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[DT.]

Those who tried to give Cyprus to Greece were fiercely resisted by GREEK CYPRIOTS. How much resistance have you put up against Turkish thievery VP?

Who voted for enosis? 99.9% of the Greek Cypriots....did we as TCs try to force you to become part of another country prior to your eoka dream? 1974 everyone was fighting for their lives and feared annihilation, this sort of fear will drive people to extremes. The current situation is just as much your doing as it is mine and we have said yes to try and resolves matters unfortunately you did not want unification under the AP as it did not give you everything you wanted so the problem still exists between us therefore complaining that we have done nothing is not right, you should really do some self analysis and see that the GCs have done nothing over the past 3 years yet want everything using the EU, it will take another 50 years for you guys to realize that the route you are taking will get you nowhere, you are just to stubborn and arrogant to realize this.

whereas your open mindedness and flexibility has left me breathless over the past 3000 odd posts VP.

[Viewpoint]

Those who tried to give Cyprus to Greece were fiercely resisted by GREEK CYPRIOTS. How much resistance have you put up against Turkish thievery VP?

Who voted for enosis? 99.9% of the Greek Cypriots....did we as TCs try to force you to become part of another country prior to your eoka dream? 1974 everyone was fighting for their lives and feared annihilation, this sort of fear will drive people to extremes. The current situation is just as much your doing as it is mine and we have said yes to try and resolves matters unfortunately you did not want unification under the AP as it did not give you everything you wanted so the problem still exists between us therefore complaining that we have done nothing is not right, you should really do some self analysis and see that the GCs have done nothing over the past 3 years yet want everything using the EU, it will take another 50 years for you guys to realize that the route you are taking will get you nowhere, you are just to stubborn and arrogant to realize this.

whereas your open mindedness and flexibility has left me breathless over the past 3000 odd posts VP.

Thank you very much for spotting that fact.

[miltiades]

Also spotted the fact that the 80 plus % of Cypriots had every right to determine their own future. In my opinion Enosis was the wrong goal and consideration should have been given to those Cypriots ie the T/Cs who would not favour Enosis. You can not however fail to see that like all majorities in all nations , ie the Turkish majority in Turkey who would carry out what ever they wished contrary to the preferences of their size able minorities , the Cypriots acted well within the boundaries of majority wishes.
Let me make it clear that I supported Enosis during those years but like most of G/Cs we NEVER considered the T/Cs as our enemies until they joined the British auxiliary forces fighting the movement , and then many T/Cs expressed their dismay that their compatriots had chosen for financial reasons ONLY to join the British.
You are making far too much of Enosis , no one in their right mind would today call for Enosis , the idea is dead and buried FOR EVER .We are in independent nation member of the United Nations and the European Union, and your place is with us not with your so called motherland you know very well that the settlers outnumber the indigenous population of the North part of Cyprus and that Turkey IS the ruling power. How long before the T/C joins the list of endangered species .

[DT.]

Those who tried to give Cyprus to Greece were fiercely resisted by GREEK CYPRIOTS. How much resistance have you put up against Turkish thievery VP?

Who voted for enosis? 99.9% of the Greek Cypriots....did we as TCs try to force you to become part of another country prior to your eoka dream? 1974 everyone was fighting for their lives and feared annihilation, this sort of fear will drive people to extremes. The current situation is just as much your doing as it is mine and we have said yes to try and resolves matters unfortunately you did not want unification under the AP as it did not give you everything you wanted so the problem still exists between us therefore complaining that we have done nothing is not right, you should really do some self analysis and see that the GCs have done nothing over the past 3 years yet want everything using the EU, it will take another 50 years for you guys to realize that the route you are taking will get you nowhere, you are just to stubborn and arrogant to realize this.

whereas your open mindedness and flexibility has left me breathless over the past 3000 odd posts VP.

Thank you very much for spotting that fact.

hmm, you're starting to remind me of someone else with your open mindedness and flexibility.

