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Re: Expensive project

Postby iceman » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:41 pm

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denizaksulu wrote:..........and a waste of money. Better spent on the needy. :evil:


According to a report on this story in the Turkish Cypriot Vatan newspaper:

http://www.vatangazetesi.com/haberdetay ... berID=5734

the project is expected to cost "80 billion". I can only assume that this is in old Turkish lira, which equates to 80 million new Turkish lira. That is still a cool 26 million Cyprus pounds. Can this figure be right?
The Association states that it is going to start a campaign to collect this money.


No it's wrong. When they first got the idea (about 2 years ago??) they were still waiting for donations and as I have a very good memory I remember the cost was about 12 thousand CYP. So it seems they added some some, 000s to their numbers...

Now how on earth would it be possible for any group of people who form a union to use "public" property to erect their flags is beyond my comprehension. But I guess in a pseudo state built on free stolen GC land everything is possible.


Yes, millions of pounds does seem an awful lot for two flags.

Talking about a group of people forming a union and using public land, whilst trying to get some data about this new flag project I stumbled across the website of an organisation known as the "TRNC Pentadaktylos Mountain Flag Illumination Association":

http://www.kktcbayrak.org/

Health warning: A lot of people here might find the images on this site hard to stomach!


Tim,the figure cant be 80 Milyar YTL it must be a printing mistake....It probably is 80 Milyar in old currency which is 80 Bin YTL (approx £26650 CYP)
Still...hell of a lot of money to WASTE erecting flags on mountain tops!!!
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Re: Expensive project

Postby zan » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:47 pm

iceman wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:..........and a waste of money. Better spent on the needy. :evil:


According to a report on this story in the Turkish Cypriot Vatan newspaper:

http://www.vatangazetesi.com/haberdetay ... berID=5734

the project is expected to cost "80 billion". I can only assume that this is in old Turkish lira, which equates to 80 million new Turkish lira. That is still a cool 26 million Cyprus pounds. Can this figure be right?
The Association states that it is going to start a campaign to collect this money.


No it's wrong. When they first got the idea (about 2 years ago??) they were still waiting for donations and as I have a very good memory I remember the cost was about 12 thousand CYP. So it seems they added some some, 000s to their numbers...

Now how on earth would it be possible for any group of people who form a union to use "public" property to erect their flags is beyond my comprehension. But I guess in a pseudo state built on free stolen GC land everything is possible.


Yes, millions of pounds does seem an awful lot for two flags.

Talking about a group of people forming a union and using public land, whilst trying to get some data about this new flag project I stumbled across the website of an organisation known as the "TRNC Pentadaktylos Mountain Flag Illumination Association":

http://www.kktcbayrak.org/

Health warning: A lot of people here might find the images on this site hard to stomach!


Tim,the figure cant be 80 Milyar YTL it must be a printing mistake....It probably is 80 Milyar in old currency which is 80 Bin YTL (approx £26650 CYP)
Still...hell of a lot of money to WASTE erecting flags on mountain tops!!!


Thanks iceman..I was trying to do that myself...As you say still a waste of money but not as excitable as millions in sterling... :wink:
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:00 pm

Just looked at the pics on that site. The flag is illuminated at night with power coming from which power station?
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Postby phoenix » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:15 pm

zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
phoenix wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
phoenix wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
phoenix wrote:
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phoenix wrote:Can you see it from space . . . is it competing with the Great Wall of China?


Satellite photos can clearly see the painted flag. Several websites on the internet can show this.



..........and a waste of money. Better spent on the needy. :evil:


Good man, Deniz . . . what a pathetic claim to fame.

. . . . But what if it catches the eye of some passing alien ? :shock:

Cyprus will have yet another foreign invader!!!! :roll:



Dont get me wrong Phoenix. I love my flag but fluttering in the sky and not on the soil. Not for incitement and we need not be reminded as to what we are. We know.


Pray tell . . . what are you? Turks / Cypriots / other? :?



Pray tell me are you asking in the 'singular' or plural?


Both :D



Cypriot, Turkish speaking Cypriot
I can only talk for myself.


You know, that sounds okay with me! :D

However, Turkish should not be an "Official" language in the RoC in my opinion. Only Greek, then we can move on. Surely it makes sense . . . U.K. only has ONE official language and yet there are many people speaking a second language.



