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Postby T_C » Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:45 am

LENA wrote:I bet they will "force" you to post again TC...:( If you wanted to stop you were not going to post it!


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OK I will not look in here ever again!!!!!!!!!

It's just painful to watch these things unfold, knowing where it will finally lead to... :evil:
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Postby zan » Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:45 am

Oranos:

What did you say about being monitored.....Where there's a will..there's a way!!!


‘Arrested after denouncing police abuse’
By Alexia Saoulli
(archive article - Sunday, September 3, 2006)
A 32-YEAR-old former police collaborator turned whistleblower faces deportation after he was arrested last week on charges of being an illegal immigrant.

Jan Hazrat’s arrest follows his refusal to continue carrying out officers’ dirty work and after he filed charges of police corruption and brutality, which are still pending.

He claims he was employed by police for four years, saying he undertook jobs that ranged from extorting money from asylum seekers to helping to smuggle them into the Republic and involvement in beatings.

According to immigrant support group KISA, Hazrat first came to Cyprus in 2000 on a fake Pakistani passport. Due to family reasons, he left the country only to return on his genuine Afghan passport in 2001, when he requested political asylum.

“From 2001 to 2005, while he was a political asylum applicant, he was a police collaborator for the asylum and immigration police, Paphos Gate police, and the [Interior Ministry’s] asylum service,” KISA president Doros Polycarpou told the Sunday Mail.

However, Hazrat’s his duties did not just include acting as a translator and fingering illegal immigrants.

Instead, he alleges he was used to collect ‘service fees’ from other asylum seekers, which were then paid to police, participated in and was witness to police beatings of other immigrants, helped smuggle political asylum applicants from the north through Pyla, and was involved in a ring that squandered public funds from the social welfare services, including taking a cut from immigrants’ welfare cheques.

Only the social welfare services scam was investigated in 2004, but the case was closed after the prime suspect left the country and Hazrat was cleared of any involvement, Polycarpou said.

He added that Hazrat was able to name his collaborators, some of whom were high ranking officers in the force, and that his incarceration put his life at risk.

“He also knows that his accusations incriminate him, but he says he had no choice but to go along with what they wanted because they threatened not to extend his residency permit if he didn’t,” Polycarpou said.

In 2002, pending the examination of his asylum application, the 32-year-old Afghan met and married a Cypriot woman, who also held British nationality.

Two years later, he was arrested with three other immigrants by the same officers he collaborated with. Hazrat claims he had been approached by the three at the local mosque and that they had simply requested that he help find them a place to stay before they applied for asylum the following day.

“Perhaps the police thought he was helping people behind their back without giving them the necessary fee because he was either keeping it for himself or not charging them. Either way, he was arrested and beaten.”

Polycarpou said a doctor verified the Afghan’s injuries and KISA filed a complaint with the Attorney-general, calling for an independent criminal investigation.

“Instead of an independent investigation, the matter was investigated internally by police and in August they concluded that there appeared to have been no mistreatment involved in his handling,” he said.

In May 2005, Hazrat returned to KISA with the complaint that police had refused to renew his residency permit since August 2003. He said police would only do it if he agreed to continue being their collaborator, a request he turned down.

“After the beating he received, he didn’t want to have anything more to do with all that. He just wanted to get on with his life normally,” he said.

Soon after, his political asylum application was rejected.

Nevertheless as the husband of a Cypriot and EU national, KISA secured him a temporary residency visa, which when it expired, was renewed until February 2006. He also started the process of applying for naturalisation.

“During that time, he also filed a complaint against police regarding their failure to renew his temporary residency permit with the civil registry and migration department head, Anni Shakali. In February he also asked her to renew his application.”

Until last week, that application was still pending, Polycarpou said.

“Since February, he has been going to the civil registry and migration department at least twice a week to see what the delay is in extending his visa and not once have they told him he’s an illegal immigrant.”

Last Thursday, however, when he went to Nicosia’s CID offices to report a car theft, he was arrested with an outstanding arrest warrant dated October 2004 on charges of being an illegal immigrant.

