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[Kristianikos]

Hey, i have been wondering for a while whether or not i would have to join the army in Cyprus if i were to move there in the future.

What are the rules ?

Does my mother + father have to be Cypriot ? Or just my father ?

I have been told many different things, father, mother + father, mother, grandfather.

My mother is Cypriot and my father German.

Help much apreciated

[pantheman]

Hey, i have been wondering for a while whether or not i would have to join the army in Cyprus if i were to move there in the future.

What are the rules ?

Does my mother + father have to be Cypriot ? Or just my father ?

I have been told many different things, father, mother + father, mother, grandfather.

My mother is Cypriot and my father German.

Help much apreciated

To do national service you have to have cypriot citizenship.
Given your father was german, you won't get tihis anytime soon, although you can apply for it after living here for so many years

So , no citizenship = no army

Thats the current rules

There are other exemptions, such as if you were born prior to 1960, have 3 children and so on.

Good luck

[humanist]

pantheman, whats the go for me

I was born in 1968 left Cyprus at the age of 12 and have an Australian citizenship. I have been told three months by some six by others.

I figured the best way to get back the Brits for selling out Cyprus is to move to London as an EU citizen and live off the unemployment benefits. I think that would please her majesty and brown, and i wont have to serve in the NG.

[phoenix]

My nephew whose dad is Cypriot but mum foreign, was born in U.K. and the whole family like in U.K. and are citizens there, recently did 3 months army so that he would not need an exit visa each time he visited for more than a few weeks.

My son has a foreign dad, but because his mum, (me) is Cypriot, we have been told (Cyprus Embassy U.K.) that he would not need to do any military service (the fact he wants to is another matter )

So with a German dad you should be exempt . . . but why not contact the Consulate ?

[twinkle]

You'll have to do 6months by the looks of things. Following from the P&I office, Nicosia.

Cyprus National Guard

Enlistment

Enlistment Obligations - According to the National Guard Law, all male citizens of the Republic of Cyprus on the completion of their 18th year of age, as of the first of January of each year, and up to the age of 50, are under obligation to carry out national service.

Duration of National Service - In 2003, by a decision of the Council of Ministers, national service was reduced from 26 to 25 months.

Exemptions - All those included in the following categories are exempted from national service:
Those serving as permanent personnel in the Army or the Security Forcesor the Service of Prisons of the Republic.
Clergy.
Permanent Residents outside Cyprus.
Those judged as unsuitable for medical reasons.
The only or eldest son of a family who has a father or a brother killed or missing or died from wounds or privations or was wounded during his national service in the force, or while serving as a special officer, or when his family receives pension based on the Pension Fund and Extraordinary Benefits for Dependents of Persons Killed and Incapacitated Laws of 1962 to 1982.
The only or eldest son whose father or brother:
Disappeared or was killed or died from wounds or privations under extraordinary circumstances before the coup d’ état of 15 Jul 1974 and whose dependents, consequently, receive an allowance from the Republic.
Disappeared or was killed or died from wounds or privations during or after the coup d’ état of 15 July or during the conditions caused by the Turkish Invasion of 20 July 1974 and who was identified by the Allowance Committee as “killed in action” or as “fully capacitated”, depending on the case.
The prisoners of war who are considered as such by the Geneva Convention, as well as those held as hostages by the Turkish Invasion Forces, during or after the Turkish Invasion.
All persons who, on the date that they are called for national service, have more than three dependents, as well as those persons who acquire the above specified number of dependents during their national service.
Ministers, Members of the House of Parliament and Judges of any Court.
The sons of a family in which both parents are deceased at the time of enlistment.
Those who have dual nationality, being both Cypriot and Greek, given that during their permanent residence in Greece they have evidently completed (but not “bought” themselves out of the army service) the expected national service in the Greek National Forces.
Special Exemption Cases - Those who belong to the Maronite, Armenian and Latin Communities are exempted from their service in the National Guard, unless they declare that they wish to enlist in the National Guard (Voluntary Enlistment).

Enlistment Benefits - The military duty is reduced to 13 months in the following cases:
Firstborn son of a family with four male children
Firstborn or second born son of a family that, during the day of enlistment, has five or more male children alive.
Eldest or only son of a family with 5 children out of whom four are minors and not married.
The two eldest sons of a family with 6 or 7 children, out of whom four are minors and not married.
The 3 eldest, 4 eldest, 5 eldest, 6 eldest, 7 eldest sons of a family with 8 or 9, 10 11, 12 13, 14 and 15, 16 and 17 children respectively, out of whom 4 are minors and not married.
Orphans
The duration of service is reduced by 4 months for conscripts of whom one of their parents is not alive.