Crafty arent you. Turkish language is a lovely language. I know you hate everything Turkish - maybe rightly so. In your stilletos i would be the same. I see the Turkish Language as enriching the Cypriot peoples linguistic abilities and richness. Yes, I know you disagree. I love the Greek language as well, unfortunately some fascists decided to end the Greek studies in the secondary schools, so I feel deficient. The more languages the better. Now Phoenix behave. :lol:


NB: without Turkish you would not have had Lokoumi. :lol:


You know my weakness . . . but "a rose by any other name would still smell as sweet" . . . and Geroskipou Delights are the best in the World! :D

Deniz . . you know I have no objections to Turkish whatsoever . . . ALL I said was that in my opinion if we only had ONE OFFICIAL language we would minimise our problems. Undoubtedly and indisputably the one official language would be Greek . . .


Just one more reason to have two republics......


Yes Zan we have two . . . one is called Turkey and the other Cyprus ! . . . and they should remain separated by sea!
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EOKA leader screwed it up

Postby zan » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:21 pm

Yes Zan we have two . . . one is called Turkey and the other Cyprus ! . . . and they should remain separated by sea!

That 37% in between is called the TRNC/KKTC...You heard it here first.......Next time be more alert.......You almost had it with the Annan Plan but your elected leader screwed it up...Take it up with him :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: EOKA leader screwed it up

Postby phoenix » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:24 pm

zan wrote:Yes Zan we have two . . . one is called Turkey and the other Cyprus ! . . . and they should remain separated by sea!

That 37% in between is called the TRNC/KKTC...You heard it here first.......Next time be more alert.......You almost had it with the Annan Plan but your elected leader screwed it up...Take it up with him :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yes we nearly were "had" by the Annan plan . . . but we escaped and now we have to time to truly re-unite Cyprus for the Cypriots.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:36 pm

Tim,

Have a look here.
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=138528.
It seems I was not far off 12,500 CYP for each flag
But it seems they increased the dimensions.Before it was 36m high, now it is 50.
Before each flag was 92 m2 now 108 m2

This means each cloth will be 15X7m approximately. I doubt any GC in the FREE AREAS of the Republic will be able to see anything. Let aside the fact there is no cloth quality available in the market of this size, that will not tear up to pieces within a week from wind stress :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: EOKA leader screwed it up

Postby zan » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:44 pm

phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:Yes Zan we have two . . . one is called Turkey and the other Cyprus ! . . . and they should remain separated by sea!

That 37% in between is called the TRNC/KKTC...You heard it here first.......Next time be more alert.......You almost had it with the Annan Plan but your elected leader screwed it up...Take it up with him :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yes we nearly were "had" by the Annan plan . . . but we escaped and now we have to time to truly re-unite Cyprus for the Cypriots.

If the "RoC" is all you have to offer then don't hold your breath......Or rather do :wink: :lol:
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Re: EOKA leader screwed it up

Postby phoenix » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:47 pm

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:Yes Zan we have two . . . one is called Turkey and the other Cyprus ! . . . and they should remain separated by sea!

That 37% in between is called the TRNC/KKTC...You heard it here first.......Next time be more alert.......You almost had it with the Annan Plan but your elected leader screwed it up...Take it up with him :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yes we nearly were "had" by the Annan plan . . . but we escaped and now we have to time to truly re-unite Cyprus for the Cypriots.

If the "RoC" is all you have to offer then don't hold your breath......Or rather do :wink: :lol:


Well there are strings attached with that offer . . . such as open your arms to Democracy and Freedom, and abandon your Barbaric cousins! :D
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Re: EOKA leader screwed it up

Postby zan » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:15 pm

phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:Yes Zan we have two . . . one is called Turkey and the other Cyprus ! . . . and they should remain separated by sea!

That 37% in between is called the TRNC/KKTC...You heard it here first.......Next time be more alert.......You almost had it with the Annan Plan but your elected leader screwed it up...Take it up with him :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yes we nearly were "had" by the Annan plan . . . but we escaped and now we have to time to truly re-unite Cyprus for the Cypriots.

If the "RoC" is all you have to offer then don't hold your breath......Or rather do :wink: :lol:


Well there are strings attached with that offer . . . such as open your arms to Democracy and Freedom, and abandon your Barbaric cousins! :D


We already have with you so why ask...If you mean my Turkish Brothers then the choice is simple...See start of my post..... :arrow: :arrow:
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