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[boomerang]

As I said before, if she was away from Cyprus at the time of the 1974 Invasion, and had never returned to live in the "TRNC", then it would all been nothing but formality in getting her land back and sell it, if she wished to do so. So that opportunity was missed, because she does live in the "TRNC". Now she must go and live 6 months in the RoC, in order to do anything with her land. She can be confirmed by the Land Registry Office, through their computers, as your mother being the only registered owner of the 100 Donums. So far so good.

I think Kikapu hit the nail on the head...

this vp is just a bloody settler and nothing more...

[MR-from-NG]

As I said before, if she was away from Cyprus at the time of the 1974 Invasion, and had never returned to live in the "TRNC", then it would all been nothing but formality in getting her land back and sell it, if she wished to do so. So that opportunity was missed, because she does live in the "TRNC". Now she must go and live 6 months in the RoC, in order to do anything with her land. She can be confirmed by the Land Registry Office, through their computers, as your mother being the only registered owner of the 100 Donums. So far so good.

I think Kikapu hit the nail on the head...

this vp is just a bloody settler and nothing more...

Kikapu is a brainless and gutless sad case pretending to be a TC, his blood is more Greek than yours.

VP is the true voice of the TCs. He has the admiration of the community.

[Viewpoint]

As I said before, if she was away from Cyprus at the time of the 1974 Invasion, and had never returned to live in the "TRNC", then it would all been nothing but formality in getting her land back and sell it, if she wished to do so. So that opportunity was missed, because she does live in the "TRNC". Now she must go and live 6 months in the RoC, in order to do anything with her land. She can be confirmed by the Land Registry Office, through their computers, as your mother being the only registered owner of the 100 Donums. So far so good.

I think Kikapu hit the nail on the head...

this vp is just a bloody settler and nothing more...

Kikapu is a brainless and gutless sad case pretending to be a TC, his blood is more Greek than yours.

VP is the true voice of the TCs. He has the admiration of the community.

[Get Real!]

Err, what's that dude doing VP? Is that a double hander?

ps: my animation is turned off...

[Kikapu]

As I said before, if she was away from Cyprus at the time of the 1974 Invasion, and had never returned to live in the "TRNC", then it would all been nothing but formality in getting her land back and sell it, if she wished to do so. So that opportunity was missed, because she does live in the "TRNC". Now she must go and live 6 months in the RoC, in order to do anything with her land. She can be confirmed by the Land Registry Office, through their computers, as your mother being the only registered owner of the 100 Donums. So far so good.

I think Kikapu hit the nail on the head...

this vp is just a bloody settler and nothing more...

Kikapu is a brainless and gutless sad case pretending to be a TC, his blood is more Greek than yours.

VP is the true voice of the TCs. He has the admiration of the community.

Looks like Mr. Frog is back from his hibernation with the other Toads.

Perhaps he is trying very hard to elevate himself from being a regular Mr. Frog to becoming a True Partitionist Toad.

[kafenes]

North concerned about Syria ferry bringing illegal immigrants
By Jean Christou

POLICE IN the north are concerned that the ferry services between occupied Famagusta and Latakia in Syria could increase smuggling of illegal immigrants into the north.

Speaking to a committee of officials, the head of Turkish Cypriot police Gunay Ozan said the authorities were experiencing a problem with the service, Halkin Sesi newspaper reported yesterday.

Ozan said that although they had managed to combat illegal immigration to the point where numbers were decreasing, the start of the ferry service was posing a problem.

The controversial Syria ferry service began in October but has not been doing well and recently cut back to one trip a week from two due to average passenger numbers of around 20 people per trip even though the vessel has the capacity for 297.

The government has been trying for weeks to persuade Syria to put a stop to the service and said recently the assurances they had been given from Damascus that the ferry would be stopped.

If the service is being used for people smuggling, it could have implications for the numbers of illegal immigrants flooding into the south of the island, since 99 per cent of all asylum seekers and illegals come though the north.

Figures released last week by the Justice Minister showed that and up to the end of August this year all but three of the 3,200 illegal immigrants caught entering had arrived from the north.
Ozan said the Turkish Cypriot side was also working to improve security at the crossing point at Pergamos and were cooperating with the British bases on this issue.

Last week a 30-year-old Syrian asylum seeker was shot dead by a police officer during a sting on people smuggling at nearby Pyla, and 13 others were arrested. All had entered the south through the occupied areas.



Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007

They are going to stop the ferry services to do the ROC a great favour. So nice of them.

So, what about the ferry services from Turkey???

[Kikapu]

North concerned about Syria ferry bringing illegal immigrants
By Jean Christou

POLICE IN the north are concerned that the ferry services between occupied Famagusta and Latakia in Syria could increase smuggling of illegal immigrants into the north.

Speaking to a committee of officials, the head of Turkish Cypriot police Gunay Ozan said the authorities were experiencing a problem with the service, Halkin Sesi newspaper reported yesterday.

Ozan said that although they had managed to combat illegal immigration to the point where numbers were decreasing, the start of the ferry service was posing a problem.

The controversial Syria ferry service began in October but has not been doing well and recently cut back to one trip a week from two due to average passenger numbers of around 20 people per trip even though the vessel has the capacity for 297.

