN MIND THAT YOU ARE SETTING ME UP FOR TARGETING BY YOUR TURKISH TERRORIST GROUPS.
Show me the evidence where I have claimed one RACE is superior to another RACE by virtue of their genetics . .

otherwise: SHUT UP HALIL

HALIL . . . you have my personal details. I am seriously worried by your behaviour. I truly believe you are slightly insane because of your posts to me.
Please find some way to show me that you are not a lunatic otherwise I will have to consult with higher authorities.

in response to halil's "accusations," you have, phoenix, made it quiet well known, how much you hate turks. if that is not racism, i don't know what is.
"in my humble opinion."

oh, and if halil "threatened" you in any way, welcome to the club. i can think of a certain person on this forum who recently threatened me. it's all bound to happen when you have strong opinions.

Hatred of Turks has nothing to do with racism. They are my enemy because they tried to kill me.
They are also the enemy of my country because they are illegally occupying it and keeping my people from their homes.

Hating your enemy is a natural Human coping reaction and does not make you any more a racist than any other Human.

EVERY TURK THAT EVER LIVED TRIED TO KILL YOU? they were all at your door with guns and knives and nooses and whatever?
i understand why you might hate them, but to generalize hatred onto an entire race IS racism. there are alot of nice and wonderful turks out there.

This is where you and I differ.
Turks are a not RACE.

As I have said on many occasions I see only the HUMAN RACE. There are families of relatedness within the HUMAN RACE. No more no less.

It is at this point that people show through their ignorance, that they in fact are more racist than I, who knows we are nothing more than a bag of chemicals, controlled to varying degrees of normality (statistical "N") by our DNA . . . which is more similar between GROUPS / FAMILIES of people, than it is between any two individuals.

Now go figure who is racist GG.

Girls, girls, please do not argue about the definition of 'Race' or 'Racism'. Its all semantics.

Lets call it 'anger' and let it be. Both sides are angry, these definitions are used in various degrees of accuracy or inaccuracies. We know what people are talking about, and what they mean. Let the Lexocographers do the fighting.

In someones famous words "CALM DOWN". BREATH IN AND OUT

i am not angry.... i was just making a point. i do not expect Phoenix to ever change her opinion of turks, and rightly so, but just call it what it is: racism, and stop living in denial of it.

[phoenix]

i am not angry.... i was just making a point. i do not expect Phoenix to ever change her opinion of turks, and rightly so, but just call it what it is: racism, and stop living in denial of it.

Professor GorillaGal . . . tell me why I should change my opinion about whether Turks constitute a separate genetically distinct race or not?

Have you supplied any evidence?

I have explained to you in layman's terms precisely why I do not consider Turks to be a genetically distinct race, and you continue to believe that they are a genetically distinct race.

As far as I am concerned, you could be labelled a racist for believing this and without evidence.

Now supply some evidence why you believe Turks are a genetically distinct race? . . . otherwise stop wasting time proving you do not understand anything.

[GorillaGal]

i am not angry.... i was just making a point. i do not expect Phoenix to ever change her opinion of turks, and rightly so, but just call it what it is: racism, and stop living in denial of it.

Professor GorillaGal . . . tell me why I should change my opinion about whether Turks constitute a separate genetically distinct race or not?

Have you supplied any evidence?

I have explained to you in layman's terms precisely why I do not consider Turks to be a genetically distinct race, and you continue to believe that they are a genetically distinct race.

As far as I am concerned, you could be labelled a racist for believing this and without evidence.

Now supply some evidence why you believe Turks are a genetically distinct race? . . . otherwise stop wasting time proving you do not understand anything.

my point exactly! denial!

now it's back to walking dogs for me.

and it's ok Phoenix, you can go on and hate all the turks you want. it's your life.