Polycarpou said: “How could he have been wanted by police when he’s been going to the migration department twice a week for the past six months and is not in hiding? How come his temporary residency visa was extended twice in 2005? How was he allowed to return to Afghanistan in June 2005 and re-enter the country a month later? How come he
was issued a clean record by police in May 2005 when he applied for naturalisation?”

The human rights activist said when he put these questions to police, they admitted there must have been sort of mistake and that Hazrat would be held for 24 hours to investigate and in all likelihood be released.

“No charges were filed and then at 5pm on Friday Mrs Shakali issued an order for his deportation on the grounds that he’s an illegal immigrant.”

Polycarpou said it was only after the organisation’s intervention that the deportation order was put on hold until tomorrow.

“How can he be deported when he has received no answer on his naturalisation application? No answer on his temporary residency permit as a Cypriot and EU national’s husband? No answer regarding his police corruption claims? No answer regarding his complaint about the beating he received from police?”

Polycarpou said authorities had agreed to hold Hazrat until Monday to determine what findings the Attorney-general had made regarding his claims. He also pointed out Hazrat should have been denied temporary residency sooner if that was what Shakali had planned to do, so that the Afghan could have appealed the decision in court as was his legal right.

KISA suspect Hazrat is being punished for trying to extricate himself from the situation he got himself involved in and that it was no coincidence his asylum application was denied the same year he refused to continue working for police.

“We want an independent criminal investigator appointed to investigate the corruption and abuse charges against police. These are serious accusations and it’s not good enough having the police investigate it internally. They were willing to cover up the beating of two Cypriot boys, which only came out because of a videotape, so imagine how much more they’d cover up the beating of an immigrant.”

Polycarpou was referring to the December battering of two 27-year-old students by police. The incident was initially covered up until a secret video recording of the incident was leaked to the press. Eleven of the officers involved are now due to stand trial on charges ranging from torture to common assault.




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Postby Piratis » Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:57 am

T_C, I think what DT. said is enough:

Stephis told me to do everything possible and not to let anyone at home know that he was in pain. He asked me to take care of his grandchildren, (my boy and girl) and said to let them know that their grandfather was a brave man and had stood up to the animals that beat him. I told him to stop being an idiot and that we'd straighten this whole thing out.


The man knew they were going to kill him. Unless you are going to tell me that his death was from "natural causes" and he simply predicted that his time had come.

They killed him, and "they" in this case is not just some psychopath individual, or bad policemen. It is obvious from the sequence of events that the order came from above, and above in this case is the Turkish army which rules the occupied areas. Instead of trying to diminish this event to a "police brutality" one, you should admit what is going on in occupied areas and in Turkey itself where the army rules and many decent people are murdered by it.
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Postby zan » Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:08 am

Piratis wrote:T_C, I think what DT. said is enough:

Stephis told me to do everything possible and not to let anyone at home know that he was in pain. He asked me to take care of his grandchildren, (my boy and girl) and said to let them know that their grandfather was a brave man and had stood up to the animals that beat him. I told him to stop being an idiot and that we'd straighten this whole thing out.


The man knew they were going to kill him. Unless you are going to tell me that his death was from "natural causes" and he simply predicted that his time had come.

They killed him, and "they" in this case is not just some psychopath individual, or bad policemen. It is obvious from the sequence of events that the order came from above, and above in this case is the Turkish army which rules the occupied areas. Instead of trying to diminish this event to a "police brutality" one, you should admit what is going on in occupied areas and in Turkey itself where the army rules and many decent people are murdered by it.


You are speculating with a truck load of bullshit mate so unless you have some evidence shut the fuck up........You are just trying to lose the posts I have made.... No chance!


‘Arrested after denouncing police abuse’
By Alexia Saoulli
(archive article - Sunday, September 3, 2006)
A 32-YEAR-old former police collaborator turned whistleblower faces deportation after he was arrested last week on charges of being an illegal immigrant.

