They have reasons to favor Turkish positions in some subject’s like Russia and Iran and others. But this can’t be a general anti-Greek bullshit and they harm Turkey in many ways in the past and they made economy war on them on past times.
They do what is for their own interests to do. Yes, they harmed Turkey in many ways in the past and I am sure they will do in the future. This is exactly what I mean when I talk about waiting for a change in the balance of power.
After a war only a war can restore the 100% of the one side.
Not necessarily. Latvia has a 40% Russian minority and has been under a nuclear super power. Did Latvia win a direct war against USSR? This is just one example.
Furthermore, the war is going on since 1974, what we have now is a cease fire. Liberating our country with a military operation is our right, just not one we will use today. However you can not totally exclude the possibility for the future if the circumstances would allow it.
If you think what in the Anan plan that the whole Europe accepted were not predicted is because you are living in your own introvert democratic world. Liberation of Cyprus from foreign troops, this was going to achieved from the plan.
We were the ones asked if we would accept a plan for our own country, not anybody else. This is why the plan itself states clearly that we have every right to reject it. With Annan plan not only Cyprus would not be liberated, but that little state they allowed us to have would have been dissolved as well.
It was better for Cyprus and Cypriots, USA and Europe not for Turkey that was loosing a big geopolitical advantage that they have no reason any more to give away.
It was not better for the great majority of Cypriots. Today we rule about 60% of a
state with a voice in UN and EU. After the Annan plan we would not have a state. We would just have a tribe and our leader which would be unable to even fight for our rights since Turkey via the TC minority and their Settlers would be able to block anything they wished, and therefore all decisions would be taken by some foreign judges. Furthermore, we would have permanently signed away our lands and right to the Turks. We might not have that land and rights today either, but at least now we are able to keep the fight and possibly gain our land and rights at some time in the future.
Bullshits, it’s proved what with the TC’s you have the same blood and you were about to throw out the Turks and the Greeks and the second is your problem if you look deep enough.
The TCs are unfortunately used as an excuse by Turkey and UK in order to deny to Cypriots our self-determination. By giving to the TCs way more than what they deserve on our loss, they ensure that the TC minority will continue to collaborate with them, and will not accept democracy and human rights for all in Cyprus (since that would mean giving up the unfair gains they got on our loss from the colonialists as a gift for their collaboration)
You keep saying the bullshit about the balance of power and you can’t say a reasonable argument on what can change. And i can ensure you what in every case the balance of power could lead in the best scenario to a BBF that you have already sign many times. So only a war can change the circumstances and not unreasonable beliefs.
I can not predict the future. What I know though is that the balance of power does change. However I many times said different kind of scenarios that can change the balance of power in our favor.
But this is not a dilemma between having something good offered today, and instead choosing to wait for something better. What we have today is something bad, and what was offered was something even worst. So the choice between "bad" and "even worst" was an easy one.
Cypriots in the past 2000 years were not freer from what they are today and through the Anan plan could be freer than ever in the most evolved and most free environment ever.
The Cyprus problem is exactly that Cypriots were not allowed to be free, and this indeed goes on for centuries. However with the Annan plan we would be even less free than we are today.
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And if your opinion is a Greek Cyprus how you can achieve that?
My opinion is a free democratic Cyprus where all citizens will be equal without racist discriminations. How Greek or not Greek Cyprus is, is not something that will be written in the constitution, but something that will show naturally if Cypriots are allowed to live free on their own island without ethnic cleansings and destruction of our cultural and historical heritage in an effort to force Cyprus to be something different than what naturally is. In the same way I show respect to all cultures I demand others to respect mine.
Maybe you shouldn’t ask for a solution if you don’t like the idea of the BBF and maybe your president shouldn’t sign for.
We ask for a fair solution that will create a free democratic Cyprus. We have every right to ask and fight for this.
BBF is just a vague term without a real world example. By saying that we would accept as a compromise a "BBF" solution we didn't mean that we would accept just about anything labeled "BBF" and we didn't mean that we abandon our human and democratic rights. If you want I can describe you of a solution labeled as "BBF" that I would accept.
And why the fuck the Europeans did the mistake to put you in? You should stay in your pathetic introvert world. And you should start making unsafe sex because you will need to make many kids to manage the Turks with out the help of foreigners.
The Europeans have no problems with us and they made no mistake. In the EU each country is a separate entity and can do what it wants as long as it acts within the EU laws. Thats what we do.
About the "unsafe sex" part I predict that population numbers will become even more irrelevant in such conflicts soon. Beyond that I don't see why many foreigners can not help us. Our relationship with France got even closer the last few years for example. Just because some
very specific foreigners
currently favor Turkey, this doesn't mean that we do not have our own friends, which can easily increase in the future.
By my view on the subject enosis could be a solution but if they were let you by your self’s now Cyprus was going to be Turkish because you are unable to understand what is going on in the world.
We understand what is going on in the world. Everybody cares about its own interests, and we have to do the same.
They were trying to help you and if there was not the foreign factor now you wouldn’t even exist.
They were trying to help themselves only. What they wanted was huge bases in Cyprus and using their divide and rule practices they ensured that we would be busy fighting each other than bother with their presence.
No one love any other more than him self in politics. Greece exists because they wanted to harm Ottoman empire and in politics always you have to choose the bud from the worst, there is not a magic wand to make everything perfect because you prefect is some one else nightmare.
Greece exists because Greeks kept the dream of freedom alive during the 400 years of Ottoman rule until the balance of power changed, the Ottoman empire collapsed, and they fought for their liberation successfully.
And who will have the power? Iran? Russia? Maybe Jesus second arrival?
Not Turkey.
And if you are so stupid what was in your way to gain back the Greek Cyprus after the plan if Jesus would come to earth? Is there any difference that I can’t see? You want to make war? And why you voted to keep the 50 000 strongly armed forces while if you wanted to make a war you could do it after the plan with better chances?
You are the stupid one since you can not see that once the balance of power will change the fact that northern Cyprus will legally be part of RoC will mean a whole lot more than it means today. Restoring legality is way easier than invading a foreign country, which is what the northern part of our island would be if we had signed our lands to the Turks.
Your chances for freedom with out a war after the Anan plan rejection and after your president bullshits are worst than ever.
Our chances are as good (or bad) as they have always been. If we had accepted the Annan plan though, our chances would all but disappear.
