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[zan]

Sorry DT but this has got to be balanced. The GC propaganda machine has taken over...I can find more like this if needed.


BRUTALITY OF THE GREEK CYPRIOT POLICE

Twenty-six Turkish Cypriots, who crossed the border to South Cyprus with the hope of finding work and better economic conditions, were brutally beaten up by the Greek Cypriot police.
The Turkish Cypriot group, which were arrested in Limassol by the Greek Cypriot police crossed the border into the South Cyprus from the Famagusta region of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus on February 19.

After the original questioning, the 26 Turkish Cypriots, which had little children and women amongst them, were taken to a mountainous are and were brutally beaten up by the Greek Cypriot police.

After the brutal treatment, on the night of February 20, Turkish Cypriots were put on a coach and were taken to the UN controlled buffer zone near Zumrut Koy in north-western region of Cyprus.

Turkish Cypriots who crossed the border back into the TRNC were taken to a local hospital by the Turkish Cypriot police for treatment. Out of the group the two brothers, Ahmet and Aziz Topalogullari and a blind boy aged 12 were kept in hospital for observations due to their severe injures.

Ahmet Topalogullari had a broken rib and his brother Aziz Topalogullari was suffering from a broken nose and injuries to his head.

Talking to the journalist about their horrific treatment at the hands of the Greek Cypriot police members of the group said, "when we crossed the border we met a Greek Cypriot police officer named Kosti. He arranged for us to be taken to Limassol police station in Land Rovers. While we were there, he told us he received orders that we should be taken to another police station. They put us back into the Land Rovers but instead of taking us to another police station, we were taken to a mountainous area, where there were about 16 police officers wearing ski masks waiting for us."

Explaining how badly the Greek Cypriot police beat them up, they said "our tiny children were pushed into the mud, they pulled the hair of our wives and dragged them along the ground, pointing their guns on them they made them sing. They kept firing in the air and pointing their guns on us threatening to shoot us."

Saying that they narrowly escaped death at the hands of the Greek Cypriot police, they swore never to make the same mistake of believing that they could find a better life in South Cyprus and advised the young people, who have no jobs due to the bad economy caused by the ongoing embargoes on the TRNC, not to make the same mistake.

Although the Greek Cypriot regime denied all knowledge of the brutal incident, the Greek Cypriot police are well known for its treatment of the Turkish Cypriots. Few years ago a group of 22 Turkish Cypriots who declared that they wanted to live in South Cyprus were forced at gunpoint to go to the TRNC through a minefield.

Also the case of Erkan Egmez, the Turkish Cypriot who received compensation from the Greek Cypriot regime by the decision of the European Court of Human Rights for his horrific injuries at the hands of the Greek Cypriot police, is a further evidence to the brutality of the Greek Cypriot police towards the Turkish Cypriots. To see the evidence of the torture on Erkan Egmez visit the content page of our web site. (http://www.tcn-cy.freeuk.com/content.htm)

The irony of this horrific incident is that the Turkish Cypriots, who crossed to the South Cyprus, ethnically are not Turkish. They are gypsies whose ancestors settled in Cyprus long time ago. During the sixties and seventies, just like the Turkish Cypriots, they too were attacked by the Greek Cypriots. Because of the ill treatment they received at the hands of the Greek Cypriots, they always felt safer living with the Turkish Cypriots. Due to the economic problems many of these people emigrated to the UK and just like the group in the incident, some of them went to south Cyprus for a better economic life. We dread to think what would the Greek Cypriot police do if the group were ethnically Turkish Cypriots.


The actual guilty party for the horrific treatment of these people are the European politicians, who allows the continuation of the inhuman embargoes on the TRNC, creating economic difficulty for the Turkish Cypriots, causing them to seek better economic life in South Cyprus facing harsh treatment and torture at the hands of the brutal Greek Cypriot police.

[Antreis]

Sorry Zan , but the story of yours is totally untrue.If such incident had occurred everybody would have known.
The Cyprus police are not saints but at least they do not use such methods on innocent people.

P.S Police officers wearing ski masks ?

[zan]

Sorry Zan , but the story of yours is totally untrue.If such incident had occurred everybody would have known.
The Cyprus police are not saints but at least they do not use such methods on innocent people.

P.S Police officers wearing ski masks ?