Jan Hazrat’s arrest follows his refusal to continue carrying out officers’ dirty work and after he filed charges of police corruption and brutality, which are still pending.

He claims he was employed by police for four years, saying he undertook jobs that ranged from extorting money from asylum seekers to helping to smuggle them into the Republic and involvement in beatings.

According to immigrant support group KISA, Hazrat first came to Cyprus in 2000 on a fake Pakistani passport. Due to family reasons, he left the country only to return on his genuine Afghan passport in 2001, when he requested political asylum.

“From 2001 to 2005, while he was a political asylum applicant, he was a police collaborator for the asylum and immigration police, Paphos Gate police, and the [Interior Ministry’s] asylum service,” KISA president Doros Polycarpou told the Sunday Mail.

However, Hazrat’s his duties did not just include acting as a translator and fingering illegal immigrants.

Instead, he alleges he was used to collect ‘service fees’ from other asylum seekers, which were then paid to police, participated in and was witness to police beatings of other immigrants, helped smuggle political asylum applicants from the north through Pyla, and was involved in a ring that squandered public funds from the social welfare services, including taking a cut from immigrants’ welfare cheques.

Only the social welfare services scam was investigated in 2004, but the case was closed after the prime suspect left the country and Hazrat was cleared of any involvement, Polycarpou said.

He added that Hazrat was able to name his collaborators, some of whom were high ranking officers in the force, and that his incarceration put his life at risk.

“He also knows that his accusations incriminate him, but he says he had no choice but to go along with what they wanted because they threatened not to extend his residency permit if he didn’t,” Polycarpou said.

In 2002, pending the examination of his asylum application, the 32-year-old Afghan met and married a Cypriot woman, who also held British nationality.

Two years later, he was arrested with three other immigrants by the same officers he collaborated with. Hazrat claims he had been approached by the three at the local mosque and that they had simply requested that he help find them a place to stay before they applied for asylum the following day.

“Perhaps the police thought he was helping people behind their back without giving them the necessary fee because he was either keeping it for himself or not charging them. Either way, he was arrested and beaten.”

Polycarpou said a doctor verified the Afghan’s injuries and KISA filed a complaint with the Attorney-general, calling for an independent criminal investigation.

“Instead of an independent investigation, the matter was investigated internally by police and in August they concluded that there appeared to have been no mistreatment involved in his handling,” he said.

In May 2005, Hazrat returned to KISA with the complaint that police had refused to renew his residency permit since August 2003. He said police would only do it if he agreed to continue being their collaborator, a request he turned down.

“After the beating he received, he didn’t want to have anything more to do with all that. He just wanted to get on with his life normally,” he said.

Soon after, his political asylum application was rejected.

Nevertheless as the husband of a Cypriot and EU national, KISA secured him a temporary residency visa, which when it expired, was renewed until February 2006. He also started the process of applying for naturalisation.

“During that time, he also filed a complaint against police regarding their failure to renew his temporary residency permit with the civil registry and migration department head, Anni Shakali. In February he also asked her to renew his application.”

Until last week, that application was still pending, Polycarpou said.

“Since February, he has been going to the civil registry and migration department at least twice a week to see what the delay is in extending his visa and not once have they told him he’s an illegal immigrant.”

Last Thursday, however, when he went to Nicosia’s CID offices to report a car theft, he was arrested with an outstanding arrest warrant dated October 2004 on charges of being an illegal immigrant.

Polycarpou said: “How could he have been wanted by police when he’s been going to the migration department twice a week for the past six months and is not in hiding? How come his temporary residency visa was extended twice in 2005? How was he allowed to return to Afghanistan in June 2005 and re-enter the country a month later? How come he
was issued a clean record by police in May 2005 when he applied for naturalisation?”

The human rights activist said when he put these questions to police, they admitted there must have been sort of mistake and that Hazrat would be held for 24 hours to investigate and in all likelihood be released.

“No charges were filed and then at 5pm on Friday Mrs Shakali issued an order for his deportation on the grounds that he’s an illegal immigrant.”

