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[Daemon]

who said God is a he?

Judaist’s religions have also a name for the god, they call him Jehovah or Allah at variance with many other religions, like for example Taoism that is speaking for the way (Tao means the way) where god is neutral like was also in the most advanced (in the noetic field) philosophy religion of all times the ancient Greek one, where the one (to EN) were including everything and was called simply divine (to thio).

Miracles do not happen in Cyprus only.

Yes that’s why we must find the reasons/causes in but also out of the religions, the religion with the most miracles is Hinduism, there are more than 1000 miracles per day.

[craigbeck]

Agreed....... there is no evidence that god exists, equally you could argue there is no evidence that he does NOT exist but there is no reason why anyone should believe it is more likely there is something rather than nothing. That is just humans not being able to cope with the fact that life could be essentially pointless

[GorillaGal]

who said God is a he?

Judaist’s religions have also a name for the god, they call him Jehovah or Allah at variance with many other religions, like for example Taoism that is speaking for the way (Tao means the way) where god is neutral like was also in the most advanced (in the noetic field) philosophy religion of all times the ancient Greek one, where the one (to EN) were including everything and was called simply divine (to thio).

[/quote]

again, i say, who says GOD is a HE?
the oldest religion there is, paganism, is a goddess religion.
after that, men became scared of women, because they did not understand our ability to bring life into the world, and from there on, they tried to put us down.

[zan]

Lena

I am so glad that your brother got out of that accident unscathed but a awful lot of technology in car safety went into that miracle and so a little praise for the car company and a lesson in buying cars with good crash test results would be in order. Formula one drivers have accidents at 200mph and survive because of technology. The car falls apart but he cab stays safe. In these cases, it is a miracle if anyone is killed so the process is reversed. Or we could take Nikitas quote and say the Devil is performing the anti-miracle.

Ok I dont believe in miracles in the way that i sit in my couch and wait for miracles to happen to me. I dont expect that I will win the lottery one day but i work hard to earn what i get. So I dont believe in luck that much either. Human beings have the ability to change their lives and not just sit and wait a miracle or the lucky moment.

GG he had a blue Renault megane capriolet. He loved that car so much that he insisted to be his first car and after the accident he got the same car again. Thank God everything is fine since then.

Zan I do understand that cars are made to drive them and go everywhere we want and protect us in case something happens. I could not imagine how many people were going to be dead by now if they made those cars unable to protect us. Anyway, you and IcyNoAngels believe that was pure luck. Maybe you are right. May be not. Who knows. I believed it was a miracle that he got out of that with not even a single scratch.

I dont believe that Devil is behind everything bad is happening and God behind everything good. I am not trying to convince anybody here I am just expressing my believes. And I am alive along with my brother for the same reason. So I do believe.

I once saw a program, and I think it might have even been Oprah, in which she had a lady in the studio that had fallen out of a plane at 30,000 feet and only broke her collar bone. She also had a video link to a hospital where a man had fallen 12 feet out of a tree and had broken his arms, shattered his knees and smashed his jaw to smithereens. Miracles or not........Until you look at what happened then a miracle....The lady that fell from a plane at 30,000 feet fell onto the side of a mountain that had thick snow on it and the perfect angle for her to slide down without to much damage to her self. She did not come to a sudden stop, which is what does the damage, but had been slowed down by the snow.......The guy in the tree fell and smashed his jaw into his knee breaking both.....He put his hand out and broke his arm also. It all makes sense in the end. Lucky that the mountain was there?......No...That airline flies over those mountains all the time. the chances are greater that way. A million people lose their lives and one person doesn't and it is a miracle?....NO.....the chances of one person out of a million surviving are quite high. Evolution depends on these sort of odds. It is the way the world works.

And Tess...the chances of having fairies at the bottom of my garden........None....They don't exist. Only at the bottom of a glass....HIC!!!!!!

[T_C]

I once wrote a good metaphor on here describing my beliefs in God...

I definately believe in a God. Not necessarily the God thats in the holy books but I definately believe in a creator. I cannot believe how people can think there ISN'T a creator.

[Piratis]

I cannot believe how people can think there ISN'T a creator.

And who created the creator?

If something "imperfect" like the universe could not have been created without a creator then surely the perfect God could not have been created without a cretor of its own either.

obviously it is difficult (or even impossible) to understand how could something be created out of nothing. But if getting something out of nothing is indeed impossible, then getting something perfect out of nothing is certainly impossible as well.

What I believe is that the "absolute truth", if such thing exists, is simply beyond the intelligence capabilities of human beings, for now at least (although I am not optimistic that this will ever change).

I think miracles do happen, but not in the sense of divine intervention. "Miracles" are simply events that our science can not currently explain. E.g. an eclipse could be considered a miracle some 1000s of years ago. Of course there are also the other kind of "miracles" which are intentionally created by the religious institutions in an effort to prove to the naive that they are the true representatives of "God".

[Daemon]

again, i say, who says GOD is a HE?
the oldest religion there is, paganism, is a goddess religion.
after that, men became scared of women, because they did not understand our ability to bring life into the world, and from there on, they tried to put us down.

