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Re: The Flags of the Pentadaktylos, WHY?

Postby miltiades » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:57 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
'74LondonBoy wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:What is the purpose of the Giant Flags of the Pentadakylos. What will it achieve? If the Northern Government is seriously intent on Peace talks or Re-unification, is this the right approach? Isnt it just provocation?


There is no purpose except to further infuriate people, even if the flags are facing Turkey. I see no point or purpose in this whatsoever except for spending money for the sake of it. I sincerely hope this does not go ahead, and that they also start dismantling the night time light show on the mountainside as well.


This is our side we can do what we want, we are further form a solution than we have ever been so why do we have wait, we can do what we want in our own country.



There are a lot of greek speaking Cypriots who also call the areas in question 'OUR COUNTRY' , legally as well. What can we say to those GCs from those areas?


Deniz , from VP two words only f..off .The audacity of this individual foreigner has no bounds !!
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Postby humanist » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:24 am

Deniz perhaps we start by calling the Cypriot
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Re: The Flags of the Pentadaktylos, WHY?

Postby 74LB » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:34 pm

Get Real! wrote:
'74LondonBoy wrote:There is no purpose except to further infuriate people, even if the flags are facing Turkey.

How do you get flags to face in a specific direction unless they're not naturally directed by the wind... :? Are they using turbines or something? :lol:


What I meant was that the proposed flags (from my understanding) would be on the north side of the Pentadaktylos (Beşparmak Dağları) and hence not viewable say, from Nicosia.
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Re: The Flags of the Pentadaktylos, WHY?

Postby Kikapu » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:46 pm

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Totally agree with you LondonBoy and what is even more important is that these flags are not erected with our (TC's) will,in fact they are being forced on us by somewhere to give us a message.


Iceman,

You being a moderate TC, what exactly are you trying to say. Are these flags up there to keep the moderate TC's in line by the "Pigs in Animal Farm" or what.??

Do you see the voices of the Moderate TC's being silenced by such Nationalistic symbols orchestrated by the Fundamentalist Fascist Partitionist, or what.??

And by the way, are these Turkish Flags or "TRNC" or as usual, one of each.!!
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Re: The Flags of the Pentadaktylos, WHY?

Postby phoenix » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:07 pm

Kikapu wrote:
iceman wrote:
Totally agree with you LondonBoy and what is even more important is that these flags are not erected with our (TC's) will,in fact they are being forced on us by somewhere to give us a message.


Iceman,

You being a moderate TC, what exactly are you trying to say. Are these flags up there to keep the moderate TC's in line by the "Pigs in Animal Farm" or what.??

Do you see the voices of the Moderate TC's being silenced by such Nationalistic symbols orchestrated by the Fundamentalist Fascist Partitionist, or what.??

And by the way, are these Turkish Flags or "TRNC" or as usual, one of each.!!


Seeing as we are being analytical:

What is a "Moderate TC"?

........ And by inference, what would be an "Extreme TC" ?
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Re: The Flags of the Pentadaktylos, WHY?

Postby Kikapu » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:19 pm

phoenix wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
iceman wrote:
Totally agree with you LondonBoy and what is even more important is that these flags are not erected with our (TC's) will,in fact they are being forced on us by somewhere to give us a message.


Iceman,

You being a moderate TC, what exactly are you trying to say. Are these flags up there to keep the moderate TC's in line by the "Pigs in Animal Farm" or what.??

Do you see the voices of the Moderate TC's being silenced by such Nationalistic symbols orchestrated by the Fundamentalist Fascist Partitionist, or what.??

And by the way, are these Turkish Flags or "TRNC" or as usual, one of each.!!


Seeing as we are being analytical:

What is a "Moderate TC"?

........ And by inference, what would be an "Extreme TC" ?


Moderate TC is someone who is not a Radical and is open to accept different points of view as well as criticize his own people or leaders when warranted and is open to "give and take" on any negotiations. Someone being able to make a compromise for lasting peace. I see this in Iceman based on several of his posts in the past.

Extremist TC's = Viewpoint and Zan, and few others.
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Re: The Flags of the Pentadaktylos, WHY?

Postby denizaksulu » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:40 pm

phoenix wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
iceman wrote:
Totally agree with you LondonBoy and what is even more important is that these flags are not erected with our (TC's) will,in fact they are being forced on us by somewhere to give us a message.


Iceman,

You being a moderate TC, what exactly are you trying to say. Are these flags up there to keep the moderate TC's in line by the "Pigs in Animal Farm" or what.??

Do you see the voices of the Moderate TC's being silenced by such Nationalistic symbols orchestrated by the Fundamentalist Fascist Partitionist, or what.??