Polycarpou said it was only after the organisation’s intervention that the deportation order was put on hold until tomorrow.

“How can he be deported when he has received no answer on his naturalisation application? No answer on his temporary residency permit as a Cypriot and EU national’s husband? No answer regarding his police corruption claims? No answer regarding his complaint about the beating he received from police?”

Polycarpou said authorities had agreed to hold Hazrat until Monday to determine what findings the Attorney-general had made regarding his claims. He also pointed out Hazrat should have been denied temporary residency sooner if that was what Shakali had planned to do, so that the Afghan could have appealed the decision in court as was his legal right.

KISA suspect Hazrat is being punished for trying to extricate himself from the situation he got himself involved in and that it was no coincidence his asylum application was denied the same year he refused to continue working for police.

“We want an independent criminal investigator appointed to investigate the corruption and abuse charges against police. These are serious accusations and it’s not good enough having the police investigate it internally. They were willing to cover up the beating of two Cypriot boys, which only came out because of a videotape, so imagine how much more they’d cover up the beating of an immigrant.”

Polycarpou was referring to the December battering of two 27-year-old students by police. The incident was initially covered up until a secret video recording of the incident was leaked to the press. Eleven of the officers involved are now due to stand trial on charges ranging from torture to common assault.




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Postby Piratis » Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:20 am

Zan, once again you are trying to change the subject by copy/paste.

This is not case of "police brutality" here we are talking about a decent man being murdered by the directions of those that govern the occupied part of Cyprus, the Turkish army.

If you want to copy paste similar events here is one:

We are appalled that, since January 1992, thirteen journalists have been murdered in Turkey in what appear to be reprisals for having exercised their right to freedom of expression and information;


And you know what is the funny thing about this? The above was written in 1993!! So when it refers to "since January 1992" it talks about just a year!!

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2567

I think you are smart enough to do a quick search online to find out about the many 100s of politically motivated murders committed by the Nazi state of Turkey, and stop trying to diminish this event to a "police brutality" one.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:33 am

The reason I got involved in this thread was the call by those that monopolise patriotism to the Greek Cypriots to stop visiting the north. These people were always against rapprochement and are always on the lookout to find or invent excuses to press home their point. Recently they started inventing sophistries in order to further their noble cause. They claim that only gamblers and night club visiting Greek Cypriots venture to the north. In this way they hope that anyone passing to the north will be associated with such low level activities and that people will be discouraged from going. On a personal level, Piratis (he is so good in this field) claimed that I only go across because I am protected by the Nazi regime, obviously because I am betraying my community. Thus, the picture now is clear. Only gamblers, lust-seeking individuals and traitors still go to the north. If one needs to visit, there must be a very important reason to do so, we are told.

I have one question. If I miss the company of my friend Halil and want to go across to have a coffee with him, is this an important reason to do so? To whom shal I apply to in order to get permission and furthermore a certificate that would clearly state that I did not visit a casino or a whore house?
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Postby zan » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:26 am

Bananiot wrote:The reason I got involved in this thread was the call by those that monopolise patriotism to the Greek Cypriots to stop visiting the north. These people were always against rapprochement and are always on the lookout to find or invent excuses to press home their point. Recently they started inventing sophistries in order to further their noble cause. They claim that only gamblers and night club visiting Greek Cypriots venture to the north. In this way they hope that anyone passing to the north will be associated with such low level activities and that people will be discouraged from going. On a personal level, Piratis (he is so good in this field) claimed that I only go across because I am protected by the Nazi regime, obviously because I am betraying my community. Thus, the picture now is clear. Only gamblers, lust-seeking individuals and traitors still go to the north. If one needs to visit, there must be a very important reason to do so, we are told.

I have one question. If I miss the company of my friend Halil and want to go across to have a coffee with him, is this an important reason to do so? To whom shal I apply to in order to get permission and furthermore a certificate that would clearly state that I did not visit a casino or a whore house?