Just saying it isn't true doesn't mean it is not.....

Try this one:

http://www.tcn-cy.freeuk.com/tekogul.htm

[Antreis]

Sorry Zan , but the story of yours is totally untrue.If such incident had occurred everybody would have known.
The Cyprus police are not saints but at least they do not use such methods on innocent people.

P.S Police officers wearing ski masks ?

Just saying it isn't true doesn't mean it is not.....

Try this one:

http://www.tcn-cy.freeuk.com/tekogul.htm

Your remark "Just saying it isn't true doesn't mean it is not....." might be logical . However the source you are using does not look reliable judging from the title " Illegal Greek Cypriot Court....".
There is NOT such an institution in the Republic of Cyprus nor in any other place i know !!!
So why should i read something and take it seriously when they begin with a myth. I rather read the Star Trek chronicles instead.

[T_C]

Well maybe this is more reliable for you!


The European Court of Human Rights has condemned Cyprus for the inhumane treatment of a group of nine Turkish Cypriots who were expelled from the south of the island in 1994.
The seven judges at the Strasbourg court said the victims, who said they were seeking work in the Greek Cypriot area, suffered brutality of varying degrees after being arrested.

European Court ruling
The Court of Human Rights ruled that police officers had mistreated the group, and told them they would be killed if they returned.
The ruling is the first time that the Strasbourg court has upheld complaints by Turkish Cypriots of police brutality in the southern half of the island.
Two weeks ago, the same court found that Turkey had committed widespread human rights abuses following its invasion of northern Cyprus in 1974.
In delivering its verdict, the court ruled that the Greek Cypriot police had intentionally subjected the group to "ill-treatment of varying degrees of intensity".

Forced statements
The court found that the applicants had been forced to sign statements saying they were returning to the northern part of Cyprus of their own free will.
In a unanimous ruling, the judges said that while the brutality did not constitute torture, it was serious enough to be considered inhuman behaviour.
The court was unable to clear up who was responsible for the killing of a 24-year-old Turkish Cypriot who was allegedly shot when he returned to the Greek Cypriot side after having been expelled.
The Cyprus Government has said the incidents happened at a time of tension in the southern part of the island following two bomb attacks on mosques in the capital, Nicosia.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1347294.stm

[zan]

Sorry Zan , but the story of yours is totally untrue.If such incident had occurred everybody would have known.
The Cyprus police are not saints but at least they do not use such methods on innocent people.

P.S Police officers wearing ski masks ?

Just saying it isn't true doesn't mean it is not.....

Try this one:

http://www.tcn-cy.freeuk.com/tekogul.htm

Your remark "Just saying it isn't true doesn't mean it is not....." might be logical . However the source you are using does not look reliable judging from the title " Illegal Greek Cypriot Court....".
There is NOT such an institution in the Republic of Cyprus nor in any other place i know !!!
So why should i read something and take it seriously when they begin with a myth. I rather read the Star Trek chronicles instead.

I have given you the benefit of the doubt as to your ability in picking out what is offensive and what is true so if a possible spelling mistake means that you are pedantic enough not to read an article in full then I was wrong to do so. (The spelling mistake was an example and not the reason you gave...Before you pull me up on that). There are many examples of beatings and detainment's in the south that are not normal procedure in the south so this one sided lambasting is wrong. We all know the small island mentality that exists in Cyprus, north and south and taking DTs word on what happened and the emotive language used by others as well is up for questioning as well yet you choose to believe that but not these...WHY!!

[zan]

:roll:

Well maybe this is more reliable for you!


The European Court of Human Rights has condemned Cyprus for the inhumane treatment of a group of nine Turkish Cypriots who were expelled from the south of the island in 1994.
The seven judges at the Strasbourg court said the victims, who said they were seeking work in the Greek Cypriot area, suffered brutality of varying degrees after being arrested.

European Court ruling
The Court of Human Rights ruled that police officers had mistreated the group, and told them they would be killed if they returned.
The ruling is the first time that the Strasbourg court has upheld complaints by Turkish Cypriots of police brutality in the southern half of the island.
Two weeks ago, the same court found that Turkey had committed widespread human rights abuses following its invasion of northern Cyprus in 1974.
In delivering its verdict, the court ruled that the Greek Cypriot police had intentionally subjected the group to "ill-treatment of varying degrees of intensity".