[Peterc]

Those who tried to give Cyprus to Greece were fiercely resisted by GREEK CYPRIOTS. How much resistance have you put up against Turkish thievery VP?

Who voted for enosis? 99.9% of the Greek Cypriots....did we as TCs try to force you to become part of another country prior to your eoka dream? 1974 everyone was fighting for their lives and feared annihilation, this sort of fear will drive people to extremes. The current situation is just as much your doing as it is mine and we have said yes to try and resolves matters unfortunately you did not want unification under the AP as it did not give you everything you wanted so the problem still exists between us therefore complaining that we have done nothing is not right, you should really do some self analysis and see that the GCs have done nothing over the past 3 years yet want everything using the EU, it will take another 50 years for you guys to realize that the route you are taking will get you nowhere, you are just to stubborn and arrogant to realize this.

whereas your open mindedness and flexibility has left me breathless over the past 3000 odd posts VP.

Thank you very much for spotting that fact.

hmm, you're starting to remind me of someone else with your open mindedness and flexibility.

[Viewpoint]

Also spotted the fact that the 80 plus % of Cypriots had every right to determine their own future. In my opinion Enosis was the wrong goal and consideration should have been given to those Cypriots ie the T/Cs who would not favour Enosis. You can not however fail to see that like all majorities in all nations , ie the Turkish majority in Turkey who would carry out what ever they wished contrary to the preferences of their size able minorities , the Cypriots acted well within the boundaries of majority wishes.
Let me make it clear that I supported Enosis during those years but like most of G/Cs we NEVER considered the T/Cs as our enemies until they joined the British auxiliary forces fighting the movement , and then many T/Cs expressed their dismay that their compatriots had chosen for financial reasons ONLY to join the British.
You are making far too much of Enosis , no one in their right mind would today call for Enosis , the idea is dead and buried FOR EVER .We are in independent nation member of the United Nations and the European Union, and your place is with us not with your so called motherland you know very well that the settlers outnumber the indigenous population of the North part of Cyprus and that Turkey IS the ruling power. How long before the T/C joins the list of endangered species .

Haven't you realized that our partners and only ally for over 33 years has been Turkey not GCs of the Gc state "RoC", we are not part of your country, for this to change the "RoC" has to take the lead and prove that TCs will play an active role in a united Cyprus and that life will be better than it is today. The last 3 years have proved that neither side is willing to concede what they view is defeat..both sides are to proud to take a step back and compromise to accommodate the other side. I cannot see any side being bold enough to take steps that would unite, we are further away form a solution that we have ever been.

[Kikapu]

Also spotted the fact that the 80 plus % of Cypriots had every right to determine their own future. In my opinion Enosis was the wrong goal and consideration should have been given to those Cypriots ie the T/Cs who would not favour Enosis. You can not however fail to see that like all majorities in all nations , ie the Turkish majority in Turkey who would carry out what ever they wished contrary to the preferences of their size able minorities , the Cypriots acted well within the boundaries of majority wishes.
Let me make it clear that I supported Enosis during those years but like most of G/Cs we NEVER considered the T/Cs as our enemies until they joined the British auxiliary forces fighting the movement , and then many T/Cs expressed their dismay that their compatriots had chosen for financial reasons ONLY to join the British.
You are making far too much of Enosis , no one in their right mind would today call for Enosis , the idea is dead and buried FOR EVER .We are in independent nation member of the United Nations and the European Union, and your place is with us not with your so called motherland you know very well that the settlers outnumber the indigenous population of the North part of Cyprus and that Turkey IS the ruling power. How long before the T/C joins the list of endangered species .

Haven't you realized that our partners and only ally for over 33 years has been Turkey .

As long as you are aware, that there's always going to be a price paid to Turkey by the TC's sooner or later regarding the EU membership.