Bananiot, I always look for a reason as to why things happen and why people do what they do. Piratis and the others have a reason as instructed by their boss Tpap. http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:58 am

T_C wrote:Oh please Piratis. If they had murdered him like you say they did then it would of had a more significant coverage in the press. The fact the GREEK Cypriot coroner stated that his injuries were NOT related to his death says it all. While it's disgusting and shameful I don't know where you're pulling these "murderer" accusations from?


What all coroners said was the cause of death was heart attack. This DOES NOT mean the injuries do not relate to his death. If he had no broken ribs due to beating, he would not catch pneumonia and al the other deceases DT described in his first post, which finally caused the heart attack.

Btw do you know that most people who fall from high altitude die from heart attack before reaching the ground?
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Postby DT. » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:16 am

I am not going to get into a slagging match about this nor do i have a need to proove anything of how this man died. I will give a few corrections to some people though.

Someone said the cause of death was not the beatings. Thats right, I stated that the autopsy found the cause of death to be a heart attack. The questions that no one could answer for us however are simple.

Why was he in a coma if he did not suffer a septic shock?
Why was sedated if he had not suffered from pneumonia either?
Why did they not let him come to the south for treatment?
Why were nearly all his ribs broken?

A good friend of mine from this forum was in that hospital with me and my family when they were telling us that he had suffered all these things. He had translated the exact things to us from the director general of the hospital. The autopsy showed that everything the director general was told by the prison doctor was also a lie.

Personally I don't give a shit about who else died where right now. I want to find out why this happened.

The family is looking into legal action, however in my opinion the true culprit here is the government of the Republic of Cyprus. Why allow your citizens to go somewhere where you cannot protect them.

Where there are no agreements of exchange of health suffering prisoners, were there are no requirements to charge someone for a crime for 3 months!! This man was not charged for a crime and yet he was prepped to stay in there because the "trnc" could not control its own "borders".

For those that think my priority right now is to score a few political points against the north then you're very much mistaken. My problem is that the Cyprus problem landed on my wife's family for a little while and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

I know someone killed him in there, I saw him when he was half done. WIll anyone ever get caught? No.

Still, life goes on, and Stephis will be forgotten soon, the papers will go away, Antenna will stop asking for interviews and this thread will sink deeper into the archives. We can all go back to discussing how we are all Cypriots and how much we love each other.

I for one, am angry and confused. Mostly confused.
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Postby zan » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:07 am

DT. wrote:I am not going to get into a slagging match about this nor do i have a need to proove anything of how this man died. I will give a few corrections to some people though.

Someone said the cause of death was not the beatings. Thats right, I stated that the autopsy found the cause of death to be a heart attack. The questions that no one could answer for us however are simple.

Why was he in a coma if he did not suffer a septic shock?
Why was sedated if he had not suffered from pneumonia either?
Why did they not let him come to the south for treatment?
Why were nearly all his ribs broken?

A good friend of mine from this forum was in that hospital with me and my family when they were telling us that he had suffered all these things. He had translated the exact things to us from the director general of the hospital. The autopsy showed that everything the director general was told by the prison doctor was also a lie.

Personally I don't give a shit about who else died where right now. I want to find out why this happened.

The family is looking into legal action, however in my opinion the true culprit here is the government of the Republic of Cyprus. Why allow your citizens to go somewhere where you cannot protect them.

Where there are no agreements of exchange of health suffering prisoners, were there are no requirements to charge someone for a crime for 3 months!! This man was not charged for a crime and yet he was prepped to stay in there because the "trnc" could not control its own "borders".

For those that think my priority right now is to score a few political points against the north then you're very much mistaken. My problem is that the Cyprus problem landed on my wife's family for a little while and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

I know someone killed him in there, I saw him when he was half done. WIll anyone ever get caught? No.

Still, life goes on, and Stephis will be forgotten soon, the papers will go away, Antenna will stop asking for interviews and this thread will sink deeper into the archives. We can all go back to discussing how we are all Cypriots and how much we love each other.

I for one, am angry and confused. Mostly confused.


I hope all his family find some peace DT and as you said this is the Cyprus problem.....
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