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[halil]

November 15. For the people north of the Green Line, it is a day of celebration. For the people south of the Green line, it is certainly NOT a day to celebrate. Twenty-Four years have passed since the Unilateral Declaration of Independence that proclaimed the establishment of the TRNC. For a pariah state, that is actually quite a long time. Rhodesia didn't last nearly as long. Makes one think...

Yesterday it was also MARTYRS OF GECITKALE WERE REMEMBERED .

40 years past .............. ???

[utu]

We have established that TCs and GCs do not trust each other, but that does not mean that the GCs are incapable of putting the mistrust to one side, continuing to carry out changes within ALL the legal frameworks as they have always done and reunify the island without a single TC suffering . . . (but only once usurper Turkey is off the scene).

I received messages from various persons (I won't mention names) that my opposition to Turkish settlers in Cyprus should be tempered by what was called 'an reactive agressive immigration policy' in the South of encouraging Greeks to move to Cyprus and become citizens, and awarding Greek servicemen who serve in Cyprus automatic Cypriot citizenship. Is this true?

[DT.]

We have established that TCs and GCs do not trust each other, but that does not mean that the GCs are incapable of putting the mistrust to one side, continuing to carry out changes within ALL the legal frameworks as they have always done and reunify the island without a single TC suffering . . . (but only once usurper Turkey is off the scene).

I received messages from various persons (I won't mention names) that my opposition to Turkish settlers in Cyprus should be tempered by what was called 'an reactive agressive immigration policy' in the South of encouraging Greeks to move to Cyprus and become citizens, and awarding Greek servicemen who serve in Cyprus automatic Cypriot citizenship. Is this true?

no, and next time don't be a messenger boy for people with no balls to post themselves.

[utu]

D.T.,

I requested clarification. Answers like that are unhelpful.

[DT.]

D.T.,

I requested clarification. Answers like that are unhelpful.

posts like that are unhelpful as well. If someone messages you to post something for them, I doubt you should follow their instructions. If this is something you wanted to post then i'll happily answer.

WHY WOULD WE HAVE SUCH A POLICY OF MAKING GREEK CITIZENS CYPRIOTS WHEN ANY EU CITIZEN CAN COME AND LIVE IN CYPRUS ANYWAY???????

and yet, check the latest demographic reports. The only thing we're running long on is English pensioners and some Pontians of which no one wants around. If Greek Cypriots would only stoop so low to do some blue collar work they wouldn;t be here either.

Hardly a response to 30 odd years of a Turkish govt policy to change the demographic makeup of an entire region which was predominantly Greek Cypriot prior to 74. There was another post a while back regarding some TC's feelings with regards to the settlers in the north and how foreign they seem to them.

This settler program cannot be compared with any 21st century policy any other state in the world would follow. The medieval methods Turkey has used in this case are beyond shame.

[utu]

D.T.,

The policy of Turkish immigration in the north is detrimental to finding a solution. I have no dispute with that. It can be compared with the Israeli settlers in the occupied territory of the West Bank. In any case, I was presented with a counter-argument and I wanted to get a clearer picture, which is why I put the question to the forum. However, you read something else into my posting and basically jumped down my throat. Honi soi que mal y pense.

[DT.]

D.T.,

The policy of Turkish immigration in the north is detrimental to finding a solution. I have no dispute with that. It can be compared with the Israeli settlers in the occupied territory of the West Bank. In any case, I was presented with a counter-argument and I wanted to get a clearer picture, which is why I put the question to the forum. However, you read something else into my posting and basically jumped down my throat. Honi soi que mal y pense.

A pou shi mougian mougiazete

[Bananiot]

DT, are you trying to alienate everybody? Utu deserves better and asking something that others may be thinking of is not a cardinal sin. Why do you not just give the obvious answer?

I was just listening to the news on Euronews just now and realised that Kosovo is about to be granted independence, despite the objections of Serbia and Russia and the numerous UN resolutions. I can not help thinking that eventually north Cyprus will follow suit for the big players in the area are anxious to get the issue solved. They have more pressing issues to attend to.

There is, therefore, on way to go forward for the Greek and Turkish Cypriots that do not want to see Cyprus partitioned and divided forever. Get together and seek a solution. The President to be elected in February should meet with Talat on a daily basis and forge a working relationship that will bring a solution that will be accepted by both communities. This will need to be done real fast for the realities on the ground are not helping and are deteriorating by the day. The settlers are part of the bigger problem and the sooner we solve the Cyprus problem the better issues like the settlers will be accounted for.

[DT.]

DT, are you trying to alienate everybody? Utu deserves better and asking something that others may be thinking of is not a cardinal sin. Why do you not just give the obvious answer?

I was just listening to the news on Euronews just now and realised that Kosovo is about to be granted independence, despite the objections of Serbia and Russia and the numerous UN resolutions. I can not help thinking that eventually north Cyprus will follow suit for the big players in the area are anxious to get the issue solved. They have more pressing issues to attend to.

There is, therefore, on way to go forward for the Greek and Turkish Cypriots that do not want to see Cyprus partitioned and divided forever. Get together and seek a solution. The President to be elected in February should meet with Talat on a daily basis and forge a working relationship that will bring a solution that will be accepted by both communities. This will need to be done real fast for the realities on the ground are not helping and are deteriorating by the day. The settlers are part of the bigger problem and the sooner we solve the Cyprus problem the better issues like the settlers will be accounted for.

WHat is the obvious answer Bananiot?

[Kikapu]

November 15. For the people north of the Green Line, it is a day of celebration. For the people south of the Green line, it is certainly NOT a day to celebrate. Twenty-Four years have passed since the Unilateral Declaration of Independence that proclaimed the establishment of the TRNC. For a pariah state, that is actually quite a long time. Rhodesia didn't last nearly as long. Makes one think...

It makes me think all the time utu. I mean, do the TC's really understand the meaning of the word "Independence" it really is.?? I can only reach a conclusion that they do not understand, other than just a glorified word meaning illegal partition which does nothing but bring hardship on it's own people. In the meantime, it allows those in power to commit corruption and illegal activities over the citizens of the RoC as well as over their own community, the TC's. I know I have said this over and over again, but what goes on in the "Independent TRNC" is nothing more than what the Pigs have done in "Animal Farm" story. Even the Palestinians understand that by declaring a Unilateral Independence is nothing short of a disaster for their own people, who have suffered absolute hardship under the Israeli occupation. I can only deduce from their thinking by not declaring a Unilateral statehood, is that they are just that little bit more smarter than what the Denktash and and the Gang had done in 1984, because Turkey had agreed to recognise them. Perhaps the thinking was, if Turkey can recognise them, just because Turkey is such a brilliant Democracy and world economic power house, and an influential world military power, then the rest of the world will just follow in Turkeys footstep.....until the daylight came around and the sun rose again and the sweet dream had come to an end, and all the thoughts of Turkey's role on the world stage was nothing more than a wishful dream. But unfortunately, those in position of corrupted power still have the anniversary of the "Independence" every year, perhaps just to remind us that they cannot even hold a Friendly International football match against a meaningless football team such as Luton Town from the UK, without the approval of the country they supposed to have gotten Independence from.

The mind does wonder indeed.!!!