Forced statements
The court found that the applicants had been forced to sign statements saying they were returning to the northern part of Cyprus of their own free will.
In a unanimous ruling, the judges said that while the brutality did not constitute torture, it was serious enough to be considered inhuman behaviour.
The court was unable to clear up who was responsible for the killing of a 24-year-old Turkish Cypriot who was allegedly shot when he returned to the Greek Cypriot side after having been expelled.
The Cyprus Government has said the incidents happened at a time of tension in the southern part of the island following two bomb attacks on mosques in the capital, Nicosia.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1347294.stm

Thanks T_C.

AND:

iv Agence France Presse December 22, 2000, Friday
Copyright 2000 Agence France Presse
Agence France Presse
December 22, 2000, Friday
SECTION: International news
LENGTH: 220 words
HEADLINE: Cyprus says it will pay EU human rights fine to Turkish Cypriot
DATELINE: NICOSIA, Dec 22
BODY:
Cyprus said Friday it will pay 10,400 British pounds (15,370 dollars) ordered by the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) for the mistreatment of a Turkish Cypriot drug suspect.

"The government always abides by the decisions of international bodies," Government spokesman Michalis Papapetrou told reporters Friday. Attorney-general Alecos Markides said there would be "full compliance" but stressed the European court's penalty was much less than the 600,000 pounds (889,139 dollars) demanded in compensation.

Erkan Emes, 33, was badly beaten when arrested for allegedly possessing two kilos of hashish (4.4 pounds) during a Greek Cypriot police sting operation in October 1995. After a failed escape bid, Egmez was hit on the head with a gun by members of a Cypriot anti-drug unit, near the buffer zone separating the north and south of the disputed island.

The police case against him was thrown out by the attorney-general who ordered his release in December 1995. Emes filed a complaint with the EHCR shortly afterwards .

In an independent inquiry, the Cypriot ombudsman criticised the police action as "brutal and inhumane". Most of Emes' time in custody was spent in the hospital.

It is believed to be the first time that Cyprus has been fined by the ECHR on ill treatment charges.


I am sure that the South has become more humane since then

[LENA]

The death of a person became a competition of articles and statements for the crown of the worst Police force in Cyprus!

[zan]

The death of a person became a competition of articles and statements for the crown of the worst Police force in Cyprus!

Perhaps now all this political point scoring can stop.......

[Antreis]

Sorry Zan , but the story of yours is totally untrue.If such incident had occurred everybody would have known.
The Cyprus police are not saints but at least they do not use such methods on innocent people.

P.S Police officers wearing ski masks ?

Just saying it isn't true doesn't mean it is not.....

Try this one:

http://www.tcn-cy.freeuk.com/tekogul.htm

Your remark "Just saying it isn't true doesn't mean it is not....." might be logical . However the source you are using does not look reliable judging from the title " Illegal Greek Cypriot Court....".
There is NOT such an institution in the Republic of Cyprus nor in any other place i know !!!
So why should i read something and take it seriously when they begin with a myth. I rather read the Star Trek chronicles instead.

I have given you the benefit of the doubt as to your ability in picking out what is offensive and what is true so if a possible spelling mistake means that you are pedantic enough not to read an article in full then I was wrong to do so. (The spelling mistake was an example and not the reason you gave...Before you pull me up on that). There are many examples of beatings and detainment's in the south that are not normal procedure in the south so this one sided lambasting is wrong. We all know the small island mentality that exists in Cyprus, north and south and taking DTs word on what happened and the emotive language used by others as well is up for questioning as well yet you choose to believe that but not these...WHY!!

I did not see any spelling mistake on the title.
The word "Illegal" is spelled correctly and it is repeated on the first paragraph , on the second one and so on.
Secondly in Cyprus there is only a Cyprus Court of Justice with many departments but there is not a Greek Cypriot Court nor an Armenian Cypriot Court nor a Maronite Cypriot Court nor a Latin Cypriot Court nor a Turkish Cypriot Court .There isn't even a Klingon Cypriot Court either.
The word Cypriot is spelled correctly so is the word Court.
My objections are for using an unreliable source of information.
I repeat that the Cyprus police force are not saints and it is well known that beatings have taken place occasionally but most of them have been exposed by reliable sources of information and consequently dealt with.