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[irresistible]

He could have been a great leader then, but his ideals firstly, today are outdated and secondly, today they have been twisted to the max...and thats the problem

as a matter of fact, nothing has been twisted. indeed, they have just been softened. because his followers eventually realized that his despotic ideologies can't be applied in the contemporary time any more..

[irresistible]

Irresistable;

I admit it. My attempts to engage with you in a semi serious tone are futile. You are just going to have to remain with your reality and accept I and most people on this forum (apart from Cliff) don't care.

if you didn't care (weren't disturbed by the truth) you wouldn't try to catch up answers to others, would you!!

of course not..

http://m-kemal.blogspot.com

[mehmet]

Nope.....

I'm not in the least disturbed by the truth,






....... at least not as much as you are.

[shahmaran]

He could have been a great leader then, but his ideals firstly, today are outdated and secondly, today they have been twisted to the max...and thats the problem

as a matter of fact, nothing has been twisted. indeed, they have just been softened. because his followers eventually realized that his despotic ideologies can't be applied in the contemporary time any more..

What a load of crap...

[bilako22]

Say what you like about K.A . He was a great leader who saved the Turks from certain annihilation at the hands of Christian Europeans. Amongst his great achievements he also , as a human being , had many flaws.

[BC Numismatics]

Yes you said turks...but not everyone is a turk in turkey...what about all the kurds, greeks, assyrians, armenians that got the end of the stick?

The way you potrayed him is like he only looked out for the chosen few...


PS...and here is me thinking that kemal was the father of the republic...

Boomerang,Kemal Ataturk was the 'Father of the Republic' - the banana Republic of Turkey that is!

A lot of people forget that the Cypriot flag & the Cypriot Coat-of-Arms were actually designed by a Turkish Cypriot.

As to Cyprus' name in English,it isn't called the Cyprus Republic.

Both Kypriaki Dimokratia & Kibris Cumhuriyeti translates to the same thing - the Cypriot Republic,or the Republic of Cyprus.

Cyprus will one day reunite & become a Federal Republic of Cyprus.

Aidan.

[cypriotenglish]

Ataturk's father and mother was devout muslim! in fact he's mother Zubeyde hanim was a haci (a muslim whom went to pilgrimage to Mecca). saying he was a secret jew is like saying Makarios was a Bhuddist! lol.

Ataturk has been covered in mud since he's death in slander, the reason is because he was an inspirational and great leader. not my words people if you go research various world leaders quotes it is all uniform, even J. F Kennedy said great things regarding him!

Realistically think people, if he was a secret Jew, why help the Turks? Jews (majority) never liked Turks, because they wanted their own nation from ottoman sultans way before Ataturk and was denied. when you have Turks on knee's crumbling empire why would any Jew help?
It is absurd, also Turkish conspiracy theories claim the doctor brought from abroad to treat him was a secret Jew and killed him! you see all this nonesense and for what?

Also if he was a Jew, what difference would that make? didn't he help the Turk's? by any Turks definition he would still be a national hero! The alleged genocide is also being put on the shoulders on Ataturk, but the world knows that it was Enver Pasha and sultan Abdulmecit whom did it if at all, and by the way this sultan was backed by Britain pls research!

"...Greece, which has the highest estimation of the renowned leader, heroic soldier, and enlightened creator of Turkey. We will never forget that President Atatürk was the true founder of the Turkish-Greek alliance based on a framework of common ideals and peaceful cooperation. He developed ties of friendship between the two nations which it would be unthinkable to dissolve. Greece will guard its fervent memories of this great man, who determined an unalterable future path for the noble Turkish nation." said by Ioannis Metaxas

So there you all go, this man a secret Jew or not, A hero none the less - being made escape goat for lots of things these days, why? because politics is dirty - people always see what they want to, not the entire truth!

Peace

[RichardB]

Ataturk's father and mother was devout muslim! in fact he's mother Zubeyde hanim was a haci (a muslim whom went to pilgrimage to Mecca). saying he was a secret jew is like saying Makarios was a Bhuddist! lol.

Ataturk has been covered in mud since he's death in slander, the reason is because he was an inspirational and great leader. not my words people if you go research various world leaders quotes it is all uniform, even J. F Kennedy said great things regarding him!

Realistically think people, if he was a secret Jew, why help the Turks? Jews (majority) never liked Turks, because they wanted their own nation from ottoman sultans way before Ataturk and was denied. when you have Turks on knee's crumbling empire why would any Jew help?
It is absurd, also Turkish conspiracy theories claim the doctor brought from abroad to treat him was a secret Jew and killed him! you see all this nonesense and for what?

Also if he was a Jew, what difference would that make? didn't he help the Turk's? by any Turks definition he would still be a national hero! The alleged genocide is also being put on the shoulders on Ataturk, but the world knows that it was Enver Pasha and sultan Abdulmecit whom did it if at all, and by the way this sultan was backed by Britain pls research!

"...Greece, which has the highest estimation of the renowned leader, heroic soldier, and enlightened creator of Turkey. We will never forget that President Atatürk was the true founder of the Turkish-Greek alliance based on a framework of common ideals and peaceful cooperation. He developed ties of friendship between the two nations which it would be unthinkable to dissolve. Greece will guard its fervent memories of this great man, who determined an unalterable future path for the noble Turkish nation." said by Ioannis Metaxas

So there you all go, this man a secret Jew or not, A hero none the less - being made escape goat for lots of things these days, why? because politics is dirty - people always see what they want to, not the entire truth!

Peace

good evening and welcome to the madhouse

[Metin]

You got this of a Website called Radio Islam.....Which is basically a Fundamentalist Website its hardly a reliable source what else did it say that the twin towers were a inside job and that the Caliphate should be brought back..?
The only people who despise Ataturk are the people who he defeated namely The Greeks,The Religous Fundamentalists,The Armenians etc...And all the other backsliders of the region who make it their job to rewrite History falsifying it beyond all recognition,and to distrubite each others propaganda.

I don't know why people waste their time with this kinda thing!

[Oracle]

I don't care whether he was a Jew or GAY or both .... but only that he was a tyrannical, totalitarian killer who has influenced millions, to behave like barbarians, because they were made to believe they are superior to their neighbours in worshipping this miscreant who left a bloody legacy for fools to debate whether to wear headscarves or not, instead of address the wrongs of ethnically cleansing and colonising other countries.