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[denizaksulu]

My motherland is Cyprus which is yours ?

Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Your "motherland" is a dead donkey...

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

Having read this link you published here for the umpteenth time, what is your sincere opinion of the UN, and its resolutions it can not implement? Does it not bother you that such an ineffectual organisation exists and has no teeth whatsoever?
What in effect the UN is saying, carry on 'the north. we dont really mind what you do'.

[denizaksulu]

What is the purpose of the Giant Flags of the Pentadakylos. What will it achieve? If the Northern Government is seriously intent on Peace talks or Re-unification, is this the right approach? Isnt it just provocation?

There is no purpose except to further infuriate people, even if the flags are facing Turkey. I see no point or purpose in this whatsoever except for spending money for the sake of it. I sincerely hope this does not go ahead, and that they also start dismantling the night time light show on the mountainside as well.

This is our side we can do what we want, we are further form a solution than we have ever been so why do we have wait, we can do what we want in our own country.

There are a lot of greek speaking Cypriots who also call the areas in question 'OUR COUNTRY' , legally as well. What can we say to those GCs from those areas?

What do you say to the aborginies or the native Americans? TCs are not that hard we are still open to a partnership solution as long as we know exactly what we will be facing and have safeguards to ensure we administer the north and Gcs administer the south and we are never again pushed to one side, allowing everyone allowed to travel and settle where ever they wish.

VP, with respect to your opinions, settlement or no settlement, it is still their home. Just like when I go south of the line to my village, I know that is my home. The administration of the south will never tell me to go away or 'you cant have your home or land back'.

[Get Real!]

My motherland is Cyprus which is yours ?

Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Your "motherland" is a dead donkey...

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

Having read this link you published here for the umpteenth time, what is your sincere opinion of the UN, and its resolutions it can not implement? Does it not bother you that such an ineffectual organisation exists and has no teeth whatsoever?
What in effect the UN is saying, carry on 'the north. we dont really mind what you do'.

I simply acknowledge that when it comes to international law the UN is the best we’ve got even though it is often let down by member countries themselves, and especially the permanent members of the UN security council (China, France, Russia, UK, and the US).

You may recall in 1991 when the UN unanimously voted against Iraq to convince the Iraqi government to withdraw from Kuwait by imposing various embargoes and ultimately even approving a joint Iraqi invasion to enforce those UN resolutions, etc.

At the time some people touted the whole response as a “new world order” but as it turned out when events unfolded, including the more recent illegal US/UK invasion, it was proven to be nothing but an underlying pursuit of self interests by the respective countries.

Under such circumstances it’s very difficult if not impossible for the “less significant” tiny nations and states to find any justice and that’s why I always believed that the northern part of Cyprus will be reclaimed by the legitimate owner through the same way that it was taken, sooner or later.

All that the Turkish Cypriot community is accomplishing by playing this game with Turkey is to POSTPONE justice today in favor of bloodshed tomorrow. I can also see why, if and when such a time comes, the RoC will understandably want to ELIMINATE its long and agonizing problem once and for all in ways that will make the Akritas Plan seem like a children's story.

Unfortunately, our children and/or grandchildren WILL inherit the injustice of today at a future date and for a yet to be determined price.

[Viewpoint]

What is the purpose of the Giant Flags of the Pentadakylos. What will it achieve? If the Northern Government is seriously intent on Peace talks or Re-unification, is this the right approach? Isnt it just provocation?

There is no purpose except to further infuriate people, even if the flags are facing Turkey. I see no point or purpose in this whatsoever except for spending money for the sake of it. I sincerely hope this does not go ahead, and that they also start dismantling the night time light show on the mountainside as well.

This is our side we can do what we want, we are further form a solution than we have ever been so why do we have wait, we can do what we want in our own country.

There are a lot of greek speaking Cypriots who also call the areas in question 'OUR COUNTRY' , legally as well. What can we say to those GCs from those areas?

What do you say to the aborginies or the native Americans? TCs are not that hard we are still open to a partnership solution as long as we know exactly what we will be facing and have safeguards to ensure we administer the north and Gcs administer the south and we are never again pushed to one side, allowing everyone allowed to travel and settle where ever they wish.

VP, with respect to your opinions, settlement or no settlement, it is still their home. Just like when I go south of the line to my village, I know that is my home. The administration of the south will never tell me to go away or 'you cant have your home or land back'.

Have you asked for it back?

[Viewpoint]

My motherland is Cyprus which is yours ?

Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Your "motherland" is a dead donkey...

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

Having read this link you published here for the umpteenth time, what is your sincere opinion of the UN, and its resolutions it can not implement? Does it not bother you that such an ineffectual organisation exists and has no teeth whatsoever?
What in effect the UN is saying, carry on 'the north. we dont really mind what you do'.

I simply acknowledge that when it comes to international law the UN is the best we’ve got even though it is often let down by member countries themselves, and especially the permanent members of the UN security council (China, France, Russia, UK, and the US).

You may recall in 1991 when the UN unanimously voted against Iraq to convince the Iraqi government to withdraw from Kuwait by imposing various embargoes and ultimately even approving a joint Iraqi invasion to enforce those UN resolutions, etc.

At the time some people touted the whole response as a “new world order” but as it turned out when events unfolded, including the more recent illegal US/UK invasion, it was proven to be nothing but an underlying pursuit of self interests by the respective countries.