The government has been trying for weeks to persuade Syria to put a stop to the service and said recently the assurances they had been given from Damascus that the ferry would be stopped.

If the service is being used for people smuggling, it could have implications for the numbers of illegal immigrants flooding into the south of the island, since 99 per cent of all asylum seekers and illegals come though the north.

Figures released last week by the Justice Minister showed that and up to the end of August this year all but three of the 3,200 illegal immigrants caught entering had arrived from the north.
Ozan said the Turkish Cypriot side was also working to improve security at the crossing point at Pergamos and were cooperating with the British bases on this issue.

Last week a 30-year-old Syrian asylum seeker was shot dead by a police officer during a sting on people smuggling at nearby Pyla, and 13 others were arrested. All had entered the south through the occupied areas.



Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007

This has to be one of the worst Face Saving Propaganda I have seen coming out of any Government for a very long time. Rather than admitting that the "TRNC" pushed to get this ill thought out Ferry Service so that they can do some crowing on being recognised and stick one to the RoC, they are now saying, they have been trying for weeks to get the Syrians to stop the service. I did not know, that the Syrians forced this service on the "TRNC". Damn service has only been running for no more than few weeks to begin with, so what the hell are they talking about. Then I love the reason that was given too. "The "TRNC" is concern with illegal Immigrants coming over by the Ferry". Say what.?? The service is only running once a week with ONLY 20 people aboard and the 40,000 Turkish troops cant handle these 20 persons at the arriving port. Talk about a complete incompetence by the "TRNC's" authority. Well, with this kind of track record not being able to handle 20 persons arriving once a week, then it's about time to put a stop to wanting to having Direct Flights.

What do you think "TRNC".???

[Kikapu]

I agreed with Kifeas has he cleverly incorporated a veto right for TCs when matters were sensative and could result in the TCs being effected negatively.

VP, what the hell are you talking about. You wanted safeguards in voting and Kifeas gave you one, so that you have a say so in your communities future and decision making. Where exactly does Kifeas's Plan effect the TC's in a negative way.

This is the formula crated by Kifeas, also known as "Kifeas's Plan" for POWER sharing in a Parliamentary system.

Quote:
If we have a house of 100 members (80 GCs plus 20 TCs) and decisions are taken on simple majority, it means that at least any 51 members out of the above 100 members will have to approve it. However, in order to qualify as simple majority, at least 4 (or 6) of the votes must come (included in the 51 votes needed) from the 20 TCs (20% or 30% of the TC members,) and at least 16 (or 24) of the votes must come from (included in the 51votes needed) from the 80 GCs.

For example we can have the following combination for simple majority to qualify.
I take a special case example that needs 30% minimum from each side.

Case 1:
6 TCs plus 45 GCs equals 51 /100. (Qualifies)

Case 2:
20 TCs plus 31 GCs equals 51 /100. (Qualifies)

Case 3:
5 TCs plus 46 GCs equals 51 /100 (it doesn’t qualify)

Case 4:
1 TC plus 80 GCs equals 81 /100 (it doesn’t qualify)

[Get Real!]

The service is only running once a week with ONLY 20 people aboard and the 40,000 Turkish troops cant handle these 20 persons at the arriving port. Talk about a complete incompetence by the "TRNC's" authority. Well, with this kind of track record not being able to handle 20 persons arriving once a week, then it's about time to put a stop to wanting to having Direct Flights.

You mean its about time to put a stop to wanting to run a "state" altogether!

[Kikapu]

So in effect you have answered your own question that TCs cannot do anything with their land in ho so democratic south, there are many obstacles placed in TCs path from the "RoC" "ministers" to the corrupt lawyers who use delaying tactics to slow down the legal process on the instructions of your beloved "RoC", fyi these offices in the GC state would never enquire to the TRNC as it would be tantamount to recognition.

You would do yourself and everyone else a great favor if you used less accusations of not telling the truth, your arrogance is riddled like the plague in your post and concentrated more on the injustice imposed on many innocent TCs who live in the TRNC and have not gotten anything for their land in the south in the north. You can make up your little excuses to camoflouge your worship for the GC states system of stopping TCs from havingjust as many problems with land issues when trying to claim their rights within a supposedly democratic EU country which has one set of rules for GCs and another for TCs, this makes your country the "RoC" a hypocrite and just as bad as the TRNC when it comes to land issues.

Democracy works both ways I'm afraid VP, and not when you only need it for your own purpose. You cannot blame the RoC for being careful not to reward some TC's who want to cash in their lands in the South, while they are sitting on GC land in the North. No doubt innocent TC's will also get hurt by this practice, but that is the condition the "TRNC" has created by giving away GC's properties with titles to those who do not own them, so blame your own government for being co-conspirators of distributing GC land.

I did not have a question, so I'm in no way answering my own question. I was answering your question that you put to me, as to if I understood about the TC's land situation in the RoC or was I clueless.?? So what do you think, am I clueless or not so.??

I must ask you this very important question regarding your mothers 100 Donums. Why didn't your mother sell her land to the "TRNC" so that she does not have to deal with the RoC.???? Why would she not want to keep her land in the hands of the "TRNC". You as a hater of the RoC, surely would have recommended to her to sell it to the "TRNC" and not the RoC. Would you please answer me this question.