And by the way, are these Turkish Flags or "TRNC" or as usual, one of each.!!


Seeing as we are being analytical:

What is a "Moderate TC"?

........ And by inference, what would be an "Extreme TC" ?



I Love your new signature Phoenix. Does this mean we have a thousand Phoenixes declaring war on Turkey? May Allah help them. Hell hath no fury ........... :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Flags of the Pentadaktylos, WHY?

Postby phoenix » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:57 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
iceman wrote:
Totally agree with you LondonBoy and what is even more important is that these flags are not erected with our (TC's) will,in fact they are being forced on us by somewhere to give us a message.


Iceman,

You being a moderate TC, what exactly are you trying to say. Are these flags up there to keep the moderate TC's in line by the "Pigs in Animal Farm" or what.??

Do you see the voices of the Moderate TC's being silenced by such Nationalistic symbols orchestrated by the Fundamentalist Fascist Partitionist, or what.??

And by the way, are these Turkish Flags or "TRNC" or as usual, one of each.!!


Seeing as we are being analytical:

What is a "Moderate TC"?

........ And by inference, what would be an "Extreme TC" ?



I Love your new signature Phoenix. Does this mean we have a thousand Phoenixes declaring war on Turkey? May Allah help them. Hell hath no fury ........... :lol: :lol:


Hello my little Turkish-Zorba, OPA! :D
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Re: The Flags of the Pentadaktylos, WHY?

Postby denizaksulu » Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:20 pm

phoenix wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
iceman wrote:
Totally agree with you LondonBoy and what is even more important is that these flags are not erected with our (TC's) will,in fact they are being forced on us by somewhere to give us a message.


Iceman,

You being a moderate TC, what exactly are you trying to say. Are these flags up there to keep the moderate TC's in line by the "Pigs in Animal Farm" or what.??

Do you see the voices of the Moderate TC's being silenced by such Nationalistic symbols orchestrated by the Fundamentalist Fascist Partitionist, or what.??

And by the way, are these Turkish Flags or "TRNC" or as usual, one of each.!!


Seeing as we are being analytical:

What is a "Moderate TC"?

........ And by inference, what would be an "Extreme TC" ?



I Love your new signature Phoenix. Does this mean we have a thousand Phoenixes declaring war on Turkey? May Allah help them. Hell hath no fury ........... :lol: :lol:


Hello my little Turkish-Zorba, OPA! :D



Oh, Hello my enlightened one. Funny you should mention the word Zorba.
With Zorba the Greek and a few friends of mine named Zorba ( TC ). I have checked my ancient Ottoman dictionary which contains many words of Greek derivation (also Arabic, Persian, Armenian and a number of old European words). The word Zorba exists, but am not sure of its Etiology. Do you or any other enlightened forumers have any idea where from it doth hail? In Turkish it means a bully and/or Tyrant. Any clues?
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Postby phoenix » Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:21 pm

utu wrote:
phoenix wrote:
humanist wrote:fuckwit
Viewpoint, I don't mean to rain on your parade, but you may have an uphill battle convincing people of that.


and what are the people of that you stupid fuckwit. someone who saw the bombs falling at age 6 only 6 km, away, the people of that whose mother was caufght in the fire whilst taking a two year old to the doctor,. You stupid fucknut arshole Canadian people of that whose uncle was killed by the Turks, whose 60 year oild grandmother and 16 year old aunt were almost killed by the turks as they invaded Cyprus.

People of that whose father was missing in action fr two weeks and at the age of 6 his mother had to walk over 100 km to find her husband and their father.

Stupid fucking cunt Canadian.


Clearly utu does not have a clue what he is talking about, Humanist.

I hope he takes note of this suffering that the Cypriots (and you in particular, dear :( ) faced in '74, and re-thinks his "unbiased" opinions.



You two are certainly missing the point of what I was referring to. When I referred to 'an uphill battle convincing people', I was referring to the current climate of mistrust and the belief that either side would not give a damn about the other. It was that climate of mistrust that was the catalyst for the Cyprus problem in the first place.

So... to put it simply (in deference to you two), as long as each side does not believe in the goodwill of the other side, nothing that anyone can say will matter. You get it now?


utu this view is simplistic as a cause . . . more a symptom.

The catalyst for the Cyprus problem, IMHO, was the 1960 Constitution dished out to the RoC by the British as their last punishment to us for wanting freedom.

Having got our "freedom" any efforts to democratise the setup were destroyed by the will of the TCs + Turkey in unison. All this culminated in the Greek response in 1974, and the Turkish counter-response which left Cyprus split.

Did the British foresee this eventuality?
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