Under such circumstances it’s very difficult if not impossible for the “less significant” tiny nations and states to find any justice and that’s why I always believed that the northern part of Cyprus will be reclaimed by the legitimate owner through the same way that it was taken, sooner or later.

All that the Turkish Cypriot community is accomplishing by playing this game with Turkey is to POSTPONE justice today in favor of bloodshed tomorrow. I can also see why, if and when such a time comes, the RoC will understandably want to ELIMINATE its long and agonizing problem once and for all in ways that will make the Akritas Plan seem like a children's story.

Unfortunately, our children and/or grandchildren WILL inherit the injustice of today at a future date and for a yet to be determined price.

We will be left with no alternative but to defend ourselves in the best way possible just like 1974 but from a stronger position. Some people never learn and you appear to be one of them.

[EPSILON]

My motherland is Cyprus which is yours ?

Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Your "motherland" is a dead donkey...

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

Having read this link you published here for the umpteenth time, what is your sincere opinion of the UN, and its resolutions it can not implement? Does it not bother you that such an ineffectual organisation exists and has no teeth whatsoever?
What in effect the UN is saying, carry on 'the north. we dont really mind what you do'.

I simply acknowledge that when it comes to international law the UN is the best we’ve got even though it is often let down by member countries themselves, and especially the permanent members of the UN security council (China, France, Russia, UK, and the US).

You may recall in 1991 when the UN unanimously voted against Iraq to convince the Iraqi government to withdraw from Kuwait by imposing various embargoes and ultimately even approving a joint Iraqi invasion to enforce those UN resolutions, etc.

At the time some people touted the whole response as a “new world order” but as it turned out when events unfolded, including the more recent illegal US/UK invasion, it was proven to be nothing but an underlying pursuit of self interests by the respective countries.

Under such circumstances it’s very difficult if not impossible for the “less significant” tiny nations and states to find any justice and that’s why I always believed that the northern part of Cyprus will be reclaimed by the legitimate owner through the same way that it was taken, sooner or later.

All that the Turkish Cypriot community is accomplishing by playing this game with Turkey is to POSTPONE justice today in favor of bloodshed tomorrow. I can also see why, if and when such a time comes, the RoC will understandably want to ELIMINATE its long and agonizing problem once and for all in ways that will make the Akritas Plan seem like a children's story.

Unfortunately, our children and/or grandchildren WILL inherit the injustice of today at a future date and for a yet to be determined price.

Psichologically your statement can be justified since you are part of us-the victims.

But in reality, the Mediterranean sea must be a great field with olive trees when such a scenario can be true.

[denizaksulu]

My motherland is Cyprus which is yours ?

Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Your "motherland" is a dead donkey...

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

Having read this link you published here for the umpteenth time, what is your sincere opinion of the UN, and its resolutions it can not implement? Does it not bother you that such an ineffectual organisation exists and has no teeth whatsoever?
What in effect the UN is saying, carry on 'the north. we dont really mind what you do'.

I simply acknowledge that when it comes to international law the UN is the best we’ve got even though it is often let down by member countries themselves, and especially the permanent members of the UN security council (China, France, Russia, UK, and the US).

You may recall in 1991 when the UN unanimously voted against Iraq to convince the Iraqi government to withdraw from Kuwait by imposing various embargoes and ultimately even approving a joint Iraqi invasion to enforce those UN resolutions, etc.

At the time some people touted the whole response as a “new world order” but as it turned out when events unfolded, including the more recent illegal US/UK invasion, it was proven to be nothing but an underlying pursuit of self interests by the respective countries.

Under such circumstances it’s very difficult if not impossible for the “less significant” tiny nations and states to find any justice and that’s why I always believed that the northern part of Cyprus will be reclaimed by the legitimate owner through the same way that it was taken, sooner or later.

All that the Turkish Cypriot community is accomplishing by playing this game with Turkey is to POSTPONE justice today in favor of bloodshed tomorrow. I can also see why, if and when such a time comes, the RoC will understandably want to ELIMINATE its long and agonizing problem once and for all in ways that will make the Akritas Plan seem like a children's story.

Unfortunately, our children and/or grandchildren WILL inherit the injustice of today at a future date and for a yet to be determined price.

I will suggest that Cyprus is the tiny leaf infront of the whirlwind that is Turkey.

[Get Real!]

I will suggest that Cyprus is the tiny leaf infront of the whirlwind that is Turkey.

Your statement appears correct as at Nov/Dec 2007.

[denizaksulu]

I will suggest that Cyprus is the tiny leaf infront of the whirlwind that is Turkey.

Your statement appears correct as at Nov/Dec 2007.

[utu]

utu this view is simplistic as a cause . . . more a symptom.

The catalyst for the Cyprus problem, IMHO, was the 1960 Constitution dished out to the RoC by the British as their last punishment to us for wanting freedom.

Having got our "freedom" any efforts to democratise the setup were destroyed by the will of the TCs + Turkey in unison. All this culminated in the Greek response in 1974, and the Turkish counter-response which left Cyprus split.

Did the British foresee this eventuality?

I agree that the imposed constitution of 1960 was a flawed document. No argument there. There needs to be a better thought-out one. So, IMHO, if there is reconciliation, one of the first things that will need to be done is a constitutional convention. (The second thing being to wash humanist's mouth out with soap for his language...)