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[pantelis]

Reminder

I am not asking you whether you agree with Turkey's withdrawal from Cyprus or not.
What I want to know is:
If Turkey unilaterally withdraws from the island, would this action facilitate a compromise and an agreement between the two communities (speed up the "solution"), or things would become more difficult, than they already are?

[Saint Jimmy]

facilitate a compromise and an agreement between the two communities

This is where my objection lies. In that not both communities would compromise. A recipe for disaster, imo.

I know we've been through this again, pantelis, and we're supposed to have grown wiser, but I still maintain my doubts as to whether we truly have. It's one thing when this wisdom needs to be shown in the context of an agreed solution that we need to conform to, for the sake of reunification, and it's quite another to be left to our own GC devices. I, too, believe that we won't repeat the mistakes of the past (attempted imposing of a solution by force of arms), but I'm not so sure that we'd miss out on the chance to politically (not physically) kick some TC bootie and claim the glory of being the hegemon who saved Cypriot Hellenism (especially as long as we are led by a man who was politically active in the damned '60s).

[insan]

Insan,
I don't you speak for all Turkish Cypriots. Check the polls above
and go to bed!

What a coincidence. Two new members registered in the last 6 hours and one of them nick is "tayfun". It seems to me that they just registered to vote your poll. Now I'm gonna sign up 10 more TCs for your poll to make you happy.


I'm sure you send it UN, ECHR, Washington Post etc with giant headlines:

Vast majority of TCs want Turkish troops get out of Cyprus!

[cannedmoose]

I think he'd need a slightly larger vox pop poll for that insan... maybe you should spend the day signing up 1,000 aliases, it'd keep you busy and might help you relax a little arkadaşım.

[insan]

I think he'd need a slightly larger vox pop poll for that insan... maybe you should spend the day signing up 1,000 aliases, it'd keep you busy and might help you relax a little arkadaşım.

I relax myself with sex and music. I don't need such stupid things to relax. I hope you got the messeage, arkadaşım; cannedmoose.

[Piratis]

Insan, new members register almost every day. Many of them don't even make a single post. You didn't notice before?

I didn't vote in the poll yet. I believe if it will help or not it will depend on the why the Turkish army is being withdrawn and the general Turkish policy.

Is it withdrawn because Turkey decided to respect the UN resolutions and the sovereignty of RoC?

Will this withdrawal mean that Turkey will exercise less control over the TCs?

Or, it will be just a PR move by Turkey, and she will continue to support the partition of Cyprus and continue her control over the TCs? Because we and the TCs know that the Turkish troops will be just some kilometers away and they would be able to come back within minutes. So to have real value, such move should be part of a big change in the policy of Turkey regarding Cyprus.

[insan]

Insan, new members register almost every day. Many of them don't even make a single post. You didn't notice before?

Yes, Piratis. I noticed it. I even noticed that I can vote any poll as if I'm a GC, Brit or martian. Moreover I noticed that I can sign-up as many as different nicks; both with the same ip and with a different ip via proxy. I think these are what you haven't noticed yet.

It's not only Turkey that violates international treaties regarding the troop presence in RoC. Eldyk and National Guard also are violating those international treaties. This is also another thing that you haven't noticed yet.

Turkey does not want unilaterally withdraw most of her troops then come back for another peace operation to give you lots of propaganda material.


Your schemes have already costed loss of thousands of lives and huge sufferings. We don't need to experience the same tragedy one more time.

[brother]

I don't think it will make any difference unless all foreign troops leave, and even then unless the monkeys who call themselves poloticians can sit down and talk in a civilised manner and really want to find a solution this whole troop withdrawal is a waste of time, and anyway if we find a solution they will leave anyway.

[Piratis]

Yes, Piratis. I noticed it. I even noticed that I can vote any poll as if I'm a GC, Brit or martian. Moreover I noticed that I can sign-up as many as different nicks; both with the same ip and with a different ip via proxy. I think these are what you haven't noticed yet.

Sure, those things you said can be done. I just wonder why you decided to complain today, and not in any of the polls before this one.

It's not only Turkey that violates international treaties regarding the troop presence in RoC. Eldyk and National Guard also are violating those international treaties. This is also another thing that you haven't noticed yet.

Come on Insan. Eldyk and National Guard don't occupy foreign lands. It is ridiculous to compare them with the Turkish occupation force.

In any case, do you accept that everybody should respect international law, treaties, UN resolutions etc? I accept it, but you don't isn't it Insan? So when the Turkish army is so aggressive against us and doesn't want to respect anything, then don't come to accuse us because we are trying to defend ourselves from the Turkish aggression and expansionism.

[insan]

Come on Insan. Eldyk and National Guard don't occupy foreign lands. It is ridiculous to compare them with the Turkish occupation force.

Issue is not the occupation, the issue is violation of international treaties.

In any case, do you accept that everybody should respect international law, treaties, UN resolutions etc? I accept it, but you don't isn't it Insan?

I accept and that is what I'm asking for. Let's gradually reduce the military power on both sides of the Island and restore the treaty of alliance and treaty of guarantee. Turkey's "violations" have always been in respond to a violation of Hellenic side.

So when the Turkish army is so aggressive against us and doesn't want to respect anything, then don't come to accuse us because we are trying to defend ourselves from the Turkish aggression and expansionism.

If you respect international treaties, she too respects international treaties. You should worry about your side not to be the first who violates international treaties.