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Postby insan » Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:43 am

cannedmoose wrote:Good stuff insan. Teşekkürler arkadaşım (sorry if that's dodgy Turkish, I'm just learning)


You're wellcome my friend. Your Turkish sounds perfect. :D
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Postby cannedmoose » Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:49 am

insan wrote:
cannedmoose wrote:Good stuff insan. Teşekkürler arkadaşım (sorry if that's dodgy Turkish, I'm just learning)


You're wellcome my friend. Your Turkish sounds perfect. :D


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Postby turkcyp » Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:01 pm

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Postby brother » Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:05 pm

That is exactley what i have been saying but everyone was more concerned at argueing about the annan plan, and everytime someone objected to it being used (1960 constitution), i would ask why not? and they can never give an answer. thanks turkcyp for confirming my personal belief on that constitution.
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Postby brother » Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:25 pm

I see where you are coming from but the annan plan died at birth thanks to tassos and his crocodile tears at the referandum, even though some provisions of it could have been changed to make it better for both sides(i felt parts of it were a bad deal for tc too) like you said the gc administration or in short tassos did not want it to live and made sure it dies a painful death, so i think the 1960 constitution can work but with like you said a lot of goodwill from both sides.
As for the gc wanting to change it in the future, well they would be wise not to forget that today as they use the E.U to their advantage so will we in the future and anything that would be detremental to the tc would die and be buried quicker than the annan plan.
So in short this all boils down to if the elected leadewrs want to unite the island and then make the agreements they signed to work.
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Postby boulio » Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:38 pm

we also have to take into consideration the goodwill of the guranterors if there will be any in a new solution,not only the communities.
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Postby brother » Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:48 pm

Yes this guarantor business is no end of worry for me, as i see it if turkey joins the e.u then would they really be necessary as we would all be under the same umbrella, so here is an idea if we make a solution we keep the current guarantors as is, but when turkey joins the e.u the 3 guarantors will effectively be dismissed and then we come under the protection of the e.u, what do you think guys.
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Postby boulio » Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:52 pm

i think that it can work,however that the role and intervention must be specificaly defined and also it should be a time restaint as well for turkey joining the eu,10-15 years or turkey joining the eu whichever comes first.
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Postby brother » Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:00 pm

Yes i think we should amend it so it is not so easy for the 3 guarantors to intervene in our lives so easily everytime their political climate changes and as we both agree on turkey entering the e.u all guarantors become void or we put a 15-20 year maximum time limit or whichever comes first.
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