LENA wrote:I bet they will "force" you to post again TC... If you wanted to stop you were not going to post it!
OK I will not look in here ever again!!!!!!!!!
It's just painful to watch these things unfold, knowing where it will finally lead to...
LENA wrote:I bet they will "force" you to post again TC... If you wanted to stop you were not going to post it!
Stephis told me to do everything possible and not to let anyone at home know that he was in pain. He asked me to take care of his grandchildren, (my boy and girl) and said to let them know that their grandfather was a brave man and had stood up to the animals that beat him. I told him to stop being an idiot and that we'd straighten this whole thing out.
Piratis wrote:T_C, I think what DT. said is enough:Stephis told me to do everything possible and not to let anyone at home know that he was in pain. He asked me to take care of his grandchildren, (my boy and girl) and said to let them know that their grandfather was a brave man and had stood up to the animals that beat him. I told him to stop being an idiot and that we'd straighten this whole thing out.
The man knew they were going to kill him. Unless you are going to tell me that his death was from "natural causes" and he simply predicted that his time had come.
They killed him, and "they" in this case is not just some psychopath individual, or bad policemen. It is obvious from the sequence of events that the order came from above, and above in this case is the Turkish army which rules the occupied areas. Instead of trying to diminish this event to a "police brutality" one, you should admit what is going on in occupied areas and in Turkey itself where the army rules and many decent people are murdered by it.
We are appalled that, since January 1992, thirteen journalists have been murdered in Turkey in what appear to be reprisals for having exercised their right to freedom of expression and information;
Bananiot wrote:The reason I got involved in this thread was the call by those that monopolise patriotism to the Greek Cypriots to stop visiting the north. These people were always against rapprochement and are always on the lookout to find or invent excuses to press home their point. Recently they started inventing sophistries in order to further their noble cause. They claim that only gamblers and night club visiting Greek Cypriots venture to the north. In this way they hope that anyone passing to the north will be associated with such low level activities and that people will be discouraged from going. On a personal level, Piratis (he is so good in this field) claimed that I only go across because I am protected by the Nazi regime, obviously because I am betraying my community. Thus, the picture now is clear. Only gamblers, lust-seeking individuals and traitors still go to the north. If one needs to visit, there must be a very important reason to do so, we are told.
I have one question. If I miss the company of my friend Halil and want to go across to have a coffee with him, is this an important reason to do so? To whom shal I apply to in order to get permission and furthermore a certificate that would clearly state that I did not visit a casino or a whore house?
T_C wrote:Oh please Piratis. If they had murdered him like you say they did then it would of had a more significant coverage in the press. The fact the GREEK Cypriot coroner stated that his injuries were NOT related to his death says it all. While it's disgusting and shameful I don't know where you're pulling these "murderer" accusations from?
DT. wrote:I am not going to get into a slagging match about this nor do i have a need to proove anything of how this man died. I will give a few corrections to some people though.
Someone said the cause of death was not the beatings. Thats right, I stated that the autopsy found the cause of death to be a heart attack. The questions that no one could answer for us however are simple.
Why was he in a coma if he did not suffer a septic shock?
Why was sedated if he had not suffered from pneumonia either?
Why did they not let him come to the south for treatment?
Why were nearly all his ribs broken?
A good friend of mine from this forum was in that hospital with me and my family when they were telling us that he had suffered all these things. He had translated the exact things to us from the director general of the hospital. The autopsy showed that everything the director general was told by the prison doctor was also a lie.
Personally I don't give a shit about who else died where right now. I want to find out why this happened.
The family is looking into legal action, however in my opinion the true culprit here is the government of the Republic of Cyprus. Why allow your citizens to go somewhere where you cannot protect them.
Where there are no agreements of exchange of health suffering prisoners, were there are no requirements to charge someone for a crime for 3 months!! This man was not charged for a crime and yet he was prepped to stay in there because the "trnc" could not control its own "borders".
For those that think my priority right now is to score a few political points against the north then you're very much mistaken. My problem is that the Cyprus problem landed on my wife's family for a little while and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
I know someone killed him in there, I saw him when he was half done. WIll anyone ever get caught? No.
Still, life goes on, and Stephis will be forgotten soon, the papers will go away, Antenna will stop asking for interviews and this thread will sink deeper into the archives. We can all go back to discussing how we are all Cypriots and how much we love each other.
I for one, am angry and confused. Mostly confused.
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