As my old girlfriend use to say, "If can't fuck a friend, who can you fuck".!!!

I would keep my back against the wall if I were you.

[Viewpoint]

Also spotted the fact that the 80 plus % of Cypriots had every right to determine their own future. In my opinion Enosis was the wrong goal and consideration should have been given to those Cypriots ie the T/Cs who would not favour Enosis. You can not however fail to see that like all majorities in all nations , ie the Turkish majority in Turkey who would carry out what ever they wished contrary to the preferences of their size able minorities , the Cypriots acted well within the boundaries of majority wishes.
Let me make it clear that I supported Enosis during those years but like most of G/Cs we NEVER considered the T/Cs as our enemies until they joined the British auxiliary forces fighting the movement , and then many T/Cs expressed their dismay that their compatriots had chosen for financial reasons ONLY to join the British.
You are making far too much of Enosis , no one in their right mind would today call for Enosis , the idea is dead and buried FOR EVER .We are in independent nation member of the United Nations and the European Union, and your place is with us not with your so called motherland you know very well that the settlers outnumber the indigenous population of the North part of Cyprus and that Turkey IS the ruling power. How long before the T/C joins the list of endangered species .

Haven't you realized that our partners and only ally for over 33 years has been Turkey .

As long as you are aware, that there's always going to be a price paid to Turkey by the TC's sooner or later regarding the EU membership.

As my old girlfriend use to say, "If can't fuck a friend, who can you fuck".!!!

I would keep my back against the wall if I were you.

Do you take your wife for a meal pay the bill and then take her home for sex? its all part of a partnership.

[Kikapu]

Haven't you realized that our partners and only ally for over 33 years has been Turkey .

As long as you are aware, that there's always going to be a price paid to Turkey by the TC's sooner or later regarding the EU membership.

As my old girlfriend use to say, "If can't fuck a friend, who can you fuck".!!!

I would keep my back against the wall if I were you.

Do you take your wife for a meal pay the bill and then take her home for sex? its all part of a partnership.

Actually, we have sex before we go out to meal.

No VP, what you described above is prostitution. Sex for a meal can only be seen as prostitution, even if the woman is your wife.

In my relationship, our meals are paid from a joint account, so following your example, we are paying for our own sex, but in reality of course, sex is part of the relationship and not because one pays for it with meals.

But I can see how you may have come to that conclusion. Just because Turkey gives you food and money, you feel obliged to "bend over".

Well, the truth is, you don't need to "bend over" because what Turkey wants is the land, and not you. By "bending over" constitutes prostitution on your part, on top of giving your land to Turkey.

Is that a good deal for Turkey, or what.??

[Viewpoint]

Haven't you realized that our partners and only ally for over 33 years has been Turkey .

As long as you are aware, that there's always going to be a price paid to Turkey by the TC's sooner or later regarding the EU membership.

As my old girlfriend use to say, "If can't fuck a friend, who can you fuck".!!!

I would keep my back against the wall if I were you.

Do you take your wife for a meal pay the bill and then take her home for sex? its all part of a partnership.

Actually, we have sex before we go out to meal.

No VP, what you described above is prostitution. Sex for a meal can only be seen as prostitution, even if the woman is your wife.

In my relationship, our meals are paid from a joint account, so following your example, we are paying for our own sex, but in reality of course, sex is part of the relationship and not because one pays for it with meals.

But I can see how you may have come to that conclusion. Just because Turkey gives you food and money, you feel obliged to "bend over".

Well, the truth is, you don't need to "bend over" because what Turkey wants is the land, and not you. By "bending over" constitutes prostitution on your part, on top of giving your land to Turkey.

Is that a good deal for Turkey, or what.??

All a matter of viewpoint, you see it as prostitution we see it as a healthy relationship, we to pay back as 75% of our imports are from Turkey, so you may try and twist things around but our relationship with Turkey will always be a strong one which will not be dented by silly remarks made by people like you.