The oldest religion is Hinduism and they believe in the being that covers everything like Christians are trying to pass through Plato ideas, the claim what the oldest religion is witchcraft have some truth but I can’t believe what they always had a woman for god like wicca have today.

If there is a god it’s everything and not something and this is what the greatest minds have said.

[storm]

Miracles happen when you believe and when you make that wish known. From cosmic ordering to Christianity it is evident that miracles happen. The main issue is to find out how to initiate them request them in such a way that they will materialise.

[T_C]

This is what I said before and I this is how I think of it...

Imagine if we built a really hi-tech computer that could actually function and think for itself (we probably already can, but imagine if it was extremely intelligent and almost had a life within that computer). An artificial intelligence if you like, controlling the security of a big building for instance. It does everything on its own but has no idea of our (it's creators) existance.

It doesn't know we (humans) exist, but lets say it has the capability of "imagining" what it's creator is like. Would a computer ever be able to imagine/guess how we have skin, eyes, mouth, teeth, how we have to floss, brush our teeth, drive cars, have children etc etc...NO!

I think that a similar concept applies to God. God is as different to us as we would be to that computer. It's as hard for us to guess what God is as it would be for that computer to guess what a human is and how a human works. It would be impossible for the computer to guess what tools we used in order to assemble it and neither can we when it comes to our creator.

IMPORTANT: I'm just using the computer as a metaphor by the way!

I think of God as a totally different form of existance/reality or whatever you want to call it. One we cannot ever comprehend, imagine or even visualise but I definately believe in a "higher being".

Plus there is just no point in trying to establish what God is by using the rules of life down here (in the universe). If there is a God then hes "above" everything we know since he created it all, so none of it would necessarily apply to him.

So we couldn't say "Who made God" because whos to say whatever God is needs to be made?

It's deep, but I love thinking about this stuff...

[LENA]

Lena

I am so glad that your brother got out of that accident unscathed but a awful lot of technology in car safety went into that miracle and so a little praise for the car company and a lesson in buying cars with good crash test results would be in order. Formula one drivers have accidents at 200mph and survive because of technology. The car falls apart but he cab stays safe. In these cases, it is a miracle if anyone is killed so the process is reversed. Or we could take Nikitas quote and say the Devil is performing the anti-miracle.

Ok I dont believe in miracles in the way that i sit in my couch and wait for miracles to happen to me. I dont expect that I will win the lottery one day but i work hard to earn what i get. So I dont believe in luck that much either. Human beings have the ability to change their lives and not just sit and wait a miracle or the lucky moment.

GG he had a blue Renault megane capriolet. He loved that car so much that he insisted to be his first car and after the accident he got the same car again. Thank God everything is fine since then.

Zan I do understand that cars are made to drive them and go everywhere we want and protect us in case something happens. I could not imagine how many people were going to be dead by now if they made those cars unable to protect us. Anyway, you and IcyNoAngels believe that was pure luck. Maybe you are right. May be not. Who knows. I believed it was a miracle that he got out of that with not even a single scratch.

I dont believe that Devil is behind everything bad is happening and God behind everything good. I am not trying to convince anybody here I am just expressing my believes. And I am alive along with my brother for the same reason. So I do believe.

I once saw a program, and I think it might have even been Oprah, in which she had a lady in the studio that had fallen out of a plane at 30,000 feet and only broke her collar bone. She also had a video link to a hospital where a man had fallen 12 feet out of a tree and had broken his arms, shattered his knees and smashed his jaw to smithereens. Miracles or not........Until you look at what happened then a miracle....The lady that fell from a plane at 30,000 feet fell onto the side of a mountain that had thick snow on it and the perfect angle for her to slide down without to much damage to her self. She did not come to a sudden stop, which is what does the damage, but had been slowed down by the snow.......The guy in the tree fell and smashed his jaw into his knee breaking both.....He put his hand out and broke his arm also. It all makes sense in the end. Lucky that the mountain was there?......No...That airline flies over those mountains all the time. the chances are greater that way. A million people lose their lives and one person doesn't and it is a miracle?....NO.....the chances of one person out of a million surviving are quite high. Evolution depends on these sort of odds. It is the way the world works.

And Tess...the chances of having fairies at the bottom of my garden........None....They don't exist. Only at the bottom of a glass....HIC!!!!!!

I sound weird to you? Then imagine how weird you sound to me

Never said that the above were miracles and as I said many people called my brother a lucky guy that came out of that car alive etc. Is what comes with that accident and others that make me believe in miracles. As I said I dont believe that easily. I need some proof to believe in miracles and I dont think that happen 1000 every day or whatever. As Piratis said thinks happen that human brain cannot explain. People call them miracles...few years later they call them scientific discoveries.

But I will never understand how people cure from one moment to the other or how people survive from terrible accidents and a holly book or something like that is one their side.

For sure I believe in God not in the way that the priest and the church tells me to, but I believe that He is there. And miracles do happen. I am boring repeating that but i believe miracles happen. And if I was not clear miracles happen.