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[utu]

To be honest, I never enjoyed French, GR. But for your information, 'Cie la vie' (That's life) was the view expressed by a lot of Francophones all over Canada after the defeat of the last independence referendum. That's why I added it.

Patriotisme ou pragmatisme ? Prenez votre choisir, mon ami.

[miltiades]

VP , I trust the T/C community just as much I trust the G/C community. You must admit however that it is rather difficult for the larger community to accept that 50% of the Police stations would T/C administered and 50% G/C .
Its like saying that the Turkish people in Turkey would readily and happily accept that 50% of Turkish police stations in Turkey would by administered by the Kurds with a Kurdish flag flying !!!
As far as I'm concerned , in Cyprus there are only Cypriots , I do not see a minority or a majority. I have previously expressed my sincere wish to see a T/C as president of a united Cyprus , provided HE WAS A CYPRIOT president for all Cypriots. I have many T/C friends and there are some I would gladly and enthusiastically support not caring if they are T/Cs or indeed G/Cs.The difference between you and I is that although you were born in the UK you led a very sheltered life , it shows in your statements , you never mixed with other Cypriots in fact you saw yourself as a Pakistani and returned to Cyprus because you felt that the UK was a foreign country for you.
I on the hand adore this country for all its faults , the politicians doing , it is still a great nation.
Cyprus of course is in a different league naturally being the Jewell of the Mediterranean !!!

That is a great ideal, Miltiades. However, can that ideal become reality if there is no will in both communities to reconcile?

Utu there is will amongst the Cypriot communities for reconciliation. This forum which repressents a minute amount of Cypriots has proved it. Kikapu , myself , Birkibrisly , Ahmed , TC , Bananiot , Nikitas , Deniz and many more have voiced their support for reconciliation and their readiness to forgive and forget. I have often been acused by mostly VP , of searching for Utopia , on the contrary , I'm searching for common sense and common sense dictades that Cyprus can not be divided because future generations will resist the divison and more conflicts will ensue just as day follows night .

[utu]

Utu there is will amongst the Cypriot communities for reconciliation. This forum which repressents a minute amount of Cypriots has proved it. Kikapu , myself , Birkibrisly , Ahmed , TC , Bananiot , Nikitas , Deniz and many more have voiced their support for reconciliation and their readiness to forgive and forget. I have often been acused by mostly VP , of searching for Utopia , on the contrary , I'm searching for common sense and common sense dictades that Cyprus can not be divided because future generations will resist the divison and more conflicts will ensue just as day follows night .

Of course, one can also say that the longer that partition lasts, the more that people will be resigned to it. The reunifiaction of both Germanys and Yemens still have their fair share of their people having nostalgia for the 'old days of partition'. In any case, reconciliation is something that needs to be sought. Unfortunately, wherever I have voiced my concerns regarding pragmatism over idealism, I've come under attack on this forum.

[Get Real!]

To be honest, I never enjoyed French, GR. But for your information, 'Cie la vie' (That's life) was the view expressed by a lot of Francophones all over Canada after the defeat of the last independence referendum. That's why I added it.

It's not the view I'm worried about but the spelling... shouldn't that be "C'est la vie" ?

[Viewpoint]

VP , I trust the T/C community just as much I trust the G/C community. You must admit however that it is rather difficult for the larger community to accept that 50% of the Police stations would T/C administered and 50% G/C .
Its like saying that the Turkish people in Turkey would readily and happily accept that 50% of Turkish police stations in Turkey would by administered by the Kurds with a Kurdish flag flying !!!
As far as I'm concerned , in Cyprus there are only Cypriots , I do not see a minority or a majority. I have previously expressed my sincere wish to see a T/C as president of a united Cyprus , provided HE WAS A CYPRIOT president for all Cypriots. I have many T/C friends and there are some I would gladly and enthusiastically support not caring if they are T/Cs or indeed G/Cs.The difference between you and I is that although you were born in the UK you led a very sheltered life , it shows in your statements , you never mixed with other Cypriots in fact you saw yourself as a Pakistani and returned to Cyprus because you felt that the UK was a foreign country for you.
I on the hand adore this country for all its faults , the politicians doing , it is still a great nation.
Cyprus of course is in a different league naturally being the Jewell of the Mediterranean !!!

That is a great ideal, Miltiades. However, can that ideal become reality if there is no will in both communities to reconcile?

Utu there is will amongst the Cypriot communities for reconciliation. This forum which repressents a minute amount of Cypriots has proved it. Kikapu , myself , Birkibrisly , Ahmed , TC , Bananiot , Nikitas , Deniz and many more have voiced their support for reconciliation and their readiness to forgive and forget. I have often been acused by mostly VP , of searching for Utopia , on the contrary , I'm searching for common sense and common sense dictades that Cyprus can not be divided because future generations will resist the divison and more conflicts will ensue just as day follows night .

As long as the GCs are the majority you will sing the song "we are all Cypriots" Tcs are not stupid they will never fall into this trap.

[miltiades]

Turkish you are but Cypriot YOU ARE NOT mate .

[Daemon]

Unfortunately, wherever I have voiced my concerns regarding pragmatism over idealism, I've come under attack on this forum.

Yes some people living in fartllusions and when someone try to present them the world reality out of their pathetic introvert virtual reality is considered like an enemy and what by attacking him they will actually achieve something more from staying idiots.

[Get Real!]

As long as the GCs are the majority you will sing the song "we are all Cypriots" Tcs are not stupid they will never fall into this trap.

Ever heard of "penny wise and pound foolish" ? If falling into the "Greek trap" is bad you just wait till you walk into the Turkish one!

[Kikapu]

As long as the GCs are the majority you will sing the song "we are all Cypriots"
Tcs are not stupid they will never fall into this trap.

Not as long as we are holding the GC's land and property in the "TRNC", while still owning our own TC land in the RoC.

A deal like that, who needs to be "We are all Cypriots".

Double Dipping is more like it.

But once the GC properties are given back to their rightful owners, then we will all become Cypriots again.

Without the stolen GC land, there is no "TRNC".

[Daemon]

Kikapu I can find a lot of reasons to hate your motherland (I hate mine and yours) but let’s stay to reality while we can save something, like you are saying the only problem is the property issue that is about to solved by ECHR, is not about time to do our best to come to a BBF (that is already agreed from all the Cypriots presidents) solution before we will lead to a division?

And you as a TC’s that hates Turks you think what TPap is the appropriate person to reunite Cyprus?

If you hate Turks so much you should also hate TPap and do not consider so much his stupid Mongolian face with this Anatolian noose think about what he thinks and acts like a Turk, it’s not about time to become Europeans and leave this crap behind while we may still have a chance?