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Postby DANGAMAN » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:23 pm

If you were any animal or any living creature, what would it be and why :shocked:
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Postby DANGAMAN » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:25 pm

If I was an animal it would be a rabbit :D

Have you seen these guys at it!!! wicked.
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Postby devil » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:01 pm

I'd be Beardie, the luckiest dog in Christendom. He was abandoned at ~6 weeks, in ways only Cypriots can abandon dogs, after whipping him. He was a starved skeleton, covered with parasites, when he chose to adopt us. He is now a robust 4-year old 26 kg multipedigree dog who has a good meal, often home-cooked, every day, the occasional walk in the hills, a large garden to play in and chase cats and hedgehogs, a comfortable bed in the house and two loving parents who look after him like no other dog has been looked after.

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Postby devil » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:03 pm

DANGAMAN wrote:If I was an animal it would be a rabbit :D

Have you seen these guys at it!!! wicked.


If it were only for sex, a cock sparrow does better than rabbits.
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Postby phoenix » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:40 pm

devil wrote:I'd be Beardie, the luckiest dog in Christendom. He was abandoned at ~6 weeks, in ways only Cypriots can abandon dogs, after whipping him. He was a starved skeleton, covered with parasites, when he chose to adopt us. He is now a robust 4-year old 26 kg multipedigree dog who has a good meal, often home-cooked, every day, the occasional walk in the hills, a large garden to play in and chase cats and hedgehogs, a comfortable bed in the house and two loving parents who look after him like no other dog has been looked after.

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Devil, I have come to expect better from you, so am disappointed to see you being thoughtless. I'll put it down to emotions over reason and am very heartened that Beardie has found his rightful owners in your kind household.

We sometimes walk dogs at the local RSPCA home and I can assure you there are just as cruel, and proportionally as many people, in the U.K. as unfortunately are in Cyprus.

Such matters are just less visible here, because the perpetrators go to great lengths to avoid being shopped to the authorities. The RSPCA and other animal charities do a great job, and perhaps that is the only area where Cyprus could improve on . . . but since so many people have lost their homes to Turks, then perhaps understandably, that has been the last issue on peoples' minds.
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Postby devil » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:09 pm

phoenix wrote:Devil, I have come to expect better from you, so am disappointed to see you being thoughtless.


I do not accept your reproach. This animal had been beaten so badly that he still has emotional scars as well as physical ones. Some time ago, I was gardening and picked up a stick to train a plant. The dog ran away, yelping. He is also very racist; he is a very friendly dog and loves to greet most people (and other dogs), but he runs away from some Cypriot men, usually tall and not overweight in the ~30-50 age range. He has never run away from a man of any other nationality, nor from a woman. Presumably, he was beaten by a Cypriot man and he recognises the kind of man who did it.

I do not say that this does not happen elsewhere, it does but I've never seen so many mistreated, stray and feral dogs as I've seen here. Within a radius of about 100 m from here, I could take you to 4 dogs that have a dog's life, stuck permanently in small enclosures with not enough water in the summer, oil drums as the only shelter from the sun and rain (if only!).

I've discussed this with our vet (Cypriot) and he agrees with me.

And I do NOT thank you for unnecessarily introducing irrelevant racist politics into this thread.
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Postby phoenix » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:47 pm

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phoenix wrote:Devil, I have come to expect better from you, so am disappointed to see you being thoughtless.


I do not accept your reproach. This animal had been beaten so badly that he still has emotional scars as well as physical ones. Some time ago, I was gardening and picked up a stick to train a plant. The dog ran away, yelping. He is also very racist; he is a very friendly dog and loves to greet most people (and other dogs), but he runs away from some Cypriot men, usually tall and not overweight in the ~30-50 age range. He has never run away from a man of any other nationality, nor from a woman. Presumably, he was beaten by a Cypriot man and he recognises the kind of man who did it.

I do not say that this does not happen elsewhere, it does but I've never seen so many mistreated, stray and feral dogs as I've seen here. Within a radius of about 100 m from here, I could take you to 4 dogs that have a dog's life, stuck permanently in small enclosures with not enough water in the summer, oil drums as the only shelter from the sun and rain (if only!).

I've discussed this with our vet (Cypriot) and he agrees with me.

And I do NOT thank you for unnecessarily introducing irrelevant racist politics into this thread.


That is your choice. But if you re-read you will find that indeed you were the one to actually be racist by your aspersions towards Cypriots.

I only mentioned the word "Turk" . . . your imagination did the rest (subliminal racism?).

My Labrador has never been beaten up but still cowers away from large men. I am not minimising your dog's suffering; indeed, I abhor and am tormented by the cruelty inflicted by humans on animals.

But I stand by what I have experienced, and that is that there are just as cruel people in the UK but because of the vigilance of the RSPCA . . . those people are less public with their cruelty.
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Postby Niki » Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:49 pm

devil wrote:I'd be Beardie, the luckiest dog in Christendom. He was abandoned at ~6 weeks, in ways only Cypriots can abandon dogs, after whipping him. He was a starved skeleton, covered with parasites, when he chose to adopt us. He is now a robust 4-year old 26 kg multipedigree dog who has a good meal, often home-cooked, every day, the occasional walk in the hills, a large garden to play in and chase cats and hedgehogs, a comfortable bed in the house and two loving parents who look after him like no other dog has been looked after.

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Devil a wonderful story and well done after your fantastic job with this beautiful dog and I agree, Cypriot people in general do not look after their animals in the same way. He looks very much like my dog Charlie.

Phoenix shame on you for even trying to bring in political/cultural differences. I know about the UK and am qualified to dispute this but the difference in attitude towards animals is vast between Cypriot and British.

The problem Phoenix is that even if someone is doing a good thing you jump on the political aspect far too easily. This is about animals, not cultural differences. The 'Cypriot' connection was mentioned but LET IT GO! for the sake of a good deed.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:10 pm

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Postby phoenix » Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:25 pm

Niki wrote:
devil wrote:I'd be Beardie, the luckiest dog in Christendom. He was abandoned at ~6 weeks, in ways only Cypriots can abandon dogs, after whipping him. He was a starved skeleton, covered with parasites, when he chose to adopt us. He is now a robust 4-year old 26 kg multipedigree dog who has a good meal, often home-cooked, every day, the occasional walk in the hills, a large garden to play in and chase cats and hedgehogs, a comfortable bed in the house and two loving parents who look after him like no other dog has been looked after.

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Devil a wonderful story and well done after your fantastic job with this beautiful dog and I agree, Cypriot people in general do not look after their animals in the same way. He looks very much like my dog Charlie.

Phoenix shame on you for even trying to bring in political/cultural differences. I know about the UK and am qualified to dispute this but the difference in attitude towards animals is vast between Cypriot and British.

The problem Phoenix is that even if someone is doing a good thing you jump on the political aspect far too easily. This is about animals, not cultural differences. The 'Cypriot' connection was mentioned but LET IT GO! for the sake of a good deed.


Niki: You are way out of order to instruct me as to what I should or should not do. :evil:

On the contrary you have jumped into the middle of a debate between myself and devil.

And you contradict yourself also.

Your haste has meant you failed to notice, the enlarged point in devil's first post which was racist against Cypriots, and thoughtless and I am well within my rights Niki, if I decided to ameliorate it with my own experiences in the U.K.

Much as you may wish to deify the Brits for their animal welfare ... my experience puts them well in line with just about every other nation in the West.

And if my conclusion was that Cyprus has security issues to deal with, as perhaps being the reason animal charities have not had the popularity they have in the U.K. . . . then kindly discuss that if you disagree, but do not tell me how to operate!
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