Family Circumstances - The duration of service is reduced by 13 months for the following persons:
The conscripts who are children of persons identified by competent Committees as “killed”, “victims”, “disappeared” or “fully incapacitated”.
The eldest sons of persons identified by the Allowance Committee as “incapacitated” during the wars for the Preservation of Independence, with percentage of disability over 49%.
From the Maternal Side The service of citizens of the Republic whose father is not a Cypriot citizen and who are not persons of Cypriot origin through male descent is reduced to 6 months, as long as: ¦ They were born in Cyprus or any foreign country between 16 August 1960 and 1 June 1999. Voluntarily and after submitting an application, they have registered and become citizens of the Republic, based on the article 4(3) of the Law for the Citizens of the Republic of Cyprus of 1967 to 2002, because at the year of their birth their mother was or was allowed to become a citizen of the Republic of Cyprus.
Repatriated Emigrants The national service is reduced for those persons, who were born or emigrated with their families abroad, for a time interval of over 10 years and have returned to Cyprus for final residence, depending on their age at the time of their arrival, i.e.
Persons aged 10 to 13 years on their return to Cyprus will serve for 18 months.
Persons aged 13 to 18 years on their return to Cyprus will serve for 12 months.
Persons aged 18 to 25 years on their return to Cyprus will serve for 6 months.
Persons aged 26 to 49 years on their return to Cyprus, will serve for 3 months. Enlistment of Conscripts - The enlistment of conscripts is initiated by a decision of the Council of Ministers and is implemented in two intakes in the months of January and July of each year.

Reduction of Disciplinary Sentences
The first forty (40) days of disciplinary sentences (which translate into additional days of service) are waved.
In cases of special circumstances the Minister of Defense has the power to reduce completely or in part the duration of disciplinary sentence to be served when it exceeds 100 days (for example for a total of 150 days of disciplinary remand, the conscript shall not serve the initial 40 days, shall definitely serve the other 60, whereas the remaining 50 days can be reduced via a decision by the Minister of Defense).
Leave of Absence - During national service, the conscript is entitled to regular leave and sick-leave, as detailed on the table below.





Additional Leave of Absence - Additional leave of absence up to 60 days may be given to conscripts serving in the National Guard when participating in official international knowledge competitions or official international sports events.

Discharge Due to Special Circumstances - The Minister of Defense has the power to discharge conscripts, by age-group or part thereof, by region or category, or in special cases, person by person, following their application, for reasons of special circumstances (such as family, social and economic reasons).

[Sotos]

From the Maternal Side The service of citizens of the Republic whose father is not a Cypriot citizen and who are not persons of Cypriot origin through male descent is reduced to 6 months, as long as: ¦ They were born in Cyprus or any foreign country between 16 August 1960 and 1 June 1999.

That will not apply to him because he is not a citizen. He will not have to serve unless he gets the citizenship. He is not considered Repatriated either. Sorry Kristianikos but for Cyprus you are considered a foreigner but in the case of the army thats a good think believe me

[humanist]

Twinkle thank you very much for thatinformation.

Looks like am only gonna have to do 3 months only because am over 26 and under 49.

Really as if an old fart like me at 40 be able to run as fast as a 20 year old. Lets just scrap the whole thing I say and hope that the turks leave us alone.

[twinkle]

Sotos I don't think citizenship has anything to do with it. It's to do with your parentage.

Kristianikos-What kind of ID do you have? Is it the standard Cypriot or aliens one?

[dinos]

Sotos I don't think citizenship has anything to do with it. It's to do with your parentage.

Kristianikos-What kind of ID do you have? Is it the standard Cypriot or aliens one?

Twinlkle, I'm not an expert in this subject matter, but believe that all children with a Cypriot father are automatically considered to be Cypriot citizens. Those born to Cypriot mothers outside CY are not, but can apply for citizenship if they choose (following some criteria that I forgot, but they'd have to show their mother's ID among other steps).

Once the child of a Cypriot mother obtains citizenship, they would then have to fill military obligations.

Rgds...

[Kristianikos]

heh thanks guys...

Well.. to be completly honest i am only 16 and even though i am not an adult yet, i do have my heart set on moving to cyprus in the future although not anytime soon (because of studes etc..).

I don't want to do the army service.. i just wanted to know ways on how to avoid it if i was to move over Because many of my family have avoided going by well.. simply not living in Cyprus !

ID.. ?

I guess i don't have any 'proper' ID, for one i'm not 18 and the UK does not have a national ID, if it helps.. i was born in athens but got my british citizenship because my mother has dual (british/cypriot) passport.

Thankyou for all the help.. i should have told you my age earlier.. sorry if i